Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?
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Ikid:
[/quote]The reporter brought up one very good point on the award of scholarships.http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/key-players-in-jobs-arena-must-change-mindset-too
[quote]Many of the complaints that followed were from parents who feel that, with the new PSLE scoring system, the advantage their academically bright children have over their peers will be eroded.
Another parent, a father of two, picked on the fact that top government scholarships are all given out to students with top academic scores.
\"If all these other talents count, then why is there no Public Service Commission (PSC) or President's scholarship for someone who wants to pursue the fine arts or film-making or wants to become an Olympic athlete?\" he asked.
Another issue related to scholarships. Every year our top schs will offer scholarships to foreigners who are academic toppers in their countries. As well as being academically bright, these students are also very hardworking.
When they come over, can we give them orientation and tell them nowadays govt not emphasizing on academics. So please don't be so hardworking and beat our local students into pulps academically, since local students are told grades not so impt anymore. :nailbite: -
iRabbit:
The reporter brought up one very good point on the award of scholarships.Ikid:
http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/key-players-in-jobs-arena-must-change-mindset-too
[quote]Many of the complaints that followed were from parents who feel that, with the new PSLE scoring system, the advantage their academically bright children have over their peers will be eroded.
Another parent, a father of two, picked on the fact that top government scholarships are all given out to students with top academic scores.
\"If all these other talents count, then why is there no Public Service Commission (PSC) or President's scholarship for someone who wants to pursue the fine arts or film-making or wants to become an Olympic athlete?\" he asked.
Another issue related to scholarships. Every year our top schs will offer scholarships to foreigners who are academic toppers in their countries. As well as being academically bright, these students are also very hardworking.
When they come over, can we give them orientation and tell them nowadays govt not emphasizing on academics. So please don't be so hardworking and beat our local students into pulps academically (since local students were told grades not so impt anymore). :nailbite:[/quote]Parent perception is wrong. PSC has been offering scholarships in fine arts, music and even physical education all these while. The parent is however right to say that no president scholars did these subjects. -
iRabbit:
The reporter brought up one very good point on the award of scholarships.Ikid:
http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/key-players-in-jobs-arena-must-change-mindset-too
[quote]Many of the complaints that followed were from parents who feel that, with the new PSLE scoring system, the advantage their academically bright children have over their peers will be eroded.
Another parent, a father of two, picked on the fact that top government scholarships are all given out to students with top academic scores.
\"If all these other talents count, then why is there no Public Service Commission (PSC) or President's scholarship for someone who wants to pursue the fine arts or film-making or wants to become an Olympic athlete?\" he asked.
Another issue related to scholarships. Every year our top schs will offer scholarships to foreigners who are academic
toppers in their countries. As well as being academically bright, these students are also very hardworking.
When they come over, can we give them orientation and tell them nowadays govt not emphasizing on academics. So please don't be so hardworking and beat our local students into pulps academically, since local students are told grades not so impt anymore. :nailbite:[/quote]Then can the MOE put these overseas scholars into 2nd or 3rd tier Sec schools and leave those places in top schools to Singaporean top academic students instead ?
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With such change, now the gov can truly say we need to employ foreign talents. All our students are above average but we don’t have the shinning stars. Hence, FTs really needed…
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iRabbit:
When I posted that remark, I was thinking of the really really smart children. You know the kind in GEP still can sweep multiple awards during EOY prize presentation, or those who were selected for secondary level national training team while they were still in primary sch.
My sentiments...jetsetter:
[quote=\"iRabbit\"]
So in the name of diversity, we dumb down our brightest while other countries are grooming their best from young. This is what I fear if the bands get too big and we disallow acad DSA in future.
We can't rule that out yet, can we?
Sometimes my son brings back model essays from sch. Seriously, if I didn't know better, I would have thought they were written by adults, not 11 year olds. So good were those works.
One really have to see the works of those children to truly understand why I feel it's a wasted opportunity if those raw diamonds are not sent to the best schools for polishing.[/quote]I certainly hope that the MOE will not device a new scoring system that will drastically affect the top 3% (>260) or even the top 10% (>250) coz they already had the IP set up to groom this group.
The new system shd be such that it is able to identify this band BUT should not rank them too finely, ie, one can have the same 'new points' even if they are 5 T-score points apart.
That being said, a 245 pointer may just get into IP even though he is outside the top 10% based on T-score. -
zoolet:
With such change, now the gov can truly say we need to employ foreign talents. All our students are above average but we don't have the shinning stars. Hence, FTs really needed....
But I get the feeling reading between the lines that the gov is saying that our high pressure, tuition/enrichment/preparation lesson centric system of examinations and top school selection exercises is not producing the type of shining stars that is necessary for the new value creating (as opposed to value adding) economy. -
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pirate:
They've been saying that for decades! Ever since I was in school anyway, and that was in the 70s. All their tinkering with the system hasn't done much to improve things, it seems. My personal opinion is that the \"system\", but setting so many requirements coupled with our population's willingness to adapt to the \"rules of the game\", tends to laud all-rounders. Unfortunately, those who might otherwise be shining stars in niche areas spend so much time on the areas where they are weak that they don't spend enough to shine in their strong areas. It will take official recognition that there isn't a one-size-fits-all \"ideal\" coupled with parents' and students' willingness to accept that tha vast majority can't and shouldn't aim to be top in everything, or even equally good in everything.zoolet:
With such change, now the gov can truly say we need to employ foreign talents. All our students are above average but we don't have the shinning stars. Hence, FTs really needed....
But I get the feeling reading between the lines that the gov is saying that our high pressure, tuition/enrichment/preparation lesson centric system of examinations and top school selection exercises is not producing the type of shining stars that is necessary for the new value creating (as opposed to value adding) economy. -
pirate:
pirate: They need to widen our talent pool. For decades, they haven't quite produced any shining stars thru the old selection system. How many scholars or gifted people are really creating new jobs for our workers? They have either migrated, posted overseas for several years, or are huddled up in an establishment that doesn't allow their giftedness to flourish. How many smarty pants dare step out of their comfort zone to start up a new company?zoolet:
With such change, now the gov can truly say we need to employ foreign talents. All our students are above average but we don't have the shinning stars. Hence, FTs really needed....
But I get the feeling reading between the lines that the gov is saying that our high pressure, tuition/enrichment/preparation lesson centric system of examinations and top school selection exercises is not producing the type of shining stars that is necessary for the new value creating (as opposed to value adding) economy.
They woke up one day after meeting Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Ma and a few other entrepreneurs and discovered for the longest time, they had neglected the 95% majority aka 'Average Guys' who were sieved out early by the 'fine' system, so now, they decide to make amends by giving them a leg-up.
zoolet: FTs will still be required in some sectors. We don't have enough local highly-skilled talent. They have been locked up by the govt who paid for their tuition fees. :siam: -
jetsetter:
True lah but can't blame the educational policies then, just that the government is not willing to release its monopolistic hold on local talents. One of the founders of Coursera, Andrew Ng was educated locally but he is not likely to have come so far had he stayed on in Singapore.
pirate: They need to widen our talent pool. For decades, they haven't quite produced any shining stars thru the old selection system. How many scholars or gifted people are really creating new jobs for our workers? They have either migrated, posted overseas for several years, or are huddled up in an establishment that doesn't allow their giftedness to flourish. How many smarty pants dare step out of their comfort zone to start up a new company?pirate:
But I get the feeling reading between the lines that the gov is saying that our high pressure, tuition/enrichment/preparation lesson centric system of examinations and top school selection exercises is not producing the type of shining stars that is necessary for the new value creating (as opposed to value adding) economy.
They woke up one day after meeting Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Ma and a few other entrepreneurs and discovered for the longest time, they had neglected the 95% majority aka 'Average Guys' who were sieved out early by the 'fine' system, so now, they decide to make amends by giving them a leg-up.
zoolet: FTs will still be required in some sectors. We don't have enough local highly-skilled talent. They have been locked up by the govt who paid for their tuition fees. :siam:
By the way, Mark Zuckberg is not 95% of the majority, he studied at Harvard and has an excellent academic track record.
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