Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?

[rains]

25HMOM:

From my point of view as a parent, the new psle 8-grades system will bring more stress and competition than the current one. I am contented with my dc getting an A and aimed for 75-85 marks previously. With the new system, I will have to push him to get at least 85 marks for a more decent grade of 1 or 2.

Morever, it sounds like O level L1R5 score to JC since to qualify for express stream the range is 4-20 pts.
I don't see the new system is of any help to release the stress of kids and parents. Can someone enlighten me please?

Haha, don't mind me but to me, hoping to get an A to get 75-85 is like 自己骗自己. 75 raw score gives you a very different T-score compared to getting 85 as a raw score. But seeing 'A' gives you the comfort of 'for all you know, he's at the 85-mark range'. The new system tells you exactly where he stands and that could be potentially frightening as instead of A (a highly acceptable grade), we now see '3' or '4' (look and sound mediocre) when actually they are essentially the same thing.

On one hand, I think it's stressful bcos now there are specific, narrow ranges of marks to aim for, after we are used to the up-in-the-air and non-transparent grades for the T-score system; on the other, if you see it positively, your child can now truly works on his weak areas to better his own scores rather than worrying if the unknown cohort's average is going to be lower, much lower, higher or much higher than his own scores.

[jetsetter]

Read that:


* We will also provide simulated cut-off points for secondary schools based on the previous year’s S1 Posting exercise. However, the actual cut-off points may differ, depending on how students perform in the actual year.



http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/10-things-know-about-changes-psle-scoring-system

I wonder how the 2021 COP table is going to look like. How can they assure parents and students that they have accurately transformed the 2020 'T-score' COPs for the 2021 cohort to make informed and wise decisions in s1 posting exercise?

[jetsetter]

Some funny thoughts by a blogger


http://redwiretimes.com/cow-beh-cow-bu/new-psle-grading-from-simply-stress-to-stress-plus-heng-suay/

[phtthp]

jetsetter:

25HMOM:

From my point of view as a parent, the new psle 8-grades system will bring more stress and competition than the current one. I am contented with my dc getting an A and aimed for 75-85 marks previously. With the new system, I will have to push him to get at least 85 marks for a more decent grade of 1 or 2.

Morever, it sounds like O level L1R5 score to JC since to qualify for express stream the range is 4-20 pts.

I don't see the new system is of any help to release the stress of kids and parents. Can someone enlighten me please?

Haha...It sounds like, huh? Sounds like 4-pointer (PSLE) = 6-pointer (L1R5), but it isn't quite so imo.

A1 in O levels = 75~100%, a much wider band so there's a bit of room for errors, for not-so-'tok kong' compo or not-so-perfect oral for the potato kids...But for new PSLE, both your 2 languages must be darn good to score above 90% to earn that perfect 1 point.

No bell curve, no nat'l moderation anymore, cos now you are awarded the AL grade based on your cold hard raw scores.

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Note

Scoring Band 1 now, per subject : can mean that your child get AL2, not AL1


current system (T-score) :
many parents are happy, if the kids able to scrape through Band 1 (85 and above)

But, with the new Psle Banding system (from 2021) : increase the anxiety of parents, because score 85, is not good enough anymore


Example #1
(This scenario)

Say, if a student from (P3 to P6 PSLE) primary :
consistently score Band 1 (85 to 89 range) for 4 subjects (English, Maths, Science, Mother tongue), it means that his / her PSLE score is

AL2 X 4 subjects => PSLE score is, 8 points.


With 8 points (Band 1 score, from 85 to 89 range) -
unlikely to enter Top Tier IP schools like RI / RGS / HCI / NYGH, as usually these 4 Secondary schools likely to take in only 4 pointers.


Example #2
If score Band 2 (80 to 84 range), for 4 subjects -
End up PSLE score become, AL3 X 4 => 12 points

[Veyron]

Based on the new banding system what will be the T-score equivalent for 4-pointers?

Below is the list of top secondary school, I presume these will all be 4 pointers?


Nanyang Girls’ High School IP SAP (girls) – 262
Raffles Girls’ School (Secondary) IP (girls) – 258
Hwa Chong Institution IP SAP (boys) – 256
Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) IB (girls) – 256
Raffles Institution IP (boys) – 256
National Junior College IP (co-ed) – 254
CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls’ School IP SAP (girls) – 253
Dunman High School IP SAP (co-ed) – 253
Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) IB (boys) – 252
Cedar Girls’ Secondary School IP (girls) – 252
Singapore Chinese Girls’ School IP (girls) – 250
Catholic High School IP SAP (boys) – 249
River Valley High School IP SAP (co-ed) – 249
Temasek Junior College IP (co-ed) – 249
Victoria School IP (boys) – 249
St. Joseph’s Institution IB (boys) – 248
Cedar Girls’ Secondary School O-levels (girls) – 248
Singapore Chinese Girls’ School O-levels (girls) – 248
Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) O-levels (boys) – 247
Methodist Girls’ School (Secondary) O-levels (girls) – 247

[Zappy]

SpartanMum:

The anxiety, confusion and I daresay, even fear is palpable.


4A1 is similar to 4Astar. How many 4Astars are there in each cohort? I believe that it won't be that many. So competition for top schools in the 4 points category may be less intense than 5 or 6 points which I think will be the most intense when it comes to the top schools. This is where the non-citizens will really bear the full brunt...sad but true.

\"MOE explained that the upper ranges are narrower as majority of pupils do well for PSLE. On average, about half the cohort will score AL4 or better. Finer bands at the top will help to differentiate students at these levels... \"

Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/e ... e-says-moe

So, if half the students are scoring this AL4, I don't think that competition for the 4 points category may necessarily be less intense.

[Mr.025413Clumsy]

I like how many people out there have assumed that just because of the lower scores for AL1, that there’ll be hundreds of 4s fighting for the top Sec Schools.


I think it’s going to be quite the opposite. Expect many students in the 10-25 range with just a handful in the sub-10 range, and even less in the sub-5 range.

[ammonite]

Technospaz:

I like how many people out there have assumed that just because of the lower scores for AL1, that there'll be hundreds of 4s fighting for the top Sec Schools.


I think it's going to be quite the opposite. Expect many students in the 10-25 range with just a handful in the sub-10 range, and even less in the sub-5 range.

Exactly, I share your thoughts.

At the end of the day, all this \"angst\" just boils down to the desire for kids to go to select schools.

[phtthp]

Technospaz:

I like how many people out there have assumed that just because of the lower scores for AL1, that there'll be hundreds of 4s fighting for the top Sec Schools.


I think it's going to be quite the opposite. Expect many students in the 10-25 range with just a handful in the sub-10 range, and even less in the sub-5 range.

If we refer to the level mean / cohort ,mean, reported in our report card for (P3 to P6) SA1 /SA2 exam results, many students' per subject score for English, Maths, Science, tend to fall into Band 2 (ie. 80 to 84 range)

This is very common
In other words, students achieving AL3 : Is common
AL3 X 4 = 12 points

Thus, 12 points achieved, can be common


For GEP schools, the level mean may be higher, falling into sometimes low Band 1 range (ie. 85 to 89 range). Students from here, it is common to see them achieving AL2

A number may also achieve AL1, particularly for subjects like Maths and Science.
Languages : harder to score AL1, esp for Chinese

[Veyron]

Technospaz:

I like how many people out there have assumed that just because of the lower scores for AL1, that there'll be hundreds of 4s fighting for the top Sec Schools.


I think it's going to be quite the opposite. Expect many students in the 10-25 range with just a handful in the sub-10 range, and even less in the sub-5 range.

If you can find out the equivalent of T-score for 4-pointers, you will be able to guess what will be the pool size of 4 pointers.