Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?

[phtthp]

lee_yl:

pirate:

Don't waste time and money sending for tuition to get all the extra points above 90 that don't count.

You think you shooting arrow ah, so accurate? Can make sure all the 4 subjects score exactly 90 and not one point less?

Under AL :
Who are these 4-pointers ?

Those equivalent to say, T-score 270 ?

[lee_yl]

jnemummy:

\" No matter the system, there will still be parents who stress their kids. If so, then it really is parental accountability.\"
http://petunialee.blogspot.sg/2016/07/n ... m.html?m=1

If there's only 1 or 2 parents who are highly stressed, then it is an individual parental issue. However, if the majority of the nation's school going children's parents feel stressed about the PSLE and its aftermath, then it is a systemic issue.

I remember some of Petunia's posts about her son struggling in primary school (esp with Chinese). Now that her children has exited the primary school system, she can afford a loftier tone in her blog.

[pirate]

lee_yl:

If there's only 1 or 2 parents who are highly stressed, then it is an individual parental issue. However, if the majority of the nation's school going children's parents feel stressed about the PSLE and its aftermath, then it is a systemic issue.

I don't think they feel stressed about PSLE and its aftermath. I think they feel stressed about their children's future life in Singapore as a whole. This one takes much more than making changes to PSLE or secondary school admission.

This is not an examination issue. This is an existential issue.

[lee_yl]

phtthp:

lee_yl:

[quote=\"pirate\"]
Don't waste time and money sending for tuition to get all the extra points above 90 that don't count.

You think you shooting arrow ah, so accurate? Can make sure all the 4 subjects score exactly 90 and not one point less?

Under AL :
Who are these 4-pointers ?

Those equivalent to say, T-score 270 ?[/quote]Difficult to estimate as the t-score is a normalized statistic and is only relevant to the specific cohort. So, regardless the difficulty level of the PSLE exams, a t-score of 270 (and above) is likely restricted to the top 1% of the cohort. However under the AL banding, there could be many many 4 pointers if all the PSLE papers are easy that year.

At this juncture, many details are still lacking. For example, the cut-off for IP. Assume that top 10% of the cohort falls into the group of 6 pointers, does that mean that ALL 6pointers qualify for IP or will there be a dividing line within this group such that those who fall below the dividing line are not eligible for IP?

[lee_yl]

pirate:

lee_yl:

If there's only 1 or 2 parents who are highly stressed, then it is an individual parental issue. However, if the majority of the nation's school going children's parents feel stressed about the PSLE and its aftermath, then it is a systemic issue.

I don't think they feel stressed about PSLE and its aftermath. I think they feel stressed about their children's future life in Singapore as a whole. This one takes much more than making changes to PSLE or secondary school admission.

This is not an examination issue. This is an existential issue.

For most parents, the equation is simple.
Good examination result = good schools = good future.

[grimm]

Instead of just contributing on this thread, as some feel rather strongly about the new system, you might want to write to MOE on this (See link below)? I suspect that they will refine the scheme further between now and 2021.


https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/Share%20Your%20Thoughts/share-your-thoughts.html

I am happy enough with the new scheme at the moment and have always believed that my wife and I are responsible for my son's stress so I probably won't bother (unless MOE mucks around the affiliation )

[ChiefKiasu]

lee_yl:

That doesn't quite matter. What I know is that every new minister will try to leave his mark and he won't gain much credit by implementing his predecessor's policies. So we have \"Every school is a good school\", \"AL banding\" and .....

The new motto is now... \"Every Subject must be a Good Subject\"... :evil:

My disappointment with the new scheme is how it comes across as a knee-jerk, half-hearted approach to addressing parents' and students' stress. Just because someone high up says that parental stress is caused by the very fine-grain measurement of students' achievements, MOE has to respond by making it more coarse, which, ostensibly, would reduce parental stress. It is too little, it addresses the symptoms and not the root causes, and it introduces new uncertainties which lead to new kinds of stress.

[janet88]

MOE has not done anything to improve the stress of parents but worsened it.


it has only changed the grading system but has not looked into the contents of the curriculum.

[mum_sugoku]

floppy:

lee_yl:

Horror of all horrors, what if after the next GE, there's a new Minister of Education who has other idea and decides to suspend the PSLE reforms before X takes her PSLE?

You think these are the ideas of the Minister?

:rotflmao:

I share the same suspicion as you :evil: . (Reminds me of that \"Emperor's new clothes\" story.. :siam: )

[mum_sugoku]

lee_yl:

pirate:

[quote=\"lee_yl\"]If there's only 1 or 2 parents who are highly stressed, then it is an individual parental issue. However, if the majority of the nation's school going children's parents feel stressed about the PSLE and its aftermath, then it is a systemic issue.

I don't think they feel stressed about PSLE and its aftermath. I think they feel stressed about their children's future life in Singapore as a whole. This one takes much more than making changes to PSLE or secondary school admission.

This is not an examination issue. This is an existential issue.

For most parents, the equation is simple.
Good examination result = good schools = good future.[/quote]Ya - this pretty much sums up the root cause of the stress experienced by our parents (who in turn, pass the stress to their children).

And such exam-induced stress is not unique to Singapore; it's also prevalent elsewhere in the world, particularly asian countries like Japan, Korea, and especially, China: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36457453
[quote]More than nine million high school graduates are sitting China's national exams, the Gaokao.

Their result will determine which university they can attend, and therefore much of the rest of their future, so they are under huge pressure... [/quote]Unless there's a change in mindset (that good score = good school = good future), I think there's really nothing much one can do to alleviate such kind of stress.. Unless, of course, we abolish PSLE completely, since, as repeatedly asserted by our government, all school are good school and so, no need to choose..