Any Updates As To When PSLE T-Scores Will Be Scrapped?
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Missty:
Parents have 1, 2 or maybe 3 (few have 4 or 5) kids. Compared to teacher who has 30-40 kids. Who would be able to detect if a child needs help? and who should be better placed?
From what I observe, currently many parents tend to take the responsibility of their children's primary school education in their own hands. Because parents have the most at stake. But why does it have to be so? Surely the lion's share of the responsibility should be with the school and teachers. It is the teachers whose KPI should be tied to their overall class performance, or teachers who need to take ownership of their class' performance at year end exams at P1 to P5 level.
If a student is weak in a particular subject, then I feel it should be the teacher's call to advise the parents if a little extra help, in the form of tuition/ remedial lessons, will help; instead of parents deciding unilaterally to enroll their DC in tuition.
I have heard of friends castigating teachers who ask parents to enroll kids for tuition after a couple of tingxie. On the other end, I have seen teachers repeatedly telling disbelieving parents their kids don't need tuition (but parents still send).
I think after primary school, I should also be more laidback - but it's probably because kids are more independent and want to exercise own will when they are in sec school. -
cherryc:
Haha...maybe it's purposely timed this way?X is only p1 now so you can Ask her to go for tuition for eng and Chin ( double tuition if necessary ) and she will get 4 point in 2021.....
That's why the change is set 6 years later, don't say moe doesn't warn you and give you enough time to strategise/prepare to attain the elusive 4 points....so don't cry in 2021 if you don't do anything now !
MOE knows the P1 parents are still blur blur and the K2 parents are still worrying about the ongoing registration (looking at the disproportionate no. of posts by them in this Forum versus those whose kids are unaffected under the old system!) ! :rotflmao: -
Aren't there a lot of schemes and programmes for under-privileged families? :scratchhead:
I heard from my teacher friends they are working very hard to help weaker students from disadvantaged families. Remedials, counselling, etc. That the schools/ministry don't publicise teachers' hard work and intervention doesn't mean the teachers/P didn't do anything.[/quote][/quote]
From what I know, MOE has done a great deal for the under-privileged families. The children who qualified for financial assistance will receive free uniforms, textbooks and school shoes every year, computer, coupons for food and drinks during recess and some need not pay for the school immersion trip. They also can apply for subsidised tuition. -
Sorryโฆcanโt seem to apply the "quote" properly
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jetsetter:
parents of K2s are worried over p1 registration...while parents of p1s are blur as in what is happening and the difference between the existing 123 vs the abc grading. parents with kids (like many of us) unaffected would be more aware of the higher stress level of the AL grading.
Haha...maybe it's purposely timed this way?
MOE knows the P1 parents are still blur blur and the K2 parents are still worrying about the ongoing registration (looking at the disproportionate no. of posts by them in this Forum versus those whose kids are unaffected under the old system!) ! :rotflmao:
so far the new acting minister has not mentioned or given a detailed interview after telling the media about the 2021 implementation. by the time it takes effect, it will probably be a new education minister. -
janet88:
parents of K2s are worried over p1 registration...while parents of p1s are blur as in what is happening and the difference between the existing 123 vs the abc grading. parents with kids (like many of us) unaffected would be more aware of the higher stress level of the AL grading.jetsetter:
Haha...maybe it's purposely timed this way?
MOE knows the P1 parents are still blur blur and the K2 parents are still worrying about the ongoing registration (looking at the disproportionate no. of posts by them in this Forum versus those whose kids are unaffected under the old system!) ! :rotflmao:
so far the new acting minister has not mentioned or given a detailed interview after telling the media about the 2021 implementation. by the time it takes effect, it will probably be a new education minister.
Oh, because he knows most of you in this thread are all unaffected. Just making noises.
No wonder he went to queue for Tai Hwa bak chor mee like nothing's happened
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From Petunia Lee's blog which she has since changed her privacy settings:
[quote]MOE does care about developing a future workforce. This workforce is needed to see Singapore into future economic prosperity. Increasingly, the government realises that our workforce lacks a diversity of talent, has precious little EQ and lacks a robust moral grounding. It has realised such a workforce, whilst highly competent in numeracy and literacy was not a strong workforce because of a paucity of non-academic skills and values. All that focus on beating the bell curve left our students little time to grow in other areas - kindness, gentleness, charity... etc...
So yes, there are surely parents who are stressed by the random ballot because what if their 4 pointers cannot get into RI? It would be so awful to be shunted by random chance to HCI or SJI or ACS(I).
That sort of stress is irrelevant to the higher purpose of the MOE. The MOE does not exist to reduce parent stress. It exists as the country's Human Resource Development Department and it wants top talent distributed across the top 10 schools so that these schools with different ethos and different foci will groom top talent to be diverse.
We need that. This country needs that.[/quote]She's probably right. Not just on the distribution of top talent to more top schools, but also on the future workforce and HRD part which is under the purview of the other MOE wing (Ag Ed Minister Ong Ye Kung). https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/speeches/speech-by-mr-ong-ye-kung--acting-minister-for-education-higher-education-and-skills-at-the-ite-graduation-ceremony-2016 reminded graduands that our system is not designed with dead ends:
[quote]\"What does all this mean to you, now that you are graduating from ITE? Our system is not designed with dead ends. Far from it, it is designed as forks with multiple branches and alternate pathways for you to choose from.
So some of you may be pursuing a diploma at the polytechnics, some of you may embark on a SkillsFuture Earn and Learn Programme, some will be undergoing National Service, while others may be looking for a job, and along the way, take up short modular courses to improve yourself. Whatever it is, once you discover your area of interest, your learning never stops โ if you want to become really good at what you do.
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Today, I urge you to choose a more difficult but more real definition of success โ success as making a meaningful difference in this world, through perfecting your own craft.\"[/quote]Like many of you, I was concerned about the unexplained broader lower bands in the new scoring system. But after reading his speech, I suspect the powers that be want to sieve out more students who are not academically ready or wired to join the O level/IP track at age 12 and encourage them to consider alternative pathways which may take longer to reach Rome.
Fact is we may not have that many graduate jobs to go around to feed every graduate. In KBW's candid words (OSC 2013), \"What is more important is that they get good jobs after leaving school\" and \"If they cannot find jobs, what is the point? You own a degree, but so what? That you can't eat it. If that cannot give you a good life, a good job, it is meaningless.\"
KBW as a national policy maker was responding to a participant who said the G should set aside more university places for ITE and poly grads. \"Can you have a whole country where 100 per cent are graduates? I am not so sure. What you do not want is to create huge graduate unemployment.\" added the minister. I'm sure no KSPs with \"uni-bound\" kids, incl this minister's own, would want that to happen to their DC, i.e. under-employed or unemployed.
Second fact I mentioned in the GE2015 thread is that under tremendous pressure from xenophobes and displaced Singaporean workers, the G had tightened the FT quotas in selected sectors such as F&B, retail, hospitality, consumer business, ICT, healthcare since 2011, resulting in the need to plug those gaping holes urgently. They've tried to entice more Nitec grads to take up apprenticeships, internships, mgmt associate prog with companies in affected sectors, and under certain schemes, Nitec grads could upgrade by taking up part-time diploma course in our local polys, and in the event that they develop higher capabilities later in life, they may then progress upwards and pursue a degree course.
Yes, the broader lower bands at AL 6, 7 and 8 may seem cruel and unfair to us. But someone else has to fill that big layer aka 'SG Core' at any one point in time, given that many FTs are gone. Regrettably, that someone has to be one who requires a longer pathway than your own DC, until such time this someone has acquired the skills and experience to take over your DC's rice bowl. -
jetsetter:
Can summarize in 140 characters?From Petunia Lee's blog which she has since changed her privacy settings:
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floppy:
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Can summarize in 140 characters?jetsetter:
From Petunia Lee's blog which she has since changed her privacy settings:
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RE: mysteriously BIG lower bands...
Our workforce needs talents with diverse skills, so don't need question MOE on the AL6-8 big bands that seem to 'penalise' the borderline group aka late bloomers, because someone must help to fill the job gaps created by outgoing FT.
Moral of the story: Tare care of ourselves first, sign up for more tuition and make sure your DC (2021 onwards) hit above 20 points !
Have you registered a place for your DD yet? You're affected, aren't you? -
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