* Eunoia JC (EJC)

[woodgrove]

yes.

[thsheng99]

mindays:

I am very sure that RJC's COP was not the top during my time. In fact, Chinese High was first. RJ and NJ alongside with VJ were among the next few choices.

Nobody is claiming that RJC was top. Why do you always like to keep comparing JCs ? Can you don't bring in your competitive streak into here ?

[stetan]

woodgrove:

yes.

But you can only have a personal experience with the college you graduate from......how can you have personal experiences with the other colleges ?

[jetsetter]

woodgrove:

i think it could be different periods.There was also a time when Hwa Chong L1R4 science was 7/8 while RJC was around 10.

:goodpost:

I'm so giddy reading the above posts! :faint: How did this become a thread down memory lane?

Not just different periods. There could be different affiliation/CL1/CCA bonus points deducted from your relatives' original aggregate. Besides, different faculties had different cut-offs like Arts being the one with the highest cut-off, so which COP were you guys talking about? Finally, note that the 'First 3 months' prelims cut-offs were also higher than actual O level cut-offs.

Some of you could be remembering lower cut-offs than the actual ones because you and your friends sauntered in with brilliant grades so that erroneous low COP was etched in your memory For example, my gf's sister got into VJC in 1987 with 5 points, but that wasn't VJC's COP for Science obviously. My BIL got into NJC in the early 80s also with 5 points, but that wasn't NJC's COP either.

Recap: L1R4 was any batch before Year 1989.

FanFanX was right that those around 50-55 years of age today will remember that NJC, HCJC and TJC were arguably the 3 titans dominating the A level scene. All the govt scholars hailed from these 3 at first. That they registered lower COPs than newer JCs like RJC and VJC in the early 80s was irrefutable.

RJC didn't have such a low COP in the beginning. Granted, it was low in the mid-80s (single digit), but not as low as today. Probably from 9/10 dropped to around 7/8 in 1986-87, which was Chan Chun Sing, Ong Ye Kung and Tan Chuan Jin's era? Minister Chan Chun Sing himself remarked in a Ch 8 TV interview, \"我有话说“ last year that RJC's COP was \"already very low\" during his time and he almost couldn't make it with his dismal O level grades.

The upswing for RJC was 1988 (minday's era). In Nov 1983, the top 10% of PSLE kids sat for the GEP selection test to join MOE's pilot SBGE programme in RI and RGS (i.e. Sec 1 in 1984). Not many but 100 of them. The 100 would later auto-join RJC after they cleared their O levels in 1987. They subsequently brought down RJC's COP to 5/6 for Science.

@stetan: Therefore, assuming you were from Dennis' batch that you told me, you'd require 5/6 points to make it to RJC Science in 1988/99. You didn't remember wrongly at all They probably thought you were talking about RJC's pioneer years of 1982-1985, cos initially you and someone else were comparing the MAIDEN COPs for new junior colleges like EJC.

After GEP was introduced, well, need I say more...RJC continued to rise up the ranks as they by default received all the GEPpers from RI and RGS. RJC welcomed its first batch of pri 3~sec 4 GEPpers (selected back in Oct 1983) in 1991. So they got stronger even after L1R5 was introduced. It became stable at 6 points for Science during the 90s, but many who qualified weren't actually 6-pointers but 4- or 2-pointers due to the bonus points awarded.

Occasionally, RJC would take in 10-15 pointers who appealed thru rugby/hockey/softball/track & field/swimming CCA. Those were all on case by case basis.

[jetsetter]

thsheng99:

Actually 9 point is very good for a first year. If I recall, when VJC first started, the COP for the first year was 10.....


Apparently, according to my friend's DD, the JAE students in her OG was from SJI, St Marg, Crescent Girls , ACSI, CHS, St Nics, SCGS, NanHua and even from HCI !

Apparently, these are students from HCI \"O\" level class...some of them actually did well to return to HCI/JC but chose not to go back...Seems like quite a sizable group from Crescent and SJI...

Suprisingly, there are also quite a number of students from Commonwealth secondary...Looking at the school cop for 2014 is 238 to 249 so it is definitely one of the top few neighbourhood schools around

And it seem that there was a long queue outside the general office - apparently for appeals....

ACSI? SJI too? You mean they ditched the IB programme to join A levels? Or do you mean ACS Barker Express?

HCI has O level track?

Why didn't you look at Commonwealth Sec's 2012 T-scores instead of 2014? There was a bumper crop of 270-280s in year 2012, therefore to me 238-250 scorers were...ok lah..so so lah... But good news! they did well to score 9 points!

Looks like many came from the West...St Marg, Crescent, NanHua, ACS, HCI...plus the predictable lot from the 3 feeder schools :rahrah:

Glad to hear JAEs and existing IP students are grouped together, not segregated. Hope there's great synergy when they join hands to do their PW.

[Careermum]

jetsetter:

thsheng99:

Actually 9 point is very good for a first year. If I recall, when VJC first started, the COP for the first year was 10.....


Apparently, according to my friend's DD, the JAE students in her OG was from SJI, St Marg, Crescent Girls , ACSI, CHS, St Nics, SCGS, NanHua and even from HCI !

Apparently, these are students from HCI \"O\" level class...some of them actually did well to return to HCI/JC but chose not to go back...Seems like quite a sizable group from Crescent and SJI...

Suprisingly, there are also quite a number of students from Commonwealth secondary...Looking at the school cop for 2014 is 238 to 249 so it is definitely one of the top few neighbourhood schools around

And it seem that there was a long queue outside the general office - apparently for appeals....

ACSI? SJI too? You mean they ditched the IB programme to join A levels? Or do you mean ACS Barker Express?

HCI has O level track?

Why didn't you look at Commonwealth Sec's 2012 T-scores instead of 2014? There was a bumper crop of 270-280s in year 2012, therefore to me 238-250 scorers were...ok lah..so so lah... But good news! they did well to score 9 points!

Looks like many came from the West...St Marg, Crescent, NanHua, ACS, HCI...plus the predictable lot from the 3 feeder schools :rahrah:

Glad to hear JAEs and existing IP students are grouped together, not segregated. Hope there's great synergy when they join hands to do their PW.

ACSI & SJI are dual track; their O level students have a choice after O levels.

Commonwealth SS:
why one of you look at 2012, whereas another look at 2014. Shouldn't it be 2013?
(2013 to 2016 they are in Sec School, 2017 then they are in JC 1 . . . mah . . . .)
So should be 238 - 251

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[jetsetter]

I see...Was looking at the year they took their PSLE which was 2012. The t-scores were attained in 2012, but they joined Sec 1 in 2013


They took O levels in 2016 mah ...keke.

[Careermum]

jetsetter:

I see...Was looking at the year they took their PSLE which was 2012. The t-scores were attained in 2012, but they joined Sec 1 in 2013


They took O levels in 2016 mah ...keke.

So you have to click 2013 at the moe website, not 2012.
Then it will show 2012 psle batch which was posted to 2013 sec 1. (see the picture I post)

[Careermum]

duplicate

[Careermum]

jetsetter:

HCI has O level track?

Yes, google \"Ö level track of shame\".
Talks about RJC mainly, but also mentioned HCI has O level class.