Pei Chun Public
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From this year onwards, the school is longer going to participate in ICAS as this is not inline with our MOE syllabus, out of scope competition papers that is just adding unnecessary stress and no benefit to DSA as secondary schools DO NOT consider ICAS results even if it is a distinction or high distinction. ICAS is now scrapped.
I did not hear anything about Olympiad. Is MO scrapped too? -
Dear love1001
Math Olympiad still continue. School also participate RIPWMC. -
Eunice Tee:
Thank you Eunice. Do you have any idea when are classes commencing? I do not remember seeing it in the PN.Dear love1001
Math Olympiad still continue. School also participate RIPWMC. -
love1001:
Besides Pei chun primary, a few other primary schools had also scrapped ICAS, a few years ago. Last time, these schools used to conduct ICAS tests for many students fromFrom this year onwards, the school is longer going to participate in ICAS as this is not inline with our MOE syllabus, out of scope competition papers that is just adding unnecessary stress and no benefit to DSA as secondary schools DO NOT consider ICAS results even if it is a distinction or high distinction. ICAS is now scrapped.
(P2 to P6) within their school compound, on certain dates for English, Maths, Science in April / July / August. But now no more, had since been scrappped.
Principal of some Secondary schools said that they won't look at ICAS results, even when students tried to DSA into the Secondary schools, & submitted their ICAS results.
So, no need to sit for ICAS, anymore, since no more benefit in ICAS.
Also, there are changes to DSA requirement.
After new AL PSLE scheme kick off in 2021, not sure what new changes they going to make to DSA, by academic route, because the New AL psle system is able to reflect how good / or how bad every student perform, in each of the 4 core subjects.
But, DSA by talent like Sports, Arts, etc, will still remain. -
Dear love1001,
P4 math Olympiad will start at 28 Feb. P3 shd b same too. -
phtthp:
To score well in ICAS, parents can purchase past year papers from UNSW website. Get the child to expose to the type of questions that are tested as they are very different from usual school papers.
Besides Pei chun primary, a few other primary schools had also scrapped ICAS, a few years ago. Last time, these schools used to conduct ICAS tests for many students fromlove1001:
From this year onwards, the school is longer going to participate in ICAS as this is not inline with our MOE syllabus, out of scope competition papers that is just adding unnecessary stress and no benefit to DSA as secondary schools DO NOT consider ICAS results even if it is a distinction or high distinction. ICAS is now scrapped.
(P2 to P6) within their school compound, on certain dates for English, Maths, Science in April / July / August. But now no more, had since been scrappped.
Principal of some Secondary schools said that they won't look at ICAS results, even when students tried to DSA into the Secondary schools, & submitted their ICAS results.
So, no need to sit for ICAS, anymore, since no more benefit in ICAS.
Also, there are changes to DSA requirement.
After new AL PSLE scheme kick off in 2021, not sure what new changes they going to make to DSA, by academic route, because the New AL psle system is able to reflect how good / or how bad every student perform, in each of the 4 core subjects.
But, DSA by talent like Sports, Arts, etc, will still remain.
This is one easy way to get distinction as almost the same type of questions are tested every year. -
Hi Parents, following the remover of AS, the next biggest change is the remover of P4 streaming and class allocation. Starting this year, P4 will be randomly allocated to their P5 classes which are all mix ability. There will be no more top classes. As a known fact, current system benefits the top 80 only because the best teachers are teaching these 2 classes. The new system will benefit the remaining 280 in general. DD1 will be the first batch to go through this change. I hope this is something positive. Speaking to a few parents, some feel there is a need to keep 2 top classes to stretch the potential of these HA students. Otherwise they will be bored by the slower pace of learning. What is your take?
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love1001:
Not to worryHi Parents, following the remover of AS, the next biggest change is the remover of P4 streaming and class allocation. Starting this year, P4 will be randomly allocated to their P5 classes which are all mix ability.
There will be no more top classes. As a known fact, current system benefits the top 80 only because the best teachers are teaching these 2 classes. The new system will benefit the remaining 280 in general. DD1 will be the first batch to go through this change. I hope this is something positive. Speaking to a few parents, some feel there is a need to keep 2 top classes to stretch the potential of these HA students. Otherwise they will be bored by the slower pace of learning. What is your take?
A lot of schools are moving away from the \"Top few classes\" concept, moving into \"All Mixed Ability\" (MA) classes concept. This is the new trend happening, in schools.
Under the new concept :-
even though all P5 classes going to become MA classes, subject Banding will still take Place.
That means :-
for certain subjects like Maths & Chinese, when school bell ring for lessons, students from the same P5 MA class will go to different groups assigned, based on their results at end of P4 SA2. Some students will go to High Ability Maths / Chinese group assigned, while other students (from within the same MA class) will go to another average-paced group, instead. In other words, when school bell ring for lessons, there will be movement around, going to different group assigned, from students within the same P5 MA class.
These 2 subjects (Maths & Chinese) : are often singled out for Banding, because P5 (Maths & Chinese) are very tough, due to depth of content taught, hence got to manage the different students' learning capability, or competency level.
For subject English -
No movement nor grouping around, because there is no High Ability classes, for English subject. So, students remain inside the same P5 MA class, when school bell ring for English lessons.
However, students who are weak in English, will be identified by Tr, to attend extra re-medial lessons, pull them pull up English, to prepare for coming Psle major P6 exam.
But, for subject Science -
Some schools also band Science, based on year-end P4 results, while other schools don't. You have to clarify with Tr : whether Pei Chun primary band P5 Science, or not.
Above is how the new model work, when schools remove / abolish Top few P5 classes, moving towards all Mixed Ability classes.
Based on certain subjects defined by your school, students will still be banded, by subjects, based on their year-end P4 individual subjects' performance.
We have come to end of 2017 P4 Term 1. This week is already week 10, last week of Term 1.
At the next parents meet Tr session, u may clarify with your Form Tr : if above model work for next year 2018 P5 : based on what's happening to many primary schools now, that had already moved away from Top few number of classs concept, into \"All Mixed Ability\" groups concept. -
phtthp:
Subject based banding was not mentioned in the level briefing so I am uncertain if this is what the school is moving towards.
Not to worrylove1001:
Hi Parents, following the remover of AS, the next biggest change is the remover of P4 streaming and class allocation. Starting this year, P4 will be randomly allocated to their P5 classes which are all mix ability.
There will be no more top classes. As a known fact, current system benefits the top 80 only because the best teachers are teaching these 2 classes. The new system will benefit the remaining 280 in general. DD1 will be the first batch to go through this change. I hope this is something positive. Speaking to a few parents, some feel there is a need to keep 2 top classes to stretch the potential of these HA students. Otherwise they will be bored by the slower pace of learning. What is your take?
A lot of schools are moving away from the \"Top few classes\" concept, moving into \"All Mixed Ability\" (MA) classes concept. This is the new trend happening, in schools.
Under the new concept :-
even though all P5 classes going to become MA classes, subject Banding will still take Place.
That means :-
for certain subjects like Maths & Chinese, when school bell ring for lessons, students from the same P5 MA class will go to different groups assigned, based on their results at end of P4 SA2. Some students will go to High Ability Maths / Chinese group assigned, while other students (from within the same MA class) will go to another average-paced group, instead. In other words, when school bell ring for lessons, there will be movement around, going to different group assigned, from students within the same P5 MA class.
These 2 subjects (Maths & Chinese) : are often singled out for Banding, because P5 (Maths & Chinese) are very tough, due to depth of content taught, hence got to manage the different students' learning capability, or competency level.
For subject English -
No movement nor grouping around, because there is no High Ability classes, for English subject. So, students remain inside the same P5 MA class, when school bell ring for English lessons.
However, students who are weak in English, will be identified by Tr, to attend extra re-medial lessons, pull them pull up English, to prepare for coming Psle major P6 exam.
But, for subject Science -
Some schools also band Science, based on year-end P4 results, while other schools don't. You have to clarify with Tr : whether Pei Chun primary band P5 Science, or not.
Above is how the new model work, when schools remove / abolish Top few P5 classes, moving towards all Mixed Ability classes.
Based on certain subjects defined by your school, students will still be banded, by subjects, based on their year-end P4 individual subjects' performance.
We have come to end of 2017 P4 Term 1. This week is already week 10, last week of Term 1.
At the next parents meet Tr session, u may clarify with your Form Tr : if above model work for next year 2018 P5 : based on what's happening to many primary schools now, that had already moved away from Top few number of classs concept, into \"All Mixed Ability\" groups concept.
For subject based banding, will it become a case where you see the same faces in the different subjects classes? Most HA students are good in all subjects and maybe only a handful are good in Math and Science, weaker in languages for example. This means when student A goes to the best class for Math, she sees almost same classmates as when she moves to best class for HCL. Then might as well put the best students together and save the time and effort in moving around and changing classes.
In all policies, it will benefit some and put others at a disadvantage. For my DD1, I think this change is good for her as she is not so academically inclined and if base on current system, she will be in an average D to F class. It is very embarrassing to step into a \"lousy class\" according to my girls.
For DD1, I prefer she interacts with the better students and motivates her to continue improving. As for younger one who is more academically inclined, the new change might slow down her ability to learn more and stretch her potential. In a mix ability class, teachers need to slow down for the rest to catch up.
Are there schools that have top classes that put the top 120 in random HA classes (does not need to differentiate A, B or C) and the rest in random mix ability? -
love1001:
Hi Parents, following the remover of AS, the next biggest change is the remover of P4 streaming and class allocation. Starting this year, P4 will be randomly allocated to their P5 classes which are all mix ability. There will be no more top classes. As a known fact, current system benefits the top 80 only because the best teachers are teaching these 2 classes. The new system will benefit the remaining 280 in general. DD1 will be the first batch to go through this change. I hope this is something positive. Speaking to a few parents, some feel there is a need to keep 2 top classes to stretch the potential of these HA students. Otherwise they will be bored by the slower pace of learning. What is your take?
personally, I think the parents of potentially the top 2 classes will cry...and the rest of the classes will welcome the change..so in general maybe more ppl will feel happy with the change?
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