* Nanyang JC (NYJC)

[mjl]

mellory:

Hi hi I don't mean to join the discussion, just want to talk about the simple maths: 14% increase of 31 IS 35, not 45! (31x0.14)+31

If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

[MyMelborne]

mjl:

mellory:

Hi hi I don't mean to join the discussion, just want to talk about the simple maths: 14% increase of 31 IS 35, not 45! (31x0.14)+31

If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

mellory is definitely correct.

Let x be 31%
14% of x = 4.34.
Total will be x + 4.34 = 35.34
Unit of measure of x does not affect its computation.

Btw mjl, like to hear your fair view of the 'controversial' photo.

[EthanEthan]

mjl:

mellory:

Hi hi I don't mean to join the discussion, just want to talk about the simple maths: 14% increase of 31 IS 35, not 45! (31x0.14)+31

If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

Er....you need to revise percentages.......

[mjl]

EthanEthan:

mjl:

[quote=\"mellory\"]Hi hi I don't mean to join the discussion, just want to talk about the simple maths: 14% increase of 31 IS 35, not 45! (31x0.14)+31

If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

Er....you need to revise percentages.......[/quote]My mistake is, I should have said 14% increase of 31 is 4.34 (not 4.34%).

I still think it makes more sense to add them, as increase of 14% over 31% is 45%. (It is more of English?)

Refer to below:
\"Indian students showed the most improvement over the last 10 years, with 98 per cent being eligible for these courses at secondary schools. This is an increase of 2.1 percentage points compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006.\"
Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/students-faring-better-at-psle-o-levels-and-a-levels-over-last-decade-moe-study

[EthanEthan]

mjl:

EthanEthan:

[quote=\"mjl\"]
If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

Er....you need to revise percentages.......

My mistake is, I should have said 14% increase of 31 is 4.34 (not 4.34%).

I still think it makes more sense to add them, as increase of 14% over 31% is 45%. (It is more of English?)

Refer to below:
\"Indian students showed the most improvement over the last 10 years, with 98 per cent being eligible for these courses at secondary schools. This is an increase of 2.1 percentage points compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006.\"
Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/students-faring-better-at-psle-o-levels-and-a-levels-over-last-decade-moe-study[/quote]Is there any difference between these 2 statements ?

1.This is an increase of 2.1 percentage points compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006

2.This is an increase of 2.1 % compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006

[MyMelborne]

mjl:

My mistake is, I should have said 14% increase of 31 is 4.34 (not 4.34%).

I still think it makes more sense to add them, as increase of 14% over 31% is 45%. (It is more of English?)

Refer to below:
\"Indian students showed the most improvement over the last 10 years, with 98 per cent being eligible for these courses at secondary schools. This is an increase of 2.1 percentage points compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006.\"
Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/students-faring-better-at-psle-o-levels-and-a-levels-over-last-decade-moe-study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzTEmVbvSw&app=desktop
From the video at 0:30s, NYJC principal said \"Our students who have gotten a mimimum of 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP improved by 14%\". Nothing else is stated.
If 31% was last year's figure, then 35% will be the figure this year.

[UBKmom]

KTKS:

zbear:

I didn't know NYJC is one of the top JCs. I only know NYJC is a popular JC based on O level COP.

Agree with zbear.

Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year. It's vague so I shall infer it to be the % of pupils who scored at least 3 H2 distinctions has improved by 14%.
Based on NYJC parent info, it was 31% in 2015. Hence 2016 batch should have 35% of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions.
VJC achieved 53% for 2016 batch.

In terms of COP:
VJC - 5(sci) / 7(arts)
NYJC - 6(sci) / 7(arts) - very close COP

In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results

Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one.

Under normal circumstances, if a JC is popular and able to attract good students, it will also be a top JC.

If this is the true case then I think NYJC is not maximizing the potential of her students. Is this the reason why they don’t want to release their detail results as it may affect their COP or popularity? But why this happen? It cannot be the student fault since they have similar COP/caliber. Not sure VS/Cedar IP made a different…..

Not only NYJC, I think its important for all JCs to release their detail results especially individual subject level as this will reflect the specific strength of a JC and will definitely useful to student in their selection of JC based on their interest.

[Dreamgear]

Going by that criteria, then ri and hci should be producing straight AAA/A results for the total cohort, as the students entering the 2 jc at both Sec 1 and JC1 are the best top students in sgp…

[KTKS]

MUMMYOF3:

Aiyo this is indeed a kaisu parents forumn ! If really so kiasi dont choose the school.


My boy who qualified for a better JC has chosen NYJC. After visiting few JCs open house , he told me he made up his mind to choose NYJC. He said he liked the school environment, distance and the school hours attracted him. I said fine and good luck to him.

He was delighted when he was posted to NYJC. The first day of school back, he told me many of his classmates were all 3 to 5 pointers. They are qualified for a better JCs but all chosen NYJC because of the distance and school hours.

So please parents don't be too bother about the school standard. Most important our kids must like the school environment and distance also play apart.
If have doubts on the dont choose the JC.

All the best to NYJC kids !

UBKmom:

Under normal circumstances, if a JC is popular and able to attract good students, it will also be a top JC.

If this is the true case then I think NYJC is not maximizing the potential of her students. Is this the reason why they don’t want to release their detail results as it may affect their COP or popularity? But why this happen? It cannot be the student fault since they have similar COP/caliber. Not sure VS/Cedar IP made a different…..

Not only NYJC, I think its important for all JCs to release their detail results especially individual subject level as this will reflect the specific strength of a JC and will definitely useful to student in their selection of JC based on their interest.

If pupils are attracted to a jc by factors other than school standard, surely there's no necessity for the jc to risk its popularity by revealing its results.

[KTKS]

MyMelborne:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzTEmVbvSw&app=desktop

From the video at 0:30s, NYJC principal said \"Our students who have gotten a mimimum of 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP improved by 14%\". Nothing else is stated.
If 31% was last year's figure, then 35% will be the figure this year.

2014 cohort -min 3H2 distinctions - 31%
2014 COP - 7 sci/ 8 arts

2015 cohort - min 3H2 distinctions - 35%
2015 COP - 7 sci / 7 arts
(NYJC arts hybrid is a popular choice as unusual combi are possible)

I am sure the improvement in COP has helped brought about the improvement of the current results.