* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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mindays:
Well, a popular JC can be a top JC too. I wont deny that VJC is a popular JC and it is one of the top JCs in SG. [/quote]Generally, Most of the popular boys in class are usually not very smart, just good-looking.
Agree with zbear.KTKS:
[quote=\"zbear\"]
I didn't know NYJC is one of the top JCs. I only know NYJC is a popular JC based on O level COP.
Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year. It's vague so I shall infer it to be the % of pupils who scored at least 3 H2 distinctions has improved by 14%.
Based on NYJC parent info, it was 31% in 2015. Hence 2016 batch should have 35% of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions.
VJC achieved 53% for 2016 batch.
In terms of COP:
VJC - 5(sci) / 7(arts)
NYJC - 6(sci) / 7(arts) - very close COP
In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results
Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one. -
mindays:
NJC in my opinion is still a strong established JC, not to worry![/quote]Wow! \"In your opinion\"
I agreed with Mindays on the NJC's A level resutls analysis but my question is what happen to NJC if the analysis is correct? They took in IP with COP of 255~258 and JAE students at 7/5 in 2014, 6/5 in 2015 which I consider it to be of high calibre and quality students. The reason cannot be HCI opposite as they are there for decades, I think the increase in IP schools and Eunoia JC could have take a toll on NJ. May be they should team up with a top secondary school and increase their intake of IP students...look at VJC...NJC is the oldest JC with excellent academic achievements in past and I hate to see her deteriorate further....UBKmom:
[quote=\"mindays\"]
I have my reasons for bringing in NJC this year, okay, allow me to explain, no offense intended.
I took note of NJ's results as follows:
H2 Subjects with at least 50% Distinctions
• Art
• Chinese Language & Literature
• Economics
• French
• German
• History
• Knowledge & Inquiry
• Mathematics
• Physics
• Tamil Language & Literature
Note that these H2 subjects are mostly taken by the minorities of NJ: Art, Chinese Language & Literature, French, German, Knowledge & Inquiry, Tamil Language & Literature. 6 out of 10 of the subjects that were posted on its website are subjects that are taken by the minority of the students (assuming the popular science courses in NJC is just as regular as the other JCs: PCME and BCME) Note that common humanities like Geography and Literature are not above the 50% rate.
NJC had 46% of its students scoring at least 3H2 distinctions LAST YEAR (2015 A level results). NJC has also been relatively silent about its A level results for 2016 as compared to 2015. This may mean that the 2016's results may not be as good as 2015's. This means that there may be fewer than 46% of its students achieving 3H2 distinctions. In contrast to NYJC, taking that the cohort size is 700 and 260 of them got 3H2 distinctions, the percentage (rounded down to be more prudent) is 37%. That's why I said that NYJC is probably comparable to NJC.
Given that NJC is well known for its science related programmes and its excellence in that, I would have expected its results for H2 Chemistry and H2 Biology to be one of the subjects that exceeds 50% distinction rates. As a top 5 JC (or supposedly so), it is a given that H2 Math and H2 Sciences subjects (majority take PCME too) should surpass the 50% barrier. In this case, H2 Math did and H2 Physics too. This brings me to the point that NJC may not have done as well as the other IPJCs like VJ or DHS, not to even compare with RI or HCI.
Out of all the IP JCs (there are 7 which take the A levels (2016 batch)), I took the last 3 of the tier (TJC, RVHS and NJC) and said that it is probably comparable to a top non-IP JC (in this case NYJC, but to be more correct, ACJC as its 6/7 for that year) based on COP. Rationale: logically speaking, these non-IPJCs should comprise of top o level students that didn't go IPJCs, hence COP is used.
I have no ill intentions to downgrade any JCs but rather to show that non-IP JCs can be as capable as IPJCs.
Now that you have relegated NJC to a \"lower tier\" IPJC, \"in your opinion\" how are other \"lower tier\" IPJC like DHS, RVHS and TJC compare to NYJC?
In some of your previous posts, you mentioned NYJC results is better than TJC and on par with DHS and RVHS. -
mindays:
Every JC (whether non-IP JC or IP-JC) is unique, they each have their own strengths / weakness.
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At the end of the day, it is equitable that all JC students have to take the final battle of A level. In fact NYJC's results may be comparable to IP JCs like TJC and even RVHS, probably NJC too.
What I am saying is that not all IPJCs are more superior than non-IP JCs.
many \"A\" level students in Nanyang JC had taken (PCME, BCME).
As such, many people would be interested to know the performance of H2 subjects, related to above popular subject combination, coming from a non-IP JC (Nanyang JC).
between these two (PCME and BCME) :
more tend to take PCME combination, as Physics open up more future career option(s) compared to Biology, when come to choosing faculty / course of study, at universities, after \"A\" level.
amongst Humanities : Econs is popular, because dealing with global banking & finance, economics knowledge. Hence, many \"A\" students tend to take Econs as well, in their subject combination
based on 2016 A level latest batch (born in Y1998) -
anyone know how is the performance of these 3 Pure Sciences, at Nanyang JC, for H2 (Bio, Chemistry, Physics) & Econs ?
Thanks, very much appreciated.
PCME : Physics, Chem, Maths, Econs
B : Bio -
iFirefly:
I can't find DHS A level results for 2017 at its website
DHS has just updated her 2017 A Level results on the school website. Its simply spectacular ! Do you think DHS has probably overtaken VJC to be in 3rd place this year ? If yes, do you think NYJC's results is probably on par with VJC's too ? :evil:
http://dunmanhigh.moe.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/website/about-dhs/index.html -
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MyMelborne:
Seem like the usual same old group of people ( be it parents/ students ) have reappeared after what I have posted about Nyjc result.
At first, I was impressed with this picture posted above. I thought it was the number of pupils who scored at least 3H2 distinctions for class of 2016 during the recent A level results release.Crester:
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The class of 2016 gave a fantastic performance in the A Level exam.
An overall improvement of 14% as compared to last year results.
:congrats:
Parents who are keen to know in details can make appointment with the Principa/VP to meet up.
After much discussions here, genuine intetested people can decide for themselves what to believe n not believe in. So no disastrous as nobody forces one to opt Nyjc. There are other resources people can depend on to decide a JC other than reading in this Forum which has become questionable.
Its last year brief 2015 A level results being told here is true as I was in college on that day. The rest of the issues i dont know.
But when I visited the nyjc official website, the photo only comes with a congratulatory note to class of 2015/16. I roughly counted and estimated that there were more than 500 pupils or perhaps 700 of them when I enlarged the photo using my hp.
The scene was repeated in the video you shared. I believe it's the entire cohort of about 700 graduands as some boys were seen carrying their haversacks or slingbag with them. You may estimate the number using the 'row by column' method.
Crester, please comment if this is a group photo of the entire 2015/16 cohort or is this the photo of pupils who have outstanding results and were invited to the stage?
Note: Not that I want to 'stir trouble' or doubt nyjc's results as the intake is of good COP but the information posted here is sometimes misleading unless one scrutinizes....
Nyjc issue has suppressed down these few wks.
But I need to say that you- MyMelelborne has made disrepute remarks on Nyjc, that is the college staff and graduated class of 2016. Nobody has commented on yr post above but I have to.
Call it justice to NYJC!
Yr posts:
A) 'roughly counted and estimated that there were more than 500 pupils or perhaps 700 of them when I enlarged the photo using my hp.'
- If you Estimate next time, then don't post here. Be sure. One moment counted 500 then number became 700. Please don't exaggerate and MISLEAD ( you like to use this word )others.
B) 'believe it's the entire cohort of about 700 graduands as some boys were seen carrying their haversacks or slingbag with them. You may estimate the number using the 'row by column' method.'
- what's wrong with Top students carrying bags and have photos taken?
- yr estimation of the number is obviously way out as how can the students appeared in photos be 500. Any sensible people know it's lesser than 500.
- how can the whole cohort of class 2016 fit into the picture.
FYI, these abt 260+ students were not all standing on stage. They were in front of the stage.
- go and check out a few other Top JCS web site which featured their Top students. They also used the words 'Class Of 2016' similar to Nyjc. So what's wrong with Nyjc featuring their Top Honour students and using 'Class Of 2016' that will make you and your clique suspect Nyjc has misled others.
You mean you didnt go into these JCs web site to find out their results.
You can say you were just enquiring, that's fine if you sounded genuine. BUT when your cliques replied in subsequent posts to what you have enquired, your choice of words were definitely mocking Nyjc class of 2016 and sounded very sure that photo is the whole cohort of class 2016.
Your such posting with no valid ground, you just expose your character.
How not to make people feel you are stirring trouble. You don't waste your time to scrutinise Nyjc photo, you can choose not to believe better.
Nyjc Class of 2016 and Nyjc Teachers have put in effort to produce a strong performance in A level results, so give the due respect to them.
Nyjc chooses not to publish any results, so respect its decision. Nobody forces you to belief or don't worry others will be mislead as I always say- people have eyes to see and decide themselves.
I know I should not escalate this issue but all you anti people have been unfair to comment on NYJC just because it doesn't reveal its results. Please go to your Liked JC.
In conclusion, I shall share a bit of NYJC strong performance A Level results ( being a Non IPJC ), which is Comparable to a JC in Bukit Timah, in my next posting soon.
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KTKS:
Agree with zbear.zbear:
[quote=\"UBKmom\"]
I am quite puzzle...NYJC is one of the top JC and they already said they have performed well...why their reluctance to release even one bit of info...
I didn't know NYJC is one of the top JCs. I only know NYJC is a popular JC based on O level COP.
Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year. It's vague so I shall infer it to be the % of pupils who scored at least 3 H2 distinctions has improved by 14%.
Based on NYJC parent info, it was 31% in 2015. Hence 2016 batch should have 35% of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions.
VJC achieved 53% for 2016 batch.
In terms of COP:
VJC - 5(sci) / 7(arts)
NYJC - 6(sci) / 7(arts) - very close COP
In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results
Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one.[/quote]Quote:\"Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year.\"
- not claimed but told by college management, Principal.
- don't understand why VJC is being used to compare with NYJC result.
VJC COP was 5/6, NYJC COP was 7/7 for class 2016.
Unfair comparison. VJC ( I admit ) result will be better and being a partial IP JC.
Quote: 'In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results
Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one.'
- sorry to correct you, NYJC achieved more than 35% in terms of at least 3H2 Distinctions with pass in GP.
- nobody says NYJC is a Top JC right but it achieved a big improvement in 3 H2 Distinctions %.
That's an achievement. -
Crester:
Quote:\"Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year.\"
Agree with zbear.KTKS:
[quote=\"zbear\"]
I didn't know NYJC is one of the top JCs. I only know NYJC is a popular JC based on O level COP.
Someone claimed NYJC improved by 14% this year. It's vague so I shall infer it to be the % of pupils who scored at least 3 H2 distinctions has improved by 14%.
Based on NYJC parent info, it was 31% in 2015. Hence 2016 batch should have 35% of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions.
VJC achieved 53% for 2016 batch.
In terms of COP:
VJC - 5(sci) / 7(arts)
NYJC - 6(sci) / 7(arts) - very close COP
In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results
Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one.
- not claimed but told by college management, Principal.
- don't understand why VJC is being used to compare with NYJC result.
VJC COP was 5/6, NYJC COP was 7/7 for class 2016.
Unfair comparison. VJC ( I admit ) result will be better and being a partial IP JC.
Quote: 'In terms of % of pupils with at least 3 H2 distinctions:
VJC - 53%
NYJC - 35% - very different results
Hence it's not a top JC but simply a popular one.'
- sorry to correct you, NYJC achieved more than 35% in terms of at least 3H2 Distinctions with pass in GP.
- nobody says NYJC is a Top JC right but it achieved a big improvement in 3 H2 Distinctions %.
That's an achievement.[/quote]Alright. Note that video wasn't shared prior to that and at least I didn't refuke the 14% figure.
VJC was being used as a comparison to show that NYJC was indeed a popular choice as its results (disregarding the previous COP) was far off from VJC despite sharing the same COP as VJC for its Arts stream and just trailing 1 point behind VJC's Science stream this year.
Please share the official release of the figure of \"more than 35%\". :roll:
You didn't mention NYJC is a top JC but somebody else in this forum said so and hence my analysis.
Just as what you had pointed out on the difference in COP between NYJC and VJC for class 2016, please note that the \"big improvement\" you exaggerated on NYJC performance needs to be toned down due to the COP difference between class of 2015(sci 7/arts
and 2016(sci 7/arts 7) of NYJC itself too. :evil:
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Crester:
Great! We will be waiting. We need concrete proof such as official publishing please.
In conclusion, I shall share a bit of NYJC strong performance A Level results ( being a Non IPJC ), which is Comparable to a JC in Bukit Timah, in my next posting soon.
Thanks.
A piece of advice: Don't try to exaggerate on NYJC's performance so that you don't have to ward off your 'unwelcomed guests' which you viewed as trouble makers later.
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YLH88:
I was there too. Mentally counted about 250. YLH88, you estimated 260? Principal didn't announce the exact figure right or did I miss out something?
The photo in the FB and school website is indeed ALL students that are in the HONOURS ROLL (students scoring 3As to 7As). A total of about 260 students score at least 3 distinctions in 3 H2 and a pass in GP. It is NOT the 2016 cohort photo for the school. How can a cohort of about 750 J2 students be housed on the small stage ??
Why the students bring their bags along ? Because they gathered in the Hall and run up the stage to hand-shake with the 2 principals (ex and current) then after they will go out of the Hall to collect their result slips. Do you think the kids will remember to remove their bags, caps before dashing up the stage ? They are all jumping with joy already...
Next question to pop up with be \"How do you know this ? What proof do you have ?\"
Answer is : I was in the Hall when they announced the results.
Well, you can choose not to believe this if you still doubt in NYJC performance, so be it.
Have a nice day.
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