2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[jetsetter]

phtthp:

jetsetter:

Did they say they will do away with the COP?
.

if they don't impose the 20% rule : Yes, the COP can still be fixed at 250 (NYPS) or 230 (SNGS)

but with 20% rule, imposed : implies that it will depend on that particular year's PSLE market performance condition, for each PSLE batch, isn't it ? or is my interpretation wrong ? :?
how to fix ?
unless these 2 schools still admit affliated students, BEYOND 100% seating capacity ?

anyway, this being an open forum, do correct me, if I happen to interpret wrongly. Thanks, very much
if i am wrong in my interpretation, i apologise, folks

That's why I posed this qn. How do they rationalise this? Wait for P briefing lor.

[jetsetter]

MyPillow:

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/affiliated-schools-reserve-20-places-non-affiliated-students-2019-moe


hmm.... initially i thought this will come in in 2021 psle batch ( with the new psle scoring), am caught by surprised - I m affected

For the weaker ones, i.e. near NA/NT borderline, they need to worry.

But for the stronger ones, there's no need to worry, as majority would have gone for \"better\" schools with higher COP, instead of their own affiliation school.

It's the sandwiched group that I'm curious about. E.g. if more than 20% of affiliates meet the COP 220 of SCGS, are they going to take in based on affiliates' t-scores (highest get in first until the last seat is taken).

Are they going to ballot if there's a tie?

Perhaps phtthp's right. The current COP would need to be adjusted.

[phtthp]

jetsetter:

That's why I posed this qn. How do they rationalise this? Wait for P briefing lor.

ok, let's wait for P briefing at NYPS, CHS, SNGS, SCGS, MGS, Maris Stella, St Margaret, St Andrew, CHIJ schools, plus all other affliated schools : to 2017 (P5, P4, P3, P2, P1) batch of students, including Mainstream & Gep students (P4, P5)

[phtthp]

jetsetter:

MyPillow:

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/affiliated-schools-reserve-20-places-non-affiliated-students-2019-moe


hmm.... initially i thought this will come in in 2021 psle batch ( with the new psle scoring), am caught by surprised - I m affected

For the weaker ones, i.e. near NA/NT borderline, they need to worry.

But for the stronger ones, there's no need to worry, as majority would have gone for \"better\" schools with higher COP, instead of their own affiliation school.

It's the sandwiched group that I'm curious about. E.g. if more than 20% of affiliates meet the COP 220 of SCGS, are they going to take in based on affiliates' t-scores (highest get in first until the last seat is taken).

Are they going to ballot if there's a tie?

besides SCGS, MGS @ 220 COP (for affliates) also same

plus ACS Barker, + PLMGS (@ 205 COP, for affliates), + Geylang Methodist, + a number of CHIJ schools (@ 200 COP, for affliates), + St Margaret, St Andrew, Maris Stella, etc

a lot of mission schools, are affected

[Imp75]

actually I am quite optimistic about the changes esp the part about dropping DSA Acad general (which means gepper or other acad generalists will be marginalised). Imagine no if gepper or acad generalists and seriously how many MO gold or platinum winners do we have…I foresee more DSA spaces will be given out to second tier MO specialists for the top IP schools…

[phtthp]

Imp75:

Exactly the biggest \"casualties\" are the geppers with no specific talent. Good luck to RI/RGS who take in lots of geppers.


Qn though how do these geppers continue their SBGE?

but if these Geppers generalists without specific talent in any academic subject, but happen to possess talent in specific Sports / Arts / leadership skill, they can still DSA into RI / RGS, by the latter route.

[phtthp]

Imp75:

actually I am quite optimistic about the changes esp the part about dropping DSA Acad general (which means gepper or other acad generalists will be marginalised). Imagine no if gepper or acad generalists and seriously how many MO gold or platinum winners do we have.....


I foresee more DSA spaces will be given out to second tier MO specialists for the top IP schools....

Yes, once P6 Gepper generalists free up the space : their places will goto those who enter by high T-score, via Sec 1 MOE posting

in other words, from 2019 :
Geppers (generalists) have to rely on their own PSLE T-score to enter top IP schools, if they do not have specific academic subject, to DSA, nor possess any specific Sports / Arts / leadership skill.

But then, Geppers get into GEP course (P4 onwards) in the first case, is because the students are already strong in both English & Maths, after sitting for P3 two round of Screening tests. Hence, they can consider DSA by English, or Maths (specific subject domain), since these are subjects they are already strong in, since P3.

[MyPillow]

phtthp:

Imp75:

actually I am quite optimistic about the changes esp the part about dropping DSA Acad general (which means gepper or other acad generalists will be marginalised). Imagine no if gepper or acad generalists and seriously how many MO gold or platinum winners do we have.....


I foresee more DSA spaces will be given out to second tier MO specialists for the top IP schools....

Yes, once P6 Gepper generalists free up the space : their places will goto those who enter by high T-score, via Sec 1 MOE posting

in other words, from 2019 :
Geppers (generalists) have to rely on their own PSLE T-score to enter top IP schools, if they do not have specific academic subject, to DSA, nor possess any specific Sports / Arts / leadership skill.

yep, agree this is a more fairer & holistic move. general academic should not be classify under distinctive talent .... but \"they\" had already choked up so many seats since DSA started yrs ago ! anyway if a child 's academic talent is built up & aided by expensive tuition ,v soon tyre will puncture in a competitive IP environment or JC - harder fall with deeper impact then

[lee_yl]

phtthp:

jetsetter:

For the weaker ones, i.e. near NA/NT borderline, they need to worry.

But for the stronger ones, there's no need to worry, as majority would have gone for \"better\" schools with higher COP, instead of their own affiliation school.

It's the sandwiched group that I'm curious about. E.g. if more than 20% of affiliates meet the COP 220 of SCGS, are they going to take in based on affiliates' t-scores (highest get in first until the last seat is taken).

Are they going to ballot if there's a tie?

besides SCGS, MGS @ 220 COP (for affliates) also same

plus ACS Barker, + PLMGS (@ 205 COP, for affliates), + Geylang Methodist, + a number of CHIJ schools (@ 200 COP, for affliates), + St Margaret, St Andrew, Maris Stella, etc

a lot of mission schools, are affected

It was written that the requirement of 20% reserved for non-affiliated students affects only 6-7 schools in Singapore as majority of the affiliated sec schools already takes in more than 20% of non-affiliates.

[phtthp]

MyPillow:

yep, agree this is a more fairer & holistic move. general academic should not be classify under distinctive talent .... but \"they\" had already choked up so many seats since DSA started yrs ago ! anyway if a child 's academic talent is built up & aided by expensive tuition ,v soon tyre will puncture in a competitive IP environment or JC - harder fall with deeper impact then

heard that the last 2 years (Year 5 & 6) in Junior Colleges are very competitive