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    8 Junior Colleges are Merging? Rumors or Reality?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • NebbermindN Offline
      Nebbermind
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      janet88:
      good one.


      even if RI says yes, the students have to meet the COP first. not all students are cut out to enter RI or Hwa Chong. they won't lower standards just to take in more students.
      looks like you still donch quite understand how COP works

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      • JenniferJ Offline
        Jennifer
        last edited by

        janet88:
        lee_yl:


        RI is an independent school so enjoys full autonomy.

        But if minister \"asks\" and their principal says no, probably we will see a new principal.

        good one.

        even if RI says yes, the students have to meet the COP first. not all students are cut out to enter RI or Hwa Chong. they won't lower standards just to take in more students.

        There won't be \"lowering of standards\", as intake depends on COP. The school just needs to increase the cohort size.

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        • JenniferJ Offline
          Jennifer
          last edited by

          ngl2010:
          In the yesterday's newspaper, it is written that \"For example, Anderson JC may take in 800 to 850 students, instead of the current 750 or so.\" If the remaining 19 schools are to absorb 50-100 students, that would mean 950-1900 students. It is about the right number of students from the 4 closed down schools. An increase of 50-100 students per school for just 1 year could cause disruption. The problem is how to get teachers just for 1 year for the remaining 19 schools that will absorb more students? Relief teachers? If relief teachers, most likely the quality of schools will go down. The teachers from the closed down JCs are unlikely able to be distributed to other schools because they still have JC2 to teach at the closed down JCs. What is MOE's plan to tackle this problem?


          Remember, the problem is for 1 year only before the 4 merged schools start receiving new students from the closed down schools in 2019.
          Seen from the other perspective, the remaining JC2 students now get better attention of their teachers. Parents of this batch of JC2 should rejoice.

          There are a few articles in today's The Straits Times relating to this school mergers matter.

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          • M Offline
            mum_sugoku
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            Since the affected JCs will cease admitting students from next year, we shall see if, come 2018, max COP of least popular JC remains unchanged at 20pts. Else, we’ll have ground to suspect that MOE is indeed downsizing JCs to force borderline scorers to go poly instead.

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            • floppyF Offline
              floppy
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              mum_sugoku:
              Since the affected JCs will cease admitting students from next year, we shall see if, come 2018, max COP of least popular JC remains unchanged at 20pts. Else, we'll have ground to suspect that MOE is indeed downsizing JCs to force borderline scorers to go poly instead.

              COP is based on supply and demand. COP will probably change with an increase in places, but +2 at best. It's unlikely to fall drastically unless the supply (availability of places) is ramped up significantly.

              To offer a max COP of 20, it would have to be a deliberate decision to artificially maintain it at 20 given the reduction in available places.

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              • J Offline
                jetsetter
                last edited by

                floppy:
                mum_sugoku:

                Since the affected JCs will cease admitting students from next year, we shall see if, come 2018, max COP of least popular JC remains unchanged at 20pts. Else, we'll have ground to suspect that MOE is indeed downsizing JCs to force borderline scorers to go poly instead.


                COP is based on supply and demand. COP will probably change with an increase in places, but +2 at best. It's unlikely to fall drastically unless the supply (availability of places) is ramped up significantly.

                To offer a max COP of 20, it would have to be a deliberate decision to artificially maintain it at 20 given the reduction in available places.

                In last night's clarification, MOE said AJC and SRJC's COPs may see a slight drop after the merger. The rest probably still stays around the same range. YJC and IJC will still be in the lowest tier I think.

                If I'm not wrong, 20 had been the JC COP for the longest time. 20-30 years ago that is.

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                • JenniferJ Offline
                  Jennifer
                  last edited by

                  I find it disturbing that some people still think Poly route is inferior to JC route.


                  These days Poly is so happening.

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                  • J Offline
                    jetsetter
                    last edited by

                    lee_yl:
                    I think the closure/merger of 4 JCs definitively has something to do with the demographic changes, from DH's era of 100K+ live birth a year till only 30K+ live births a year. Balestier Hill Sec and Henderson and other secondary schools have already been \"merged\" so it just a matter of time before the JCs merge. Even for GEP, 3 classes had to shut down in 2016 and another 2 classes were shut down in 2017 due to the shrinking pupil cohort. So who knows, govt might just shut down another 2 JCs next year.


                    However, the govt planning could be better improved? Tampines is the biggest estate in Singapore and they will be left with 1 JC after this merger excercise. Whereas Bishan, with a smaller population, will have two JCs there. :scratchhead:

                    Or maybe the govt now wants to promote STEM (Science/Technology/Engineering/Maths) education and trying to shepherd more to poly? I wonder if we will see a merger of the polys and opening of new JCs when another new educational minister takes over. :rotflmao:

                    Some asked why open EJC when within a few years, 4 JCs will be \"merged\"? Let's not forget EJC was planned under the previous educational minister hor, so \"change minister must change policy\".

                    To put it crudely, even when a NTUC store changes its manager, the new manager will re-arrange the shelves until I can't find my canned food. :siam:
                    MOE already attributed to declining live births in the press release.

                    https://s21.postimg.org/3nrdf77af/170420_moe_falling-births_online.jpg\">

                    Joint IP of SCGS, CHS and SNGS was conceptualised not during the 'previous' Ed Min's (HSK) term, but NEH's.

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                    • Y Offline
                      Yngmng
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                      Jennifer:
                      I find it disturbing that some people still think Poly route is inferior to JC route.


                      These days Poly is so happening.
                      In 2015, about 34% of poly graduates made it to local Uni. That is not too bad!

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                      • phtthpP Offline
                        phtthp
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                        Jennifer:
                        I find it disturbing that some people still think Poly route is inferior to JC route.


                        These days Poly is so happening.
                        Employers value Poly Diploma holders more than JC students, because of ready skills Poly students can offer

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