8 Junior Colleges are Merging? Rumors or Reality?
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slmkhoo:
Does 40% mean 30% local university graduates plus 10% other universities graduates (overseas, etc)?
Actually, the govt plan to have up to 40% of each cohort to be graduates. At the moment, it's around 30% even with the increases over the past couple of decades. In any case, if the range of jobs remains about the same (we will always need a mix of different types of jobs), even if 80% are graduates, it will just mean that many graduates will be doing what used to be non-graduate jobs. If students are going to get degrees just because they want to study a few more years out of interest, that's a good thing; but if all graduates expect to get what used to be \"graduate\" jobs (ie. top 20%), many will be disappointed. -
Which education path to take?
Which career path to take?
More headaches for parents...
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education-system-must-be-aligned-with-economy-ong-ye-kung
\"The education system needs to be aligned with the structure of the economy, so that people will continue to be armed with the required skills to find jobs in the current age of disruption, Minister for Education (Higher Education and Skills) Ong Ye Kung said yesterday.
In Singapore, this means capping the proportion of graduates in a cohort at about 30 per cent to 40 per cent, while training the rest for vocations in various industries...\"
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/fresh-grad-hopes-to-earn-2500-a-month
\"He started looking for jobs in March and has sent out about 40 resumes to companies looking for sales, accounting, human resource and finance staff.
He has gone for three interviews so far, with two human resource companies and a local bank...\" -
Well... As parents, after we spend so much time, money & effort to develop our children until Singapore is number one in PISA ranking, yet when our children reach the tertiary level, there is a deliberate policy to restrict our children the chance of entering local universities? :censored:
Anyway, the Govt is not stopping you from spending $200k (or more) if you want to send your children overseas to complete their undergraduate studies. Funny right, especially since in our local universities, like NTU, many places are taken up by foreign talents.
In this time & era of a knowledge-based economy, shouldn't there be more grads? JMHO, the Govt should just condition the population's mind instead of arbitrarily restricting only 30% - 40% of our next generation to be able to complete their Uni studies locally? To me, having completed Uni studies, whether to enter work force as an executive or join the gig economy or be a SAHM is our choice. The government might as well stop all females from attending schools since many SAHM are grads whose contributions won't be captured in the GDP statistics.
Maybe the government is worried that graduates who can't find gainful employment will be resentful and vote against government. -
:udawoman: :goodpost:
lee_yl:
Well... As parents, after we spend so much time, money & effort to develop our children until Singapore is number one in PISA ranking, yet when our children reach the tertiary level, there is a deliberate policy to restrict our children the chance of entering local universities? :censored:
Anyway, the Govt is not stopping you from spending $200k (or more) if you want to send your children overseas to complete their undergraduate studies. Funny right, especially since in our local universities, like NTU, many places are taken up by foreign talents.
In this time & era of a knowledge-based economy, shouldn't there be more grads? JMHO, the Govt should just condition the population's mind instead of arbitrarily restricting only 30% - 40% of our next generation to be able to complete their Uni studies locally? To me, having completed Uni studies, whether to enter work force as an executive or join the gig economy or be a SAHM is our choice. The government might as well stop all females from attending schools since many SAHM are grads whose contributions won't be captured in the GDP statistics.
Maybe the government is worried that graduates who can't find gainful employment will be resentful and vote against government. -
DaddyD:
So to summerarise, the government wants to encourage people to take the Polytechnic route with vocational training. Actually what vocational training/jobs does the government have in mind? But with rising automation and AI, aren't the jobs most at risk vocational in nature as well as simple white-collar jobs (such as paralegals)?Which education path to take?
Which career path to take?
More headaches for parents...
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education-system-must-be-aligned-with-economy-ong-ye-kung
\"The education system needs to be aligned with the structure of the economy, so that people will continue to be armed with the required skills to find jobs in the current age of disruption, Minister for Education (Higher Education and Skills) Ong Ye Kung said yesterday.
In Singapore, this means capping the proportion of graduates in a cohort at about 30 per cent to 40 per cent, while training the rest for vocations in various industries...\"
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/fresh-grad-hopes-to-earn-2500-a-month
\"He started looking for jobs in March and has sent out about 40 resumes to companies looking for sales, accounting, human resource and finance staff.
He has gone for three interviews so far, with two human resource companies and a local bank...\" -
The kids growing up, face a future challenge, in jobs search.
21 jobs, are already being replaced by robots, through automation :-
including accountants, surgeons, factory production line workers, sales & marketing staff, etc.
We are living in a VUCA world :-
Highly volatile, filled with uncertainty, complexity, ambiguity.
Secondary schools are thinking hard : how best to prepare our students, for future jobs ?
There's no answer ...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/21-jobs-where-robots-are-already-replacing-humans/ss-BBv6yiU#image=4 -
slmkhoo:
currently, before merging of the 8 JCs, what is the %tage of A level students, entering uni?
Actually, the govt plan to have up to 40% of each cohort to be graduates. At the moment, it's around 30% even with the increases over the past couple of decades. In any case, if the range of jobs remains about the same (we will always need a mix of different types of jobs), even if 80% are graduates, it will just mean that many graduates will be doing what used to be non-graduate jobs. If students are going to get degrees just because they want to study a few more years out of interest, that's a good thing; but if all graduates expect to get what used to be \"graduate\" jobs (ie. top 20%), many will be disappointed.
How far is the current percentage, away from the future targeted 30 to 40%, entering uni, the rest to go poly ? -
lee_yl:
:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost:Well... As parents, after we spend so much time, money & effort to develop our children until Singapore is number one in PISA ranking, yet when our children reach the tertiary level, there is a deliberate policy to restrict our children the chance of entering local universities? :censored:
Anyway, the Govt is not stopping you from spending $200k (or more) if you want to send your children overseas to complete their undergraduate studies. Funny right, especially since in our local universities, like NTU, many places are taken up by foreign talents.
In this time & era of a knowledge-based economy, shouldn't there be more grads? JMHO, the Govt should just condition the population's mind instead of arbitrarily restricting only 30% - 40% of our next generation to be able to complete their Uni studies locally? To me, having completed Uni studies, whether to enter work force as an executive or join the gig economy or be a SAHM is our choice. The government might as well stop all females from attending schools since many SAHM are grads whose contributions won't be captured in the GDP statistics.
Maybe the government is worried that graduates who can't find gainful employment will be resentful and vote against government.
dear yl, what else can i say? you have said everything i want to.
how many families can afford to send their kids overseas to study? many of us want and hope as much as possible for our kids to enter local universities especially since NUS is world class.
the govt has never recognized the efforts of SAHMs. -
lee_yl:
will this mean more students who are not so good A level grades : be forced to study overseas, in more expensive private universities, abroad ?
So to summerarise, the government wants to encourage people to take the Polytechnic route with vocational training. Actually what vocational training/jobs does the government have in mind? But with rising automation and AI, aren't the jobs most at risk vocational in nature as well as simple white-collar jobs (such as paralegals)?DaddyD:
Which education path to take?
Which career path to take?
More headaches for parents...
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education-system-must-be-aligned-with-economy-ong-ye-kung
\"The education system needs to be aligned with the structure of the economy, so that people will continue to be armed with the required skills to find jobs in the current age of disruption, Minister for Education (Higher Education and Skills) Ong Ye Kung said yesterday.
In Singapore, this means capping the proportion of graduates in a cohort at about 30 per cent to 40 per cent, while training the rest for vocations in various industries...\"
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/fresh-grad-hopes-to-earn-2500-a-month
\"He started looking for jobs in March and has sent out about 40 resumes to companies looking for sales, accounting, human resource and finance staff.
He has gone for three interviews so far, with two human resource companies and a local bank...\"
one thing striked in the article -
skills gotta be part of the change in globalization
was reading an article about how Hong kong had deteriorated, because HK was trying to maintain status quo of pre 1997, before China takeover. Now that China is wealthy, became a super-power, superior in skills and languages and taking over Hongkong's Top jobs ....
anyway, bank teller jobs, insurance, construction workers, accountants jobs, traditional taxi drivers : no more (into the future), leading to massive, global unemployment crisis worldwide
Singapore :
is one of the first countries, to place automated self-drive taxi, on the road :-
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-25/world-s-first-self-driving-taxis-debut-in-Singapore
Which industry will survive?
maybe food & beverage industry, because people still need to eat
https://www.fastcompany.com/3067279/you-didnt-see-this-coming-10-jobs-that-will-be-replaced-by-robots -
isetan:
It will just simply encourage more mid tier students to go overseas for their further education.
will the government give more grant to students studying in overseas uni?
Many families cannot afford that.
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