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    [PSLE MT] PSLE less weightage in Chinese / Mother Tongue

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    • M Offline
      minnie2004
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      verykiasu2010:
      tamarind:



      I have never learned Chinese by remembering the individual strokes. I take a photograph of each word and stores it in my brain. When I need to read or write a Chinese word, I just pull out the photograph from the \"database\" in my brain.

      Actually many young kids have learned to read English by sight words. That is, they don't know any phonics, but they are still able to remember how to read hundreds of English words. If you ask them to spell the word, they don't know. But if you show them the English word, they can read it. For example, the word \"dog\". They remember the shape of the word, the \"g\" looks like the dog's tail, so they know how to read it. They have actually taken a photograph of the English word and store it in their brains. They don't remember the individual letters. This should be the method used to learn Chinese. (Though phonics is the more efficient way to learn English)

      Those who think that a child should learn Chinese by memorizing the individual strokes are using the wrong methods.

      I believe that the large majority of kids age 6 and below have the ability to learn both English and Chinese words by sight very quickly. But as they grow older, they slowly lose this ability.

      the basics of the chinese word characters are usually & mostly made up of component parts each has a meaning and making up the word meaning with the composite meanings of the parts

      kids given right approach will be interested to find out more and learn more and build interest in the language from there

      there is a kindergarten in town with chinese teachers who do that from K1 onward, rather effective; but alas the environment in SG does not cultivate this kind of teachers in numbers

      That's what I've been trying to do w/ my DD. Since one of her enrichment class teachers introduced word recognition by radicals, her ability in recognizing characters jumped sharply. e.g. for the word 晴, the left side reprensents the meaning while the right part represents the sound. Then we'll go through the dictionary together to find out other words w/ the same radicals. That's how we make learning (and teaching) Chinese more interesting.

      I just ordered 四五快读 recommended by tamarind which is just what I need to teach my kids Chinese at home in a systematic way. I'm looking forward to start this Chinese \"I can read\" program w/ my kids soon. Thanks tamarind for introducing these books to us :celebrate:

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        tamarind
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        minnie2004:

        That's what I've been trying to do w/ my DD. Since one of her enrichment class teachers introduced word recognition by radicals, her ability in recognizing characters jumped sharply. e.g. for the word 晴, the left side reprensents the meaning while the right part represents the sound. Then we'll go through the dictionary together to find out other words w/ the same radicals. That's how we make learning (and teaching) Chinese more interesting.

        I just ordered 四五快读 recommended by tamarind which is just what I need to teach my kids Chinese at home in a systematic way. I'm looking forward to start this Chinese \"I can read\" program w/ my kids soon. Thanks tamarind for introducing these books to us :celebrate:
        minnie2004,
        You are welcome 😄

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          caroline3sg
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          tamarind:
          I think the government is trying too hard to please all parties. Why not just make one of those top secondary schools ignore the Chinese grades ? For example, NUS High School should take in students who are very good in English, Maths and Science, and ignore their grades for Chinese. Then all those who are not good in Chinese can go to NUS High School, while the rest of the top schools still take in students who are good in 2 languages. Then those who complain have no reason to migrate.


          It is not possible to please every one. The only way is to give everyone a freedom of choice. Since some people do not think that Chinese is important, then they don't need to study so hard for Chinese, it is their choice and we should not not waste time trying to convince them.

          NUS High already take in students who are good in EMS.
          The camp pro MT reduce weightage are those who want to go to RI/RGS. Although I do not have statistics to back my claim.

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            tamarind
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            caroline3sg:
            tamarind:

            I think the government is trying too hard to please all parties. Why not just make one of those top secondary schools ignore the Chinese grades ? For example, NUS High School should take in students who are very good in English, Maths and Science, and ignore their grades for Chinese. Then all those who are not good in Chinese can go to NUS High School, while the rest of the top schools still take in students who are good in 2 languages. Then those who complain have no reason to migrate.


            It is not possible to please every one. The only way is to give everyone a freedom of choice. Since some people do not think that Chinese is important, then they don't need to study so hard for Chinese, it is their choice and we should not not waste time trying to convince them.


            NUS High already take in students who are good in EMS.
            The camp pro MT reduce weightage are those who want to go to RI/RGS. Although I do not have statistics to back my claim.

            My goodness. These people are asking for too much !!! Isn't NUS High School prestigious enough ?

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              minnie2004
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              csc:
              [quote]And when that angmoh started talking Chinese to you and asking you something about Chinese culture or history, you respond by \"I don't speak Chinese and know nothing about the Tang dynasty or Confucius, b/c I'm SBC\" with your head up, I wonder what the angmoh is going to think.
              Ha...you'll be surprised to know some of these 'angmohs' may not even know the history of Britain or Europe as much as some of us who have studied it during our school days... :lol: Some Americans don't even know who their first President was?

              and I'm not bothered by what 'angmohs' think anyway. 😉[/quote]In fact what's important is not what the angmohs think, it's what we think of ourselves that's what matters. Personally, if I can't conduct a meaningful conversation in Chinese I'd be really ashamed of myself as a Chinese. Then again, there're people who're proud of their inabilility to speak Chinese.

              I once met a lady (presumably Singaporean Chinese judging from her accent) during a visit to an int'l school. She's the admission officer. While trying to sell their Chinese program in her school, she pointed to a bunch of blue eyed blonde hair angmoh kids just passing by and said their Eng. is even better than hers! My DH, who's an overseas Chinese who grew up in the States, was surprised to see there're still people who are proud to say they can't speak Chinese. But she's hardly the only one.

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                shine
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                HyperKiasu:

                虽然与一般新加坡孩子一样,英语比华语说得好,但林晨阳笑着说:“我会预先做好准备,让全世界知道新加坡人的华语其实没有他们想象中差!”   
                His standard of Chinese will definitely improve, as he's immersed in the environment. My friend's children English very good but Chinese standard not fantastic, studied in China for a few years due to parent's China posting. They came back with excellent command of Chinese.

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                  Brenda10
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                  shine:
                  HyperKiasu:


                  虽然与一般新加坡孩子一样,英语比华语说得好,但林晨阳笑着说:“我会预先做好准备,让全世界知道新加坡人的华语其实没有他们想象中差!”   

                  His standard of Chinese will definitely improve, as he's immersed in the environment. My friend's children English very good but Chinese standard not fantastic, studied in China for a few years due to parent's China posting. They came back with excellent command of Chinese.

                  If the child watches the CL shows/news daily, 习惯成自然, no preparation is required for CL听力考试. Same goes to reading of CL story books then, 听写/默写 would also be much easier. 效果事半功倍

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                    corneyAmber
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                    Brenda10:
                    shine:

                    [quote=\"HyperKiasu\"]
                    虽然与一般新加坡孩子一样,英语比华语说得好,但林晨阳笑着说:“我会预先做好准备,让全世界知道新加坡人的华语其实没有他们想象中差!”   

                    His standard of Chinese will definitely improve, as he's immersed in the environment. My friend's children English very good but Chinese standard not fantastic, studied in China for a few years due to parent's China posting. They came back with excellent command of Chinese.

                    If the child watches the CL shows/news daily, 习惯成自然, no preparation is required for CL听力考试. Same goes to reading of CL story books then, 听写/默写 would also be much easier. 效果事半功倍[/quote]Actually those children who are not focusing on learning Chinese are probably investing their time in other ways, hence they can claim that they are so excellent in those areas and learning Chinese becomes a problem. Also this investment of time has to start from young like all their other talents...

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                      dimsum
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                      杨君伟 had organised the below rally this coming Sunday. Please provide your support!


                      http://blog.omy.sg/dannyyeo/archives/3152

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                        HyperKiasu
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                        Is the theme \"Happy Mother's Day, Preserve Mother Tongue\"....? :dancing: :?

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