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    Presidential Elections 2017

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    • P Offline
      pirate
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      Dun understand what is the point of saying that TT is not infallible. Even GKS and LKY were fallible. 🤷


      Also dun think that it is President's job to manage the reserves. President's job is to say yea or nay if gov wants to spend from reserve. President cannot tell GIC or Temasek to invest in or not to invest in this or that.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
        lee_yl
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        pirate:
        Dun understand what is the point of saying that TT is not infallible. Even GKS and LKY were fallible. 🤷


        Also dun think that it is President's job to manage the reserves. President's job is to say yea or nay if gov wants to spend from reserve. President cannot tell GIC or Temasek to invest in or not to invest in this or that.
        Likewise, there's no need to sing TT's praises to the sky. Always good to have multiple perspectives.

        President's role is quite limited. In theory, yes, President can say no if our govt wants to spend from reserves but in reality, don't think any president had said no to such requests before. 😆

        President definitely cannot tell GIC or Temasek what to invest but TT was still in GIC when the UBS episode happened.

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        • P Offline
          pirate
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          Who is singing TT's praises to high heaven in this forum? :?

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          • janet88J Offline
            janet88
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            pirate:
            Who is singing TT's praises to high heaven in this forum? :?

            Gosh, does he have any praise to sing about? :faint: so happy don't have to see him waving at next year's NDP.

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              limlim
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              Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

              Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?

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                Zappy
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                limlim:
                Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

                Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?
                Dr Ng Eng Hen said: \"There was no preferential treatment given to Patrick Tan, or any other individual who has disrupted, because of their 'connections'. Let me emphasise to all, including commanders on the ground, that no NS man should be accorded preferential treatment.\"

                Minister say ... must be correct la. Just like how Singapore should have a reserved election now. How can it be wrong?

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                  pirate
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                  TT contesting in this PE? Why waste time on him?


                  I am not particularly bothered about reserved elections. I am bothered about the blatantly unfair (but transparent!) criteria for private sector candidates compared to the ridiculously low criteria for public sector candidates such as ex speaker of Parliament.

                  Frankly I see no reason for increasing it to 500m save to blatantly tilt the playing field in favor of anointed ones.

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                    mum_sugoku
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                    Zappy:
                    limlim:

                    Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

                    Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?

                    Dr Ng Eng Hen said: \"There was no preferential treatment given to Patrick Tan, or any other individual who has disrupted, because of their 'connections'. Let me emphasise to all, including commanders on the ground, that no NS man should be accorded preferential treatment.\"

                    Minister say ... must be correct la. Just like how Singapore should have a reserved election now. How can it be wrong?

                    Plus, besides Dr Ng, his colleague Cedric Foo had also famously said that \"..the White Horse classification is not to ensure that sons of influential men gets preferential treatment. Instead it is to ensure that they do not get preferential treatment.” :evil:

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                      mum_sugoku
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                      pirate:
                      TT contesting in this PE? Why waste time on him?


                      I am not particularly bothered about reserved elections. I am bothered about the blatantly unfair (but transparent!) criteria for private sector candidates compared to the ridiculously low criteria for public sector candidates such as ex speaker of Parliament.

                      Frankly I see no reason for increasing it to 500m save to blatantly tilt the playing field in favor of anointed ones.
                      Ya. In fact, as I see it, isn't the reason for $500m and reserved presidency exactly the same?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporean_presidential_election,_2017[quote]Criticisms[edit]
                      The People's Action Party has been accused of using the Presidential office's imperative of preserving racial peace as a way to circumvent democracy and shore up its political power.[22] The government has relied on a heavily criticised[23] survey jointly conducted by online publication Channel NewsAsia, and National University of Singapore's Institute of Policy Studies, both with ties to the Singapore government, to support its case that Singaporeans are voting along racial lines. This is seen by some as a farcical attempt at combating voters’ racial bias which, at every election, has been proven to have no impact on election results.[24]

                      The reserved Presidential election is also seen as an elaborate plan to block the candidacy of Dr Tan Cheng Bock[25], who lost by a thin margin in the 2011 Presidential elections to Tony Tan Keng Yam, a former deputy prime minister.[22] Some social media users have mockingly referred to the move as “Tan Cheng Block”.[22] The Singapore government has denied the accusation.[22][/quote]

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                        limlim
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                        Has anyone seen the candidate’s IC?


                        Under "Race", is it "Malay" for all of them?

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