Presidential Elections 2017

[limlim]

Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?

[Zappy]

limlim:

Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?

Dr Ng Eng Hen said: \"There was no preferential treatment given to Patrick Tan, or any other individual who has disrupted, because of their 'connections'. Let me emphasise to all, including commanders on the ground, that no NS man should be accorded preferential treatment.\"

Minister say ... must be correct la. Just like how Singapore should have a reserved election now. How can it be wrong?

[pirate]

TT contesting in this PE? Why waste time on him?


I am not particularly bothered about reserved elections. I am bothered about the blatantly unfair (but transparent!) criteria for private sector candidates compared to the ridiculously low criteria for public sector candidates such as ex speaker of Parliament.

Frankly I see no reason for increasing it to 500m save to blatantly tilt the playing field in favor of anointed ones.

[mum_sugoku]

Zappy:

limlim:

Any comment on 12 year NS deferment? First of its kind? Achievement unlocked?

Was it an isolated privileged case or privileged isolated case?

Dr Ng Eng Hen said: \"There was no preferential treatment given to Patrick Tan, or any other individual who has disrupted, because of their 'connections'. Let me emphasise to all, including commanders on the ground, that no NS man should be accorded preferential treatment.\"

Minister say ... must be correct la. Just like how Singapore should have a reserved election now. How can it be wrong?

Plus, besides Dr Ng, his colleague Cedric Foo had also famously said that \"..the White Horse classification is not to ensure that sons of influential men gets preferential treatment. Instead it is to ensure that they do not get preferential treatment.” :evil:

[mum_sugoku]

pirate:

TT contesting in this PE? Why waste time on him?


I am not particularly bothered about reserved elections. I am bothered about the blatantly unfair (but transparent!) criteria for private sector candidates compared to the ridiculously low criteria for public sector candidates such as ex speaker of Parliament.

Frankly I see no reason for increasing it to 500m save to blatantly tilt the playing field in favor of anointed ones.

Ya. In fact, as I see it, isn't the reason for $500m and reserved presidency exactly the same?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporean_presidential_election,_2017[quote]Criticisms[edit]
The People's Action Party has been accused of using the Presidential office's imperative of preserving racial peace as a way to circumvent democracy and shore up its political power.[22] The government has relied on a heavily criticised[23] survey jointly conducted by online publication Channel NewsAsia, and National University of Singapore's Institute of Policy Studies, both with ties to the Singapore government, to support its case that Singaporeans are voting along racial lines. This is seen by some as a farcical attempt at combating voters’ racial bias which, at every election, has been proven to have no impact on election results.[24]

The reserved Presidential election is also seen as an elaborate plan to block the candidacy of Dr Tan Cheng Bock[25], who lost by a thin margin in the 2011 Presidential elections to Tony Tan Keng Yam, a former deputy prime minister.[22] Some social media users have mockingly referred to the move as “Tan Cheng Block”.[22] The Singapore government has denied the accusation.[22][/quote]

[limlim]

Has anyone seen the candidate’s IC?


Under "Race", is it "Malay" for all of them?

[limlim]

mum_sugoku:

Ya. In fact, as I see it, isn't the reason for $500m and reserved presidency exactly the same?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporean_presidential_election,_2017[quote]Criticisms[edit]
The People's Action Party has been accused of using the Presidential office's imperative of preserving racial peace as a way to circumvent democracy and shore up its political power.[22] The government has relied on a heavily criticised[23] survey jointly conducted by online publication Channel NewsAsia, and National University of Singapore's Institute of Policy Studies, both with ties to the Singapore government, to support its case that Singaporeans are voting along racial lines. This is seen by some as a farcical attempt at combating voters’ racial bias which, at every election, has been proven to have no impact on election results.[24]

The reserved Presidential election is also seen as an elaborate plan to block the candidacy of Dr Tan Cheng Bock[25], who lost by a thin margin in the 2011 Presidential elections to Tony Tan Keng Yam, a former deputy prime minister.[22] Some social media users have mockingly referred to the move as “Tan Cheng Block”.[22] The Singapore government has denied the accusation.[22]

[/quote]Somehow, if the reason for \"reserved Presidential election\" is because [quote]Singaporeans are voting along racial lines[/quote] then shouldn't the count for the no. of EP consider only nationwide election only and exclude closed door electing?

Meaning OTC is the first EP instead of WKW when counting the no. of EPs.

Just declare OTC as the 1st EP instead of WKW and it will silence the critics, wouldn't it? So why don't they do it..

Unless....

[pirate]

limlim:

Just declare OTC as the 1st EP instead of WKW and it will silence the critics, wouldn't it? So why don't they do it..
Unless....

The financial experience criterion will still knock TCB out. So, no.

I am not bothered about reserved PE because whatever crap it entails, the crap applies to all candidates.

The financial experience criterion, however, like I said in an earlier post, is like private sector candidates need T-score 280+ to qualify while the affiliated one needs only T-score 200. They are not even in the same ballpark. To add insult to injury, Speaker of Parliament is not even a civil service appointment. It is a political appointment. And some candidate got the cheek to say that it is ok because the criteria are \"transparent\". Never mind that the criteria are transparently unfair.

I am bothered about that because this particular crap will be perpetuated down all future PE.

[cool_hi]

pirate:

limlim:

Just declare OTC as the 1st EP instead of WKW and it will silence the critics, wouldn't it? So why don't they do it..
Unless....

The financial experience criterion will still knock TCB out. So, no.

I am not bothered about reserved PE because whatever crap it entails, the crap applies to all candidates.

The financial experience criterion, however, like I said in an earlier post, is like private sector candidates need T-score 280+ to qualify while the affiliated one needs only T-score 200. They are not even in the same ballpark. To add insult to injury, Speaker of Parliament is not even a civil service appointment. It is a political appointment. And some candidate got the cheek to say that it is ok because the criteria are \"transparent\". Never mind that the criteria are transparently unfair.

I am bothered about that because this particular crap will be perpetuated down all future PE.

Transparent?!?
think they need go back to primary school to learn \"material\" topic in science & take psle again...?? :rotflmao:

[floppy]

pirate:

To add insult to injury, Speaker of Parliament is not even a civil service appointment. It is a political appointment.

Not many people will understand that.

Everyone should just vote for Madame President because she is the most qualified (because the rules say so and the Party has already spoken).