Presidential Elections 2017
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janet88:
But isn't HDB a pride of Singapore? :evil:
the highest office in singapore chose to reside in her HDB...it just doesn't make sense because a carpark has limited lots and if president requires an entourage of security officers, it is of extreme inconvenience to residents everyday for 6 years. staying in an hdb flat is not disgraceful but the logic of president doing so doesn't make sense at all.
since she decided to run for presidency, she should prepare to make some sacrifices.
just day 2 of her new position, a WHITE awning has been installed. the first thing i thought of was a funeral. what if there is a funeral taking place, the security officers will be kept busy with the people visiting the wake? if the president needs to leave the house in the morning, it will be very inconvenient on the day of the funeral.
Anyway, they can easily outright book the HDB void for 6 years straight. So no issues on anyone using that space for whatever purposes (read: Not available to anyone else). And all neighboring void deck as well. So no worries.. your concerns are unfounded. -
janet88:
https://publichouse.sg/please-move-into-the-istana-mdm-halimah-dont-do-a-melania-trump/
she wants to stay in her HDB because she is afraid of being bitten by people who will ask why isn't she living there...but her action is selfish because it is very inconvenient for the residents. i am sure the cabinet can easily find her a landed house so as not to disturb the peace. don't wayang at everyone's expense.ammonite:
Everything that we can see, she can also see. Everything we can count, she can also count. It takes a certain personality to stay in politics that long.
So the real reason for staying put ... not wanting to make known the private properties her family hold? Maintain image? PR exercise? :scratchhead:
I doubt the wayang will last. -
mum_sugoku:
One thing I have been wondering..
Maid is not the same old maid, restaurant owner is not the same old owner, lawyer is not the same old lawyer; the current ones are from an entirely different generation.
It's the older generation who earned the credit; the current generation are merely here to reap the benefit of (or worse, undoing) their predecessors' hard work.
How many of the current leaders are Geppers, how many of them have gone thru tons of tuition and enrichment (and GEP prep classes) to achieve what they achieved today?
Have one ever wondered, how many scholars are engineered, and not gifted.
Look at the decision and choices that leaders made.. are they really talents or can be classified as talents? Can they really solve difficult problems or be relied upon to solve problems?
How many got to where they are w/o tuition or enrichment (or GEP prep), but because they are naturally gifted?
In other words, how many \"talents\" are actually born, and not engineered?
Can engineered talents be trusted to lead in the next generation and make the right decision? -
ammonite:
You were a tad slow there. :imanangel:Pirate, I was finally sitting down and eating my lunch when I realised our - I mean OUR - big mistake!! I cannot believe what we were cyber pondering upon!! Tak boleh, friend!! She helps to safeguard our national piggy bank leh!! And she has been judged and certified more able in this aspect than people who manage over $200 million etc. So how can we minions doubt that she is not good with finance? No wonder I have been judged too stupid to vote.
This will teach me not to post when I am low on sugar. :spank: -
pirate:
I was crawling with a hungry stomach...#stupidpeoplecannotvote
You were a tad slow there. :imanangel:ammonite:
Pirate, I was finally sitting down and eating my lunch when I realised our - I mean OUR - big mistake!! I cannot believe what we were cyber pondering upon!! Tak boleh, friend!! She helps to safeguard our national piggy bank leh!! And she has been judged and certified more able in this aspect than people who manage over $200 million etc. So how can we minions doubt that she is not good with finance? No wonder I have been judged too stupid to vote.
This will teach me not to post when I am low on sugar. :spank: -
Madam President, it’s time to move out; either you suffer higher security risks or taxpayers must pay for costlier protection
We get it. Absent an election, the next best way to demonstrate you are the people’s president is by living as they do—in a HDB flat. The only problem? Mdm Halimah Yacob lives in two where most of us only have one. The people are not amused. We know a farce when we see one. 97% of Mdm Halimah’s own race (Malay?) cannot afford to own a jumbo flat or better. The figure is 95% for Indians and 78% for Chinese (General House Survey 2015).
The first farce was the use of unreasonable eligibility criteria to disqualify all other candidates, effectively turning the election into appointment-by-criteria. We, the people, feel we have been robbed of our vote. We wonder if the PAP has pursued its own political interests at the cost of the nation’s founding ideals of meritocracy and multiracialism. And we suspect that Mdm Halimah will be no less pliant that previous appointed presidents, or presidents the PAP supported.
Rather than address those issues, Mdm Halimah now seems intent on perpetuating the farce that she is the people’s president. But her decision to continue living in her jumbo flat is likely to impose significant costs on the very people she claims to be serving.
Living in her HDB flat does not mean that the Istana no longer needs to be maintained. It doesn’t mean that taxpayers no longer have to fund the security services required to protect Mdm Halimah. No, it simply means that the effort must now be doubled. Mdm Halimah’s protection detail must work overtime to secure two instead of one estate.
More at https://www.prolificskins.com/forum/current-affairs/open-letter-dear-halimah-yacob-please-move-out -
limlim:
thank goodness i don't live near her.
But isn't HDB a pride of Singapore? :evil:
Anyway, they can easily outright book the HDB void for 6 years straight. So no issues on anyone using that space for whatever purposes (read: Not available to anyone else). And all neighboring void deck as well. So no worries.. your concerns are unfounded. -
limlim:
(OT)
One thing I have been wondering..mum_sugoku:
Maid is not the same old maid, restaurant owner is not the same old owner, lawyer is not the same old lawyer; the current ones are from an entirely different generation.
It's the older generation who earned the credit; the current generation are merely here to reap the benefit of (or worse, undoing) their predecessors' hard work.
How many of the current leaders are Geppers, how many of them have gone thru tons of tuition and enrichment (and GEP prep classes) to achieve what they achieved today?
Have one ever wondered, how many scholars are engineered, and not gifted.
Look at the decision and choices that leaders made.. are they really talents or can be classified as talents? Can they really solve difficult problems or be relied upon to solve problems?
How many got to where they are w/o tuition or enrichment (or GEP prep), but because they are naturally gifted?
In other words, how many \"talents\" are actually born, and not engineered?
Can engineered talents be trusted to lead in the next generation and make the right decision?
I remember that few years ago, our PM welcomed former top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow's clarification on some comments he (Ngiam) made in an interview in the Singapore Medical Association's newsletter:
http://www.asiaone.com/singapore/ngiam-tong-dow-clarifies-remarks-pm-welcomes-it[quote]...The interview in the September edition of SMA News focused on health care, but was widely circulated online for the comments on politics and the civil service. In the interview, Mr Ngiam said that any minister who wants to disagree with the Prime Minister \"will hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary\", and that the civil service had become tamer, resulting in less contestation of ideas.[/quote]
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limlim:
Engineered same as nurtured?
In other words, how many \"talents\" are actually born, and not engineered?
Can engineered talents be trusted to lead in the next generation and make the right decision?
Is leadership a borned talent or learned through experience/exposure? -
Angelsdontexist:
You had provided a broken link and you had shortened content of the actual messageMadam President, it’s time to move out; either you suffer higher security risks or taxpayers must pay for costlier protection
We get it. Absent an election, the next best way to demonstrate you are the people’s president is by living as they do—in a HDB flat. The only problem? Mdm Halimah Yacob lives in two where most of us only have one. The people are not amused. We know a farce when we see one. 97% of Mdm Halimah’s own race (Malay?) cannot afford to own a jumbo flat or better. The figure is 95% for Indians and 78% for Chinese (General House Survey 2015).
The first farce was the use of unreasonable eligibility criteria to disqualify all other candidates, effectively turning the election into appointment-by-criteria. We, the people, feel we have been robbed of our vote. We wonder if the PAP has pursued its own political interests at the cost of the nation’s founding ideals of meritocracy and multiracialism. And we suspect that Mdm Halimah will be no less pliant that previous appointed presidents, or presidents the PAP supported.
Rather than address those issues, Mdm Halimah now seems intent on perpetuating the farce that she is the people’s president. But her decision to continue living in her jumbo flat is likely to impose significant costs on the very people she claims to be serving.
Living in her HDB flat does not mean that the Istana no longer needs to be maintained. It doesn’t mean that taxpayers no longer have to fund the security services required to protect Mdm Halimah. No, it simply means that the effort must now be doubled. Mdm Halimah’s protection detail must work overtime to secure two instead of one estate.
More at https://www.prolificskins.com/forum/current-affairs/open-letter-dear-halimah-yacob-please-move-out
Here is the correct link :-
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2017/09/18/madam-president-its-time-to-move-out-either-you-suffer-higher-security-risks-or-taxpayers-must-pay-for-costlier-protection/
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