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    • S Offline
      spring
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      buds:

      Nope, it ain't gonna be in the west anymore hun..
      I'm going to really miss being a westie.
      I find that i have everything here in the west side, minus the crowd.
      And i do like it like that.. well moving on does have its sacrifices lah..
      So, i hope this move will do me and my family some good. :love:
      Im sure u wld hav made a gd choice. πŸ˜‰ But yea...guess u will need times to adapt to a new environment.

      buds:
      I'm afraid my answer wud be yes.. too early. You see, spring.. i have not personally assessed her to know or to be able to properly advise you that moving on to the 3-letter stage is a good go-ahead as of now. I cannot personally tell if she is truly ready.. plus, yeah.. she is only 30mths now.

      Cos when children move ahead prior to perfecting the initial basic skills well,it may show later, the repercussions of the lapses of what the child may havemissed out on and it wud be very very challenging to back-track or worse πŸ™touch wood.. to re-teach the basics all over again. By then, the child wud hv the ability to read more words, longer words and more difficult words & thu would not be open to go back to the \"baby\" stages. There will be some resistance and wud prove to be detrimental to the child's progress (in some cases slow them down..) from then on and may also make the child lose the interest somewhat, in building up the reading skills. It will not be fair to the child if this happens.

      For now though, what can be done is to tap on the listening skills. During
      daily routine insert impromptu exercises of listening to sounds in words..
      Like for example, when taking the bus.. you may wonder aloud.. \"Hmm...
      wonder what sounds are in the word b-u-s.. do you know? Cos i can only
      hear /s/..\" Or... hey, do you think the baby will be a baby brother for you
      or a baby (s-i-s)... /s/... /i/.. /s/? Work on simple words that you encounter or use everyday, like a stroll in the park and you see a cat... use that as a spontaneous sound-listening-skill. Or even m-u-m or d-a-d.. :love:

      This activity will indirectly & eventually assist the child in the blending of 3
      letter words and above plus provides the skill for the child to decode sounds in many many other words independently.

      Other areas to work on would be soft skills and pre-writing skills.
      Don't lose out on this. Reading is only part of what the child has to learn
      in his or her life. Expose and encourage children to do a host of other kiddie activity as well... and do remember to give them some time to sweat it outdoors too. πŸ˜‰
      Thank you buds for tis informative advice. πŸ˜„ things u mention really does make sense. I wouldnt want my dd to lose interests in reading! It does sound scary. :scared:

      Will try out e activities on tapping on e listening skill. It does sound more appropriate for her age now. hehe.... :ugogirl:

      Hmmm... soft skills? Actually wad r they huh? :? U mean e.g social skill, selp help skill? Craft work like tearing, pasting, colouring n cutting, r they consider as prewriting skills? Im doin quite alot of tat with my dd, n also finger tracing of letters, n now she has started to trace letters with crayons. πŸ˜„ anymore activities u wld suggest on improving e writing skill? :

      buds:
      I will PM you the details okie? πŸ˜‰
      Okie.... U pm me ya.... 😎

      buds:
      This is a fantastic display of interest! Build on it and it will bear fantastic results!
      πŸ˜„ :thankyou:

      buds:
      Ask her if you cud hold both your fingers together (yours and hers) when
      pointing. You may show her different sets of books ie. For example, you
      compromise that she can do the pretend pointing when reading her all
      time favourite books, but she needs to follow your finger when you
      read with her your readers collection.. say mebbe Peter and Jane
      series and the likes..

      When she points, you may ask her like...
      \"Which word says clever, darling? Can you point to the word for mummy...\"

      As opposed to...
      \"Hey, that's wrong! That's not the word clever you're pointing to! Here!
      I show you! THIS is clever.\"

      Can you sense / see the difference... πŸ˜„
      Okie... i will try when she tries to pretending reading again. For now, i hav not read to her any readers collection. Do u tink i can try e peter n jane series to her? Must she knows word blending before i can read to her e sight word method using e peter n jane series? Or any other readers u wld recommend for her age?

      buds:
      If only you stay nearer, mebbe got chance. πŸ˜‰

      Thanks for your compliments. :love:

      I am still learning.. :celebrate:

      U make me v curious of ware u r staying.
      Care to share? πŸ˜‰

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        buds
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        spring:
        Im sure u wld hav made a gd choice. πŸ˜‰ But yea...guess u will need times to adapt to a new environment.

        Adapting to the environment part, i know i can handle. What i cannot
        envision is the daily cycle of sending the girls to school to and fro! :!:
        Not planning to change schools for them unless if really terribly forced
        to make that decision..

        We'll see.. :xedfingers:
        spring:
        Thank you buds for tis informative advice. πŸ˜„ things u mention really does make sense. I wouldnt want my dd to lose interests in reading! It does sound scary. :scared:
        Once again, you're welcome. :hugs: I suppose i can make sense of it as i
        have seen children fall back into a distant level of interest when this skill
        is tackled inappropriately and though i cud reduce the damage when i
        troubleshoot it, a lot of precious time is wasted back tracking and re-
        learning, whereas it cud have been done right from when it first began.
        spring:
        Will try out e activities on tapping on e listening skill. It does sound more appropriate for her age now. hehe.... :ugogirl:
        Actually it is the most appropriate exercise to do right after perfecting the
        single letter sounds stage. Also ensure your girl knows which letter each
        sound represents when you pronounce any sound to her. If she oredi
        knows how to write or trace even better.. can get her to write the letter of
        the sound you say out to her. πŸ˜‰ Very helpful for future verbal and
        written spelling skills as the child can distinguish between letter names and
        letter sounds and also know each corresponding letter shapes at an instant!

        Just to let you in on something.. i'm currently helping a fren to sell off her
        Large Moveable Alphabet (A Montessori Material) used during Montessori
        Phonics lessons. It aids the child in recognizing letter shapes with given
        corresponding letter sounds. The LMA can also be used for those listening
        skill activities i shared in my previous post. πŸ˜‰

        You may ask the child to pick out the letter that makes the sound /b/ as in
        the beginning sound of bus... then ask her to listen to other sounds in the
        word bus... after she manages to pick up all three letters from the LMA, u
        show her how individual letter sounds put together can make a word. πŸ˜„

        We use this in our classrooms up till Blends and reading up to 6-letter
        phonetic words like your nick for example... spr-ing! You can check out
        the material here at this link! πŸ˜‰ > http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10176

        Let me know if you are keen. Specially for you, i will include a freebie item
        as well, if you decide to purchase the item from me.. Great for your girl and
        can keep for when your #2 grows a lil' older too.. :love:
        spring:
        Hmmm... soft skills? Actually wad r they huh? :? U mean e.g social skill, selp help skill? Craft work like tearing, pasting, colouring n cutting, r they consider as prewriting skills? Im doin quite alot of tat with my dd, n also finger tracing of letters, n now she has started to trace letters with crayons. πŸ˜„ anymore activities u wld suggest on improving e writing skill?
        Yes Yes! Soft skills like saying please and thank you, table manners, setting
        the table.. sorting cutlery.. She can use her dolls or teddies to organize a tea
        party and tackle social attributes in an inviting set up. Uh-oh.. teddie spilled
        his tea? What should we do? Is teddie a bad bear, should we scold him or
        how can we teach teddie to be more careful... Or monkey is naughty, always
        bullying the other animal friends.. How can we help teach monkey to be at his
        best behaviour? (etc)

        Activities that strengthens finger muscles and the pincer grip for writing can
        be using the scissors.. sorting colour balls using a spoon.. learning to use a
        chopstick.. picking up stamps using a small tweezer.. pegging clothings..
        (etc) πŸ˜‰

        If you have sand, moist it and put it in a box or container and get her to
        trace alphabet shapes in it, apart from the typical pencil or crayon and
        paper.. Use play dough to curve little roll-outs into letter shapes.. (etc)

        Veggie stamps you can create with potatoes and carrots with either letter
        shapes, simple shapes (square, triangle, circle & rectangle) that you can
        use with paint or even cut out sponges too!

        The possibilities are endless really! :celebrate:
        spring:
        Okie... i will try when she tries to pretending reading again. For now, i hav not read to her any readers collection. Do u tink i can try e peter n jane series to her? Must she knows word blending before i can read to her e sight word method using e peter n jane series? Or any other readers u wld recommend for her age?
        It can wait till mebbe when she's 3 or 3.5yrs.. but if you think she is mature
        enuf to handle such readers go ahead. Different children have different
        temperaments hence there is no hard and fast rule to age introduction..

        Readers are repetitive and work on the sight words. There are many in the
        market other than Peter & Jane these days.. you'll be spoilt for choice.
        buds:
        If only you stay nearer, mebbe got chance. πŸ˜‰

        Thanks for your compliments. :love:

        I am still learning.. :celebrate:
        spring:
        U make me v curious of ware u r staying.
        Care to share? πŸ˜‰
        Okie dokie, sure thing! πŸ˜‰

        I'm still looking for some stuff to show you on how you cud
        move on from the Letterland phonics and have yet to find
        them.. sollie. :salute: Hope i can dig it out soon. :oops:

        Keep in touch & you take care.. :hugs:

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          spring
          last edited by

          The LMA seems like gd stuff! 😎 But is ur fren willing to lower e price to ard $120? I cant see e picture clearly. R u able to send e pic to my email?


          Wow.... u really does hav los of ideas of improving writing skills! :ugogirl: Especially e one of collecting sand in a box, nv tot of tat before. For using chopsticks, my dd is recently keen on learning also, may i know hw shd i teach her on tis? Also for e veggie stamp, u mean cutting e carrot or potato into e specific lette shape?

          Also, regarding e letter sound of 'a' n 'e', 'c' n 'k', lookin forward to ur pm soon ya.... πŸ˜‰

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            buds
            last edited by

            spring:
            The LMA seems like gd stuff! 😎 But is ur fren willing to lower e price to ard $120? I cant see e picture clearly. R u able to send e pic to my email?

            I've asked her liao.. She's willing to part @ SGD $130.00 when i mentioned
            you bought from me before. If you can self-collect better, so will not incur
            any delivery costs.. but no freebie item la for this discount. Sollie. :salute:

            PM your email address and i will send the same picture to you. No problem.
            spring:
            Wow.... u really does hav los of ideas of improving writing skills! :ugogirl: Especially e one of collecting sand in a box, nv tot of tat before.
            Ideas are built up over time. πŸ˜‰ You would have too! By the time you
            have your baby #2 you would have accumulated ideas enough to run yer
            own class! πŸ˜„
            spring:
            For using chopsticks, my dd is recently keen on learning also, may i know hw shd i teach her on tis?
            You can read my article on it at this link here. πŸ˜‰
            > http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3607&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
            spring:
            Also for e veggie stamp, u mean cutting e carrot or potato into e specific lette shape?
            For carrot and potato stamps i suggest shapes as in 2D shapes like circle,
            triangle, square, (etc) cos not too much trouble to cut. For letter shapes,
            better with sponges. Easier to cut.
            spring:
            Also, regarding e letter sound of 'a' n 'e', 'c' n 'k', lookin forward to ur pm soon ya.... πŸ˜‰
            Ok, can. I PM-ed it to another forumer before . Will try to scour my over
            loaded inbox to see whom i sent it too and will forward it to you. Cos she
            broached the same questions you had in mind. πŸ˜„

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              spring
              last edited by

              Hey buds....



              I had replied to ur pm. Once again..... sorry for e late reply. :imsorry:

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                pummanuel
                last edited by

                Hi Buds and Spring, I'm a SAHM too :celebrate: and read with interest the exchanges on Letterland.


                I toyed with the idea of homeschooling my girl once when we were based in China and scoured through tons of homeschooling articles then. In a twist of fate, we relocated back to Singapore but my homeschooling-research has enabled me to arrive on a conclusion - I will let my girl learn phonics. 😎 As such, I chose a preschool which teaches phonics using Letterland.

                I totally second with Buds that it will be better to teach the names of the alphabets before introducing the sounds of the alphabets. As my girl's first language is Chinese, she was totally impervious to English, even ABC, when I tried to introduce the language to her when she turned 2. Things didn't help that we were in a totally Chinese environment. I just let it go and thought she will pick it up in preschool. To my surprise, as all of her classmates came well-versed in ABC, and my girl could parrot after her classmates, her teachers focused more on the sounds of the alphabets. And in due time, when I tried to teach her to write or read, she would only recognise the sounds but not the names. I tried to teach her the names but she was resistant, telling me 'This is not what the teacher taught.' 😒 Thankfully, one day I chanced on her singing the evergreen ABCD song (in the Twinkle Twinkle Little Star tune) that her friend taught her. I made use of it and taught her the names of the alphabets using the Letterland Frieze.

                However, after several months, it will still take her a moment to remember some of the names as opposed to the sounds. I found that children who learnt the names first will have less of such a problem, i.e they can remember both names and sounds better.

                And to sidetrack a bit, as I was keen to be part of her learning process, I tried to buy Letterland products (to learn phonics by myself) through the UK distributor and was told to refer to Francis. I went to his office and he patiently went through with me a range of Letterland products. According to him, Tumble Tots used to own the distribution rights and the Tumble Tots operations but as another company bought over Tumble Tots, the previous company owns only Letterland distribution rights now but they are still sharing the same office.

                I like the Letterland frieze very much and bought a GBC laminating machine just for it. (Having promotion at Popular now @ 1/3 of the price I paid) The frieze now decorates the wall of my foyer and greets every guest when they come into the house. I also bought an easel white cum chalk board when I realised my girl was into writing. She would trace on the frieze and write on papers. To make writing and reading fun for her, I will also let her write on the cement staircase landing outside, a bit like my kampong days, but I will scrub the floor after the exercise. I even came up with the excuse if anybody complained 'I'm practising drawing the rangoli for Deepavali.' :lol:

                As Buds mentioned, Letterland is great on introducing individual letter sounds but for blending, I adopted the method that Tamarind recommended. However, for some of the digraphs like sh, wr, ow, aw, I will use the Letterland stories as my girl can co-relate better. Like many experts here mentioned, there is no hard and fast way to teach phonics. For a self taught mother, I learnt through a mix and match way and imparted the knowledge to my girl in the same fashion. As Comrade Deng Xiaoping said, be it black cat or white cat, any cat that can catch a mouse is a good cat.

                Pummanuel

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                  badgal
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                  Hi mummies


                  My ger is currently learng letterland phonics in sch. She’ll b 3 yrs old tis yr. Teacher at sch is teachg them the names of the alphabets nw & their sound, like Jumping Jim says jer. Guess next yr when she’s in nursery, the teacher will then teach them blendg of words.

                  If I were to send my ger to montersori phonics class nw, will the 2 methods confuse the kids?

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                    buds
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                    badgal:
                    Hi mummies


                    My ger is currently learng letterland phonics in sch. She'll b 3 yrs old tis yr. Teacher at sch is teachg them the names of the alphabets nw & their sound, like Jumping Jim says jer.
                    Jumping Jim should say j-uh instead of jer. πŸ˜„
                    Click link to hear the sound. > http://www.starfall.com/n/level-k/letter-j/load.htm?f

                    Yes, LETTERLAND introduces characters to the
                    letter names (ABCs) and each character says
                    a special sound in words. πŸ˜‰ It's a fun way
                    or approach to learning phonetic sounds esp 4
                    young children. πŸ˜„
                    badgal:
                    Guess next yr when she's in nursery, the teacher will then teach them blendg of words.
                    Yes, you should be right about that. Next step is indeed blending of sounds.
                    badgal:
                    If I were to send my ger to montersori phonics class nw, will the 2 methods confuse the kids?
                    Montessori Phonics' blending is more straightforward as compared to the
                    Letterland way that has stories to complement the sound combinations tt
                    they introduce. If by then your child is 4+ yrs old and mature enough to
                    exclude/ignore the Letterland characters when you ask for the sound of
                    a letter you've shown her, then it should be fine. The association of the
                    Letterland characters complement their story focus and makes it more
                    fun & supposedly easier for children to remember. However, that said...
                    children should be also ideally be able to identify sounds of the alphabets
                    without the need to include the character names to them.

                    May i inquire the need to send your girl to a Montessori Phonics class if
                    the school your girl is attending will be teaching the complete Letterland
                    Phonics curriculum?

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                      badgal
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                      Hello buds

                      My ger is wif Pat's nw. I dunno if she'll be learning the complete letterland phonics curriculum coz I neber really ask her teacher :oops: . So I tot mayb I can send her to montessori to reinforce watever is taught in Pat's. πŸ˜„
                      I read Tamarind's blog & tot the montessori enrichment class she sent her DD to seems v gd wif blendg words. tot mayb thru montessori, I can expose my ger to further aspects of phonics tat letterland is lacking? On the other hand, was oso thinkg mayb both Letterland & montessori can compliment her learning curve in phonics. Think I kiasu champion liao

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                        buds
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                        badgal:
                        Hello buds. My ger is wif Pat's nw. I dunno if she'll be learning the complete letterland phonics curriculum coz I neber really ask her teacher :oops:.

                        Mebbe you can ask so at least you know. πŸ˜‰
                        badgal:
                        So I tot mayb I can send her to montessori to reinforce watever is taught in Pat's. πŸ˜„ I read Tamarind's blog & tot the montessori enrichment class she sent her DD to seems v gd wif blendg words.
                        As a Montessorian myself, i take the above as a compliment. :love:

                        Montessori Phonics indeed has good and complete blending techniques
                        & comes with complete apparatus to match the exercises done. A good
                        Montessorian directress will ensure that the students get good repetitive
                        hands-on practices with the materials. Tam has simplified the method by
                        making her own cards. πŸ˜„
                        badgal:
                        tot mayb thru montessori, I can expose my ger to further aspects of phonics tat letterland is lacking?
                        I won't use the term lacking for every phonics method has its merits and
                        strengths. It is how we use them to the best use possible. A good teacher
                        however can deliver lessons regardless of the method used. πŸ˜„
                        badgal:
                        On the other hand, was oso thinkg mayb both Letterland & montessori can compliment her learning curve in phonics. Think I kiasu champion liao
                        We're all kiasu here, darling. So no worries. :lol: That's why we're here in
                        this KIASU parents forum. Hehee. :lol: Yes, i suppose you mean well since
                        you're thinking of complementing the two together. My advice is for you to
                        find out more abt the Montessori Phonics methodology before you dive in...
                        you should be able to get your child assessed at a Montessori enrichment
                        centre that offers the programme upon completing the Letterland single
                        letter sounds stage to see if it suits her. Hope this helps. πŸ˜„

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