* Nanyang JC (NYJC)
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mindays:
COP is an indication of school popularity which encompassed many factors (As I have explained in my previous posts).
I beg to differ. You are understating the real meaning of COP to just popularity, that's a narrow thought. COP to me is a wholesome gauge of prospective students' confidence in the school. Sure, a particular school's programme or facility may have appealed to students, that's a plus point. Caring culture and close-knitted community? Another plus point. All these minute yet important details that can further develop strengths and interests are what I want my DS to have. As I have spoken to the P of NYJC during the Open House, he has reassured me that for the past 10 years, NYJC has always been value adding in terms of academic results, that means that I can expect better results from my DS in the actual A Levels compared to the expected results he should obtain based on his current O Level results (8 raw, 6 nett). Whatever it is, I am looking forward to the posting.
When we say it is a Top college, you are referring to the the academic performance in A level results. Please just call a spade a spade.
Unless you are saying NYJC is Top in something else such as Top in Value-added or Top in School Facilities or top in Sports e.t.c. When you said \"TOP\" non-IP college, what exactly are you referring to ? -
GinMocca:
Exactly, when we say NYGH is the top secondary school, what are we referring to? The logic similarly applies in this context. If you want to scrutinise further, I suggest you to contact the MOE and find out whether it is reasonable to label a school as a top school or elite school (as stated in the Straits Times), I hope you get a favourable reply.
COP is an indication of school popularity which encompassed many factors (As I have explained in my previous posts).mindays:
I beg to differ. You are understating the real meaning of COP to just popularity, that's a narrow thought. COP to me is a wholesome gauge of prospective students' confidence in the school. Sure, a particular school's programme or facility may have appealed to students, that's a plus point. Caring culture and close-knitted community? Another plus point. All these minute yet important details that can further develop strengths and interests are what I want my DS to have. As I have spoken to the P of NYJC during the Open House, he has reassured me that for the past 10 years, NYJC has always been value adding in terms of academic results, that means that I can expect better results from my DS in the actual A Levels compared to the expected results he should obtain based on his current O Level results (8 raw, 6 nett). Whatever it is, I am looking forward to the posting.
When we say it is a Top college, you are referring to the the academic performance in A level results. Please just call a spade a spade.
Unless you are saying NYJC is Top in something else such as Top in Value-added or Top in School Facilities or top in Sports e.t.c. When you said \"TOP\" non-IP college, what exactly are you referring to ?
When I say that NYJC is the top non-IP JC, I am using the COP as a gauge, it means the cohort admitted in NYJC is intrinsically stronger than those of other non-IP JCs. Furthermore, NYJC's value added quality has always been in the top 3 among all JCs since 2007. In terms of academic performance, someone mentioned that 2016's cohort of 3 H2 distinctions with a pass in GP is closed to 40% (of which i calculated it to be about 38% or so some time back: https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=68179&start=540
Excerpt is here:
\"As to how I calculated NY's percentage, since a forummer here said that there were about 260 students or so who had gotten 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP and the 2016's batch have 670 students (source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BKVj5GyA2qZ/), my estimate was correct, the percentage will amount to 38.8%, in fact. But to be prudent, I have given a more conservative figure. The 35% distinction is on the assumption that the previous year was 31%, but since no one can confirm that, I feel that taking the figure as 38.8% will be good to serve as a conclusion., as reported from a newsletter shared by a NYJC parent.\"
I shall refrain from comparing, all schools are good. -
Oh and some may say that NYJC is a heartland JC? True, it is quite centralized in Singapore. Yet, it may not do justice to the school and label it as a heartland JC when it is backed up by high key figures like Wee Chow Yaw and its School Management Committee (SMC). These Chinese heads together lead reputable schools such as Chung Cheng High Main as well. Wee Chow Yaw is the chairman of Singapore Hokkien Huay Kuan which takes charge of other elite schools as well. Surely NYJC wouldn’t be just a "heartland" JC? Even more so with its competitive COP
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mindays:
I think you are really confused. NYGH is a top secondary school not purely because of its COP. It was because of its excellent \"O\" level track record prior being selected to be an IP school (and also her long illustrious history). If you looked at the trend, MOE only select the top performing school to be converted to be IP.
Exactly, when we say NYGH is the top secondary school, what are we referring to? The logic similarly applies in this context. If you want to scrutinise further, I suggest you to contact the MOE and find out whether it is reasonable to label a school as a top school or elite school (as stated in the Straits Times), I hope you get a favourable reply.
If NYJC is sood good as you claim, then why did MOE not select NYJC to be a IP college, yet chose to set up a totally new college Eunoia JC to be an IP college ?
MOE has never ranked schools by COP. They did a official ranking of schools ( by academic performance) many year back but have since stop it. So your definition that a school is top in academic performance is determined by COP is baseless. COP only indicates the popularity of the school which arises from many factors, including how nice is the school field.
[/quote]mindays:
Errr....is that all you have anedoctal and hearsay \"evidence\". Surely you can come up with better official detail data to support what you say? But I understand the difficulty of you getting the real official data because NYJC has been really secretive in publishing this...I wonder why?Furthermore, NYJC's value added quality has always been in the top 3 among all JCs since 2007. In terms of academic performance, someone mentioned that 2016's cohort of 3 H2 distinctions with a pass in GP is closed to 40% (of which i calculated it to be about 38% or so some time back: https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=68179&start=540
Excerpt is here:
\"As to how I calculated NY's percentage, since a forummer here said that there were about 260 students or so who had gotten 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP and the 2016's batch have 670 students (source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BKVj5GyA2qZ/), my estimate was correct, the percentage will amount to 38.8%, in fact. But to be prudent, I have given a more conservative figure. The 35% distinction is on the assumption that the previous year was 31%, but since no one can confirm that, I feel that taking the figure as 38.8% will be good to serve as a conclusion., as reported from a newsletter shared by a NYJC parent.\"mindays:
The fact that you self-declare unabashfully that NYJC is the top non-IP JC is itself a comparison with other collegesI shall refrain from comparing, all schools are good.
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mindays:
Oh and some may say that NYJC is a heartland JC? True, it is quite centralized in Singapore. Yet, it may not do justice to the school and label it as a heartland JC when it is backed up by high key figures like Wee Chow Yaw and its School Management Committee (SMC). These Chinese heads together lead reputable schools such as Chung Cheng High Main as well. Wee Chow Yaw is the chairman of Singapore Hokkien Huay Kuan which takes charge of other elite schools as well. Surely NYJC wouldn't be just a \"heartland\" JC? Even more so with its competitive COP
Surely you are not suggesting that NYJC is on par or better than RJC, HCJC, NJC as elite JC ?
I would suggest you conduct a poll. I think many in this forum have indicated that it is a heartland JC. While I think NYJC is an above average JC, I would still say it is a Heartland JC -
GinMocca:
Yes, NYJC is a heartland JCmindays:
Oh and some may say that NYJC is a heartland JC? True, it is quite centralized in Singapore. Yet, it may not do justice to the school and label it as a heartland JC when it is backed up by high key figures like Wee Chow Yaw and its School Management Committee (SMC). These Chinese heads together lead reputable schools such as Chung Cheng High Main as well. Wee Chow Yaw is the chairman of Singapore Hokkien Huay Kuan which takes charge of other elite schools as well. Surely NYJC wouldn't be just a \"heartland\" JC? Even more so with its competitive COP
Surely you are not suggesting that NYJC is on par or better than RJC, HCJC, NJC as elite JC ?
I would suggest you conduct a poll. I think many in this forum have indicated that it is a heartland JC. While I think NYJC is an above average JC, I would still say it is a Heartland JC -
It is the same definition for secondary schools. All the IP schools are elite schools. Simarly, the IP JC are the elite JC.
Hard truths but thats the fact -
Cool, perhaps MOE should look at this thread.
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mindays:
Cool, perhaps MOE should look at this thread.
I am sure that MOE looks at this thread. The hard fact is there are elite schools and there are not. Just learn to accept it and you wont be so bitter about it.
Would you think a Toyala vs Lexus. Toyota can be considered a elite car as it is reliable and has the biggest sales volume worldwide?
In the public’s eye, it is still a normal car -
mindays:
You are a pretty good liar. Did you not just make a comparison in the Meridian JC thread and conclude that MJC is better than TJC and that proves that non-IP JC is better than IP JC ?
I shall refrain from comparing, all schools are good.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=18594&p=1830104#p1830104
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