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    • isn4iI Offline
      isn4i
      last edited by

      Please help me. :imdrowning: After reading tens of pages, I'm getting confused. If I am an executive member within a Toa Payoh RC for few years, what does it allows me to when it comes to phase 2b if and when I receive the PA endorsement letter?


      (1) apply to a school within the boundary of Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC?
      Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC consists of 5 sub-constituencies (Bishan East-Thomson, Bishan North, Toa Payoh West-Balestier, Toa Payoh Central and Toa Payoh East-Novena). Am I eligible for any of these schools listed below based within the GRC?
      E.g., TP = CHIJ, Pei Chun, Saint Andrew
      E.g., Bishan = Ai Tong, Catholic High School, Kuo Chuan Presbyterian
      E.g., Novena = Anglo-Chinese School Primary, St Joseph’s Institution Junior, Singapore Chinese Girls

      or

      (2) apply to a school within any of the three Toa Payoh sub-constituencies? E.g., only in TP = CHIJ, Pei Chun, Saint Andrew

      or

      (3) apple to a school within the MOE Planning Area https://www.moe.gov.sg/admissions/primary-one-registration/information-on-primary-schools/listing-by-planning-area that correspond to the sub-constituencies that I'm residing?

      Secondly, when we apply for the PA letter, do we need to specify which specific school we applying for? Or its just a generic letter?

      Thanks 💋

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      • skiiS Offline
        skii
        last edited by

        1) within the Bishan TPY GRC

        2) no
        3) no need specific schools

        also, if you are an EM for the past few years, you should have received the letter from your CM, last May - getting GRL to log on to a website to register for the endorsement. During that registration, the FAQ should be clear enough.

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        • B Offline
          Baekenbae
          last edited by

          Hi gurus,


          Can I check if the phase 2B priority is only for executive members? Or associate members qualify too?

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          • G Offline
            galaxyraider
            last edited by

            EzEn:
            Dear Parents


            If my child is born in 2013 and starting primary school in 2020, when registration usually starts?

            And how do I know what are the primary schools under the GRC that I wish to sign for as RC member?

            Can someone help me? Im all so clueless and read that people are starting to volunteer and clock in PV in their preferred school. Is there no hope for me? 😢
            If you plan to go for GRL route, I'm afraid you're a bit too late. You can still try to do PV though, but you'll have to secure your PV slot this year as registration is in mid-2019.

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            • S Offline
              still_learning
              last edited by

              Hi all


              I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.

              I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).

              My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?

              If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?

              If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.

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              • floppyF Offline
                floppy
                last edited by

                still_learning:
                Hi all


                I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.

                I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).

                My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?

                If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?

                If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.
                1. Forget about Google map. Pretend it never existed (same goes to Apple map, Garmin etc). When it comes to P1 registration, there’s only ONE official source - OneMap.

                2. If the rule says you can only apply to this GRC, no use appealing to another GRC. It won’t work (unless your surname is Lee - but then again, one Lee just got charged, so who knows 🤷 )

                You can’t exactly stick to your existing address for this P1 exercise and change it to your new one once it’s over. Unless the distance to the school doesn’t differ between your old address and new address (ie both in the same bracket as <1km, 1km < 2km, > 2km), you would have breached the MOE rule and your child will be liable to be deported (ok, “transferred”) to another school.

                Your only option, really, is to go to PA and let them know you are moving. They should be able to explain how that would affect your eligibility etc.

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                • skiiS Offline
                  skii
                  last edited by

                  hi,


                  is your kid born in 2012 (thus registering this July)
                  or after 2012 which means registering next year or later?

                  still_learning:
                  Hi all

                  I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.

                  I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).

                  My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?

                  If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?

                  If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.

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                    still_learning
                    last edited by

                    floppy:
                    still_learning:

                    Hi all


                    I have a situation. I am an active grassroot leader.

                    I bought a new property and plan to move in by end of this year. The nearest school near my new house is in another GRC. Thou OneMap states that there are 4 primary schools within 1km from the house (I suppose they used straight line to measure), when I tried to google map the distance, the nearest school from the house is only 650m away while the other 3 are more than 1km. (btw, 3 out of 4 of the schools are in another GRC as the house is right at the end of that GRC).

                    My understanding from PA staff is that the letter I get from PA only allows me to register for school in the GRC of my address. I suppose this mean that schools from another GRC will not recognize my PA letter? In that case, may I ask if anyone had tried appealing for such scenarios? If so, how and what should I appeal for? Can I appeal for a letter from another GRC?

                    If I cannot apply for the school nearest to my new house, I will consider applying for the school nearest to my existing house and not move for the time being. Understand that PA system would open for parents who need the endorsement letter sometime in May-Jun. I heard there are appealing cases but the process is very long. Therefore, I wonder how should I play my cards? Apply for PA endorsement letter using existing address, appeal using new address and then what would happen? Would I know my appeal outcome before P2B opens for registration?

                    If someone could advise on the process for appeal and advise on what I should do would be wonderful.

                    1. Forget about Google map. Pretend it never existed (same goes to Apple map, Garmin etc). When it comes to P1 registration, there’s only ONE official source - OneMap.

                    2. If the rule says you can only apply to this GRC, no use appealing to another GRC. It won’t work (unless your surname is Lee - but then again, one Lee just got charged, so who knows 🤷 )

                    You can’t exactly stick to your existing address for this P1 exercise and change it to your new one once it’s over. Unless the distance to the school doesn’t differ between your old address and new address (ie both in the same bracket as <1km, 1km < 2km, > 2km), you would have breached the MOE rule and your child will be liable to be deported (ok, “transferred”) to another school.

                    Your only option, really, is to go to PA and let them know you are moving. They should be able to explain how that would affect your eligibility etc.

                    Much appreciate the advice. Yah, I understand that moving would breach MOE rule, therefore, if I use current address and got into the school near my current address, I will move only after 30mths. However, I am refraining from doing so. Firstly, because we bought the house with the intent of owner occupation. It's not really near MRT and a little bigger, therefore, it would not be easy to rent out with a good rental (thou I also don't feel like renting out my new house). Secondly is because the school near to my current address is even more competitive that the school near my new address when it comes to P2B, for the past few yrs, it requires balloting even for Spore Citizen within 1km. Think it would be worse this year given that this year's registration are for children born in the year of dragon.

                    I tried calling PA but response was strictly only the GRC of the address that I use to register for the school. But I find this being a bit too restrictive, as that would mean if I want to enter P2B, I can only go to a school further away from my address. Doesn't this contradict MOE's intent of encouraging parents to register the school nearer to their place? My kids would have to walk a good 16mins to school instead of 8mins. PA staff said that I could only go for P2C for my case, but this would potentially be worse as if I couldn't get in via P2C due to over-subscribing, I may end up not in any of the 4 schools near my new place. Arrrggg... this doesn't work! =(

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                    • floppyF Offline
                      floppy
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                      still_learning:

                      ...
                      I tried calling PA but response was strictly only the GRC of the address that I use to register for the school. But I find this being a bit too restrictive, as that would mean if I want to enter P2B, I can only go to a school further away from my address. Doesn't this contradict MOE's intent of encouraging parents to register the school nearer to their place? My kids would have to walk a good 16mins to school instead of 8mins. PA staff said that I could only go for P2C for my case, but this would potentially be worse as if I couldn't get in via P2C due to over-subscribing, I may end up not in any of the 4 schools near my new place. Arrrggg... this doesn't work! =(
                      Restrictive? Yes, but what else are you expecting from a one-size-fits-all policy?
                      Not happy, talk to your MP about it - not to get him to write an appeal letter (because it won't work) but to get him/her to raise it in Parliament (though I doubt they would do it 😂 )
                      That said, if you can't get into the school of your choice, that isn't entirely due to MOE policy / MOE fault. Just down to bad luck (or bad planning) that there are other equally staying nearby parents applying to the same school within the same phase.

                      Notwithstanding, the key point is you have \"options\" - much better than having no option in the slugfest. You have the option of using P2B or P2C, and the option of choosing a number of schools within P2B / P2C.

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                        still_learning
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                        floppy:
                        still_learning:


                        ...
                        Restrictive? Yes, but what else are you expecting from a one-size-fits-all policy?
                        Not happy, talk to your MP about it - not to get him to write an appeal letter (because it won't work) but to get him/her to raise it in Parliament (though I doubt they would do it 😂 )
                        That said, if you can't get into the school of your choice, that isn't entirely due to MOE policy / MOE fault. Just down to bad luck (or bad planning) that there are other equally staying nearby parents applying to the same school within the same phase.

                        Notwithstanding, the key point is you have \"options\" - much better than having no option in the slugfest. You have the option of using P2B or P2C, and the option of choosing a number of schools within P2B / P2C.

                        I don't know why you sounded upset. I think everyone are just trying to find the best case scenario when they can. That's why I am enquiring here. I am not blaming MOE policy, just wondering if there are alternatives for cases like mine. Understand that the policy needs to cater to all, but wouldn't by distance be a more logical way than by GRC? As we know, sometimes the way the GRCs areas that are cut out can be really wide and odd. I believe being near to school is more important (Maybe this is just my person thinking).

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