2018 P1 registration exercise for 2019 intake

[phtthp]

janet88:

P1 registration has always been a stressful time...especially those born in hot years like dragon and horse years. I understand there will be some changes for this year’s registration:


1) p1 can register online (maybe it already started but I didn’t realize)

2) balloting will not be manual like before... wonder if parents feel less stressful this way.
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Finally, replaced ping pong balls with computer.

Should be less stressful .... since no more \"live\" viewing of ping pong balls on-site, anymore.

Instead, now parents can just wait at home for news :
for MOE to sms parents, update them whether balloted \"in \" or \"out\", after the balloting process is conducted, over .

also, parents no need to apply leave, just to go down to schools, to view balloting.

only concern is :-
manual still can verify. At least, ping pong ball is Transparent.

Computer : how to verify ?
How does the computer balloting algorithm work ?

[janet88]

phtthp:

only concern is :-
manual still can verify. At least, ping pong ball is Transparent.

Computer : how to verify ?
How does the computer balloting algorithm work ?

even my mum is sceptical about this. I really :salute: her on this. if computer balloting can be done for HDB balance flats, it is also possible for this purpose.
ping pong ball may be stressful but it's clear cut.
but computer :roll: :skeptical:
I think parents would prefer to be at the scene instead of waiting at home.

[phtthp]

janet88:

phtthp:

only concern is :-
manual still can verify. At least, ping pong ball is Transparent.

Computer : how to verify ?
How does the computer balloting algorithm work ?

even my mum is sceptical about this. I really :salute: her on this. if computer balloting can be done for HDB balance flats, it is also possible for this purpose.
ping pong ball may be stressful but it's clear cut.

but computer :roll: :skeptical:
I think parents would prefer to be at the scene instead of waiting at home.

Whether whose K2 child's ping pong ball roll out of the rotating cage or not, parents can verify, on the spot.

Whether got any twins or triplets taking up extra balloting space, on actual balloting day, parents can see, because they are all present, at the premises.
e.g.
if one twin gets in, the other twin automatically also get in. So, occupy 2 seats instead of one. The same for triplets, although rare.


But how the computer algorithm has been designed for balloting, written by a programmer who code the source code, nobody know. Computer programming logic : can be altered by human. What if one day in future, someone \" tweak \" the algorithm, to give certain people benefit or advantage ?

Is a black box .... no question to be asked. Is assumed that parents just have to accept the balloting verdict (in or out).


under computer balloting now, for twins case, is the names of both twins thrown into the computer, to ballot together ?

what if computer pick out only 1 twin, didn't pick up the other twin?
means that the twins end up goto separate primary schools ?
different from ping pong ball case : where either both twins are in together, or both are out together ?

[zac's mum]

I think the issue here is: old system - parents can be there to audit the process. New system - MOE ownself check ownself. They are expecting everybody to trust the algorithm and no parents to push to examine the video evidence of the process.


I’m so glad im already done with DS’ balloting before they changed the system.

But...in future for his PSLE the AL system will also have balloting. Accept lor, what to do... :razz:

[phtthp]

now is 2018.

left last 3 PSLE T-score batches to go, before roll out AL Psle score new syetem.

[janet88]

phtthp:

means that the twins end up goto separate primary schools ?
different from ping pong ball case : where either both twins are in together, or both are out together ?

twins/triplets will be put together as 1...but not being to see the balloting is more stressful.
now, it's not only customer is always right (which doesn't hold water in my opinion)...but ministries are ALWAYS right. don't try to fight the system

[zac's mum]

janet88:

phtthp:

means that the twins end up goto separate primary schools ?
different from ping pong ball case : where either both twins are in together, or both are out together ?

twins/triplets will be put together as 1...but not being to see the balloting is more stressful.
now, it's not only customer is always right (which doesn't hold water in my opinion)...but ministries are ALWAYS right. don't try to fight the system

I believe the parents need to indicate somewhere on the form. Whether they want to share same ballot ball or not.

DS has a classmate whose twin sister was voluntarily registered into another school (a girls-only school). So it’s not automatic. I don’t think MOE computer can be so smart to detect from their BC numbers whether the kids are singles or twins or triplets etc.

[janet88]

zac's mum:

DS has a classmate whose twin sister was voluntarily registered into another school (a girls-only school). So it’s not automatic. I don’t think MOE computer can be so smart to detect from their BC numbers whether the kids are singles or twins or triplets etc.

if the twins/triplets are registered in different schools, then it's a different thing...supposing the twin girl is registered in an all girls school which doesn't require balloting, then she will get into the school...but if demand exceeds supply, then her ballot number will be in the balloting box for that school.

[phtthp]

janet88:

even my mum is sceptical about this. I really :salute: her on this. if computer balloting can be done for HDB balance flats, it is also possible for this purpose.
ping pong ball may be stressful but it's clear cut.

but computer :roll: :skeptical:
I think parents would prefer to be at the scene instead of waiting at home.

According to this report below, the less stressful part about computer balloting now is that :
if a child get balloted out, parents can cry at home.

https://gotclass.com.sg/computerised-balloting-to-ease-p1-registration-stress/

[zac's mum]

phtthp:

According to this report below, the less stressful part about computer balloting now is that :

if a child get balloted out, parents can cry at home.

https://gotclass.com.sg/computerised-balloting-to-ease-p1-registration-stress/

Rolling my eyes at that reason. Parents who had wanted to cry at home could have skipped the (non-compulsory) balloting attendance and simply cried at home what.

Anyway, the real reason for this change is that the individual schools’ time and resources should be better spent on other things, like educating and nurturing the students. This is a perfectly justifiable reason and as a parent I would understand and concur better if they explain it this way to the press.