NUS / NTU medicine application 2018/2019
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Samuel002:
Purely statistic:ycpang:
Ok just trying to make some assumptions:
NTU has 138 vacancies. Assuming 50% of them have double offers from both NTU and NUS = 70.
Therefore there will be 70 slots available for those on waitlist. Sounds logical?
NUS selects 322 out of 980. Chances is 33%
NTU selects 138 out of 398. Chances is 34%
Both schools combined: 460 out of 980 ( very likely those 398 applied for NTU also applied for NUS). So chances is 47% if the student applied for both schools.
Round 1 - about 33% got offered based on individual school. There is a balance of 14% slots to be filled in round 2.
14% out of 460 = 65 slots available on waitlist. This is close to 70 slots as per my earlier estimation. In fact, if dentistry is included ( since those who applied dentistry are likely to apply to med as well), the chances of one gets into one of the three faculties is about 50%. -
ycpang:
Purely statistic:Samuel002:
[quote=\"ycpang\"]Ok just trying to make some assumptions:
NTU has 138 vacancies. Assuming 50% of them have double offers from both NTU and NUS = 70.
Therefore there will be 70 slots available for those on waitlist. Sounds logical?
NUS selects 322 out of 980. Chances is 33%
NTU selects 138 out of 398. Chances is 34%
Both schools combined: 460 out of 980 ( very likely those 398 applied for NTU also applied for NUS). So chances is 47% if the student applied for both schools.
Round 1 - about 33% got offered based on individual school. There is a balance of 14% slots to be filled in round 2.
14% out of 460 = 65 slots available on waitlist. This is close to 70 slots as per my earlier estimation. In fact, if dentistry is included ( since those who applied dentistry are likely to apply to med as well), the chances of one gets into one of the three faculties is about 50%.[/quote]Hi, ycyang, your statistics is great ! How the nus medicine/ntu medicine/ nus dentistry offer those 70 slots in round 2 ? As if the above three faulty is not successful, it will offer you the second choice —such as lawyer. And u already accept the offer for nus lawyer. Thanks. -
ycpang:
Purely statistic:Samuel002:
[quote=\"ycpang\"]Ok just trying to make some assumptions:
NTU has 138 vacancies. Assuming 50% of them have double offers from both NTU and NUS = 70.
Therefore there will be 70 slots available for those on waitlist. Sounds logical?
NUS selects 322 out of 980. Chances is 33%
NTU selects 138 out of 398. Chances is 34%
Both schools combined: 460 out of 980 ( very likely those 398 applied for NTU also applied for NUS). So chances is 47% if the student applied for both schools.
Round 1 - about 33% got offered based on individual school. There is a balance of 14% slots to be filled in round 2.
14% out of 460 = 65 slots available on waitlist. This is close to 70 slots as per my earlier estimation. In fact, if dentistry is included ( since those who applied dentistry are likely to apply to med as well), the chances of one gets into one of the three faculties is about 50%.[/quote]Hi, ycyang, your statistics is great ! How the nus medicine/ntu medicine/ nus dentistry offer those 70 slots in round 2 ? As if the above three faulty is not successful, it will offer you the second choice —such as lawyer. And u already accept the offer for nus lawyer. Thanks. -
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Note that the increase in no of med places in both med schools (YLL, LKC) has to do with our ageing population, i.e. an increased need for clinical manpower in the fields of family medicine, geriatric medicine, internal medicine, palliative care, etc.
MOH has called for more doctors with “broad and general professional capabilities” to serve an ageing Singapore, and the deans of 3 med schools (incl Duke) have stressed the importance of training more \"generalist\" doctors.
More 'generalists' are expected to be churned from future pools, cos we appear to have too many 'specialist' doctors. 'Generalists' are needed to provide holistic treatment to elderly patients with multiple health issues, so junior doctors do take note of that career track.
[quote]Steps have already been taken to encourage more young doctors to become generalists. This year, one in five residency places offered was for family medicine, advanced internal medicine or geriatrics, according to MOH.
This is an increase from 2013, when the number of residency openings in these specialities made up only 12 per cent of the total.
Doctors in these disciplines are considered generalists because they do not focus on a single organ or body part. Their emphasis is on treating patients as a whole[/quote][quote]Young doctors were also urged not to be in medicine for \"prestige, financial rewards or fame\" and \"not seek to be a super-specialist when there is limited demand... or choose a speciality primarily because it gives us a good work-life balance\".
Prof Chen yesterday acknowledged that \"many doctors who enter medical school are actually ambitious. They want to do prestigious disciplines... The need currently is that of general medical care. [/quote]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-reviews-doctors-training-to-become-specialists
https://www.straitstimes.com/forum/letters-in-print/all-students-of-nus-medical-school-get-geriatrics-training
https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/too-many-specialist-doctors-and-too-few-who-can-see-the-big-picture
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/big-read-specialists-or-gps-training-review-get-mix-right-just-what-doctor-ordered -
FantasyLandDreams:
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/overseas-stints-boon-ntus-first-batch-medicine-students
I wonder how many from the pioneer batch actually got a stint in London? -
Zeit:
Which year did the pioneer batch begin? I know someone who is 4th yr now and is having a London stint this year. Not sure if he's already there or how long it is, though.FantasyLandDreams:
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/overseas-stints-boon-ntus-first-batch-medicine-students
I wonder how many from the pioneer batch actually got a stint in London? -
slmkhoo:
Which year did the pioneer batch begin? I know someone who is 4th yr now and is having a London stint this year. Not sure if he's already there or how long it is, though.[/quote]Should be 5 years ago- Aug 2013 intake.Zeit:
[quote=\"FantasyLandDreams\"]http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/overseas-stints-boon-ntus-first-batch-medicine-students
I wonder how many from the pioneer batch actually got a stint in London?
\"Today (May 2018 date of article), the pioneer batch of 52 medicine students from NTU will have completed their five-year undergraduate course.\"
Do they actually get to spend a term at Imperial College, as 'advertised'?
EDITED - Apologies: I found the answer... 22 went over.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/181253/imperial-hosts-placements-lee-kong-chian/ -
Zeit:
if the NTU Lee Kong Chian medicine programme expose the undergraduates to overseas stint, then NTU exposure would be more valuable.
Should be 5 years ago- Aug 2013 intake.FantasyLandDreams:
http://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/overseas-stints-boon-ntus-first-batch-medicine-students
\"Today (May 2018 date of article), the pioneer batch of 52 medicine students from NTU will have completed their five-year undergraduate course.\"
Do they actually get to spend a term at Imperial College, as 'advertised'? -
Zeit:
Do they actually get to spend a term at Imperial College, as 'advertised'?
Not sure if all do, but as I said, at least one is getting some time there, though I don't know the duration. His mother told me that she's visiting him there later this year.
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