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    2018 P1 registration exercise for 2019 intake

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Primary Schools - Selection & Registration
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    • jurislingJ Offline
      jurisling
      last edited by

      Thanks for all replies. Appreciate it.

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      • Oh My GoshO Offline
        Oh My Gosh
        last edited by

        Twincam:
        Hi,

        Have a question on address:

        1. PV applications more than what they required, selected PV likely based on distance
        2. Registered as PV using within 1km address
        3. Applications at 2B less than available places, everyone secured a place

        Question: Am I still required to stay at the within 1km address for 30 months given that no balloting is required at 2B?

        TIA
        Even if no balloting but you are “allocated” a seat based on distance, you still need to stay in the place for 30months. Eg. Seats in phase 2B just enough for those within 1km hence no balloting needed.

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        • skiiS Offline
          skii
          last edited by

          https://va.ecitizen.gov.sg/cfp/customerPages/moe/explorefaq.aspx?Category=3645&utm_source=moe-corp-site&utm_medium=referral



          Wait.
          My understanding is:
          If there was priority because of the address, then the 30 months is required.

          But since numbers applied was less than available vacancies, all went in and no priority was used in any filter.

          I think we must call moe on this.

          The distinction is not about balloting it’s about if the distance priority was used.

          Eg:
          20-5-5 for 20 vacancies
          All 1km gets in because of priority thus 30 months is required. (But no balloting for 1km also)

          5-0-5 for 20 vacancies.
          All gets in.
          No priority was used.
          No need 30 months.
          (No balloting also)


          No interpretation of the 30 months rule.

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          • W Offline
            weixiang_06
            last edited by

            skii:
            https://va.ecitizen.gov.sg/cfp/customerPages/moe/explorefaq.aspx?Category=3645&utm_source=moe-corp-site&utm_medium=referral



            Wait.
            My understanding is:
            If there was priority because of the address, then the 30 months is required.

            But since numbers applied was less than available vacancies, all went in and no priority was used in any filter.

            I think we must call moe on this.

            The distinction is not about balloting it’s about if the distance priority was used.

            Eg:
            20-5-5 for 20 vacancies
            All 1km gets in because of priority thus 30 months is required. (But no balloting for 1km also)

            5-0-5 for 20 vacancies.
            All gets in.
            No priority was used.
            No need 30 months.
            (No balloting also)


            No interpretation of the 30 months rule.
            Where got your suka suka interpret your way.

            What ever it is based on your registration forms at the point of application for phase 2b, the address will hold for 30 months. Cos at the point of submission of form, there is a form which the officials will have to indicate your address and its distance from the school.

            No need to debate whether u got in via distance or not. If you want debate, you should have put a distance of >2km.

            Period.

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            • skiiS Offline
              skii
              last edited by

              It’s plain English - written on a website.

              Of cos must interpret la.

              Unless you are 100% sure, I don’t see why when priority was not used but 30 months is required.


              Quote from moe website again:

              Do parents need to seek MOE’s approval before the family moves to another address without our child being transferred to another school?

              Answer:
              Parents do not need to seek MOE’s approval to change their residential address.

              However, if a child gains priority admission under the home-school distance categories and is subsequently found to have not fulfilled the condition that the child resides at address used for registration for at least 30 months from the commencement of the P1 Registration Exercise on 28 June 2018, MOE reserves the right to transfer the child out of the school to another school with vacancies.

              weixiang_06:
              skii:

              https://va.ecitizen.gov.sg/cfp/customerPages/moe/explorefaq.aspx?Category=3645&utm_source=moe-corp-site&utm_medium=referral


              Wait.
              My understanding is:
              If there was priority because of the address, then the 30 months is required.

              But since numbers applied was less than available vacancies, all went in and no priority was used in any filter.

              I think we must call moe on this.

              The distinction is not about balloting it’s about if the distance priority was used.

              Eg:
              20-5-5 for 20 vacancies
              All 1km gets in because of priority thus 30 months is required. (But no balloting for 1km also)

              5-0-5 for 20 vacancies.
              All gets in.
              No priority was used.
              No need 30 months.
              (No balloting also)


              No interpretation of the 30 months rule.

              Where got your suka suka interpret your way.

              What ever it is based on your registration forms at the point of application for phase 2b, the address will hold for 30 months. Cos at the point of submission of form, there is a form which the officials will have to indicate your address and its distance from the school.

              No need to debate whether u got in via distance or not. If you want debate, you should have put a distance of >2km.

              Period.

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              • R Offline
                reiann
                last edited by

                Weixiang, I really do think Skii’s point is valid. It’s not “suka suka” interpret. It’s based on logic and deduction, and absolutely fair. So in that parents case, I believe he/she can change address within 30 months. I’m sure MOE can clarify.

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                • K Offline
                  kristy13
                  last edited by

                  Hi Twincam


                  I think you should call MOE to clarify. It is not definitely clear that Selection of PV was based on distance. Even if it was, it is the school’s choice and not MOE’s choice.
                  Please go obtain an official answer.

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                  • floppyF Offline
                    floppy
                    last edited by

                    reiann:
                    Weixiang, I really do think Skii’s point is valid. It’s not “suka suka” interpret. It’s based on logic and deduction, and absolutely fair. So in that parents case, I believe he/she can change address within 30 months. I’m sure MOE can clarify.

                    skii is correct based on last year's understanding.

                    That said, just quote the school and easier to interpret.

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                    • T Offline
                      Twincam
                      last edited by

                      Thanks everyone for advice.


                      Unless they specifically mention different rules for different phases, my interpretation of moe website is similar to skii. If I didn’t secure the place based on distance priority but purely available places more than applications regardless of distance, the 30m rule should not apply.
                      I don’t think they expect parent registering their child under 2C(S) staying within 1km to fulfil the 30m rule when the school is not even full at the end of the whole registration.

                      However, I’m unsure whether does the PV selection criteria matter.

                      Shall check with MOE directly.

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                      • S Offline
                        Stormzer
                        last edited by

                        rainbowdeng:
                        Orb:

                        You cant fault the parents for being punctual right? If the parent steps in at 4.29pm, the parent would still need to complete the application form and then submit it to the admin staff.


                        Then there are a number of things the admin staff needs to do per registrant.

                        1. Checking of documents against original copies.
                        2. Grouping of the registratrant in distance category
                        3. Key in data to the MOE database.

                        No way all these can be done in a minute.

                        Are they using OneMap to check th distance ? What if the OneMap is done ?

                        Just to add on to this onemap checks,
                        the school already had a list of address hardcopy and softcopy (not sure TOP address)
                        and which \"distance\" you belong already known

                        keying the data to MOE normally done later or concurrently depend on manpower
                        they more focus on checking and verifying the documents.

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