2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[sweetbaby]

ChiefKiasu:

sweetbaby:

Do we need an average of 60s to enter express stream?


Sc = 70
Math = 55
Chinese = 40
English = 67

likely normal stream?

thx you

It would appear that your child may be on the high end of Normal stream. Need to buck up a bit on Chinese to get to Express. Remember that Primary school is not the end of world for slower kids who need time to grow.

:thankyou:

He's results rather unpredictable. We hope this child enters a school that meets his needs.

[phtthp]

sweetbaby:

Do we need an average of 60s to enter express stream?


Sc = 70
Math = 55
Chinese = 40
English = 67

likely normal stream?

thx you

To hit Express stream, average per subject, Raw score, is close to 70 marks. If Total for 4 subjects can reach around (70 x 4) say, equal around (280 upon 400), can cross the barrier of 200, enter Express stream ( Sec 1).

However, there are some Secondary schools, that even though in the region of 18x or 19x, below 200, they still allow student to do Express (Sec 1).

If u already have some Secondary target schools in mind, can refer to that booklet given by primary schools to all P6 students, roughly the range or Cut-off-point, in those schools that offer Express stream, which u are interested in.

Based on the score you provided, the child Total is 232 (upon 400). Child is pulled down heavily, by his Chinese and Maths.

Go through all his (P4 to current up-to-date latest P5 SA2) Chinese and Maths past CA1, CA2, SA1 and SA2 papers. Should be able identify

for Chinese :

is it his Oral or his zuowen or from Chinese Paper 2, which are his weakest components , that are dragging him down ?

Have a word with his school's lao shi, how to help him improve, within this very short remaining time period left, from November 2018 to the next 2019 P6 CA1 (February), if not P6 SA1 (May), at least from his current 40 marks, how to clear passing mark to beyond 50 ? Discuss with his school Chinese laoshi, strategies to help him improve. Every 5-marks interval that he made, counts a lot and is a good improvement. We celebrate his little small-step improvement made. We focus more on his \"journey\" of progress, not focus on the end-point (final result). If he is making little small-byte step improvement in his journey, he will reach his end point (his targeted goal) eventually.

Example

Suppose he is weak with Chinese Paper 2, where weak component identified is, Open-ended \"li jie wen da\" section. Perhaps, propose to his school's lao shi : is it possible that he do say, either one or 2 open-ended \"li jie wen da\" per week, then submit to laoshi to mark ? In other words, don't do the entire Chinese paper 2 and ask Lao-shi to mark. What we can do is, strip right-down to his weakest component, enlist the help of lao shi, to help him mark in that very weak component (area).

Some Chinese Teachers are helpful, particularly if the form Tr happen to be your class Chinese laoshi, or those Tr that are kind, with a heart, willing to help. This way, can receive immediate help. No point continue to attend Chinese tuition centre group tuition, because now this pupil need \"Individual\" attention. Group tuition doesn't help anymore, esp. when tuition class is too big, with 8 to 12 kids. Tr is unable to focus on him individually, in a big Tuition group setting.

With very little time left, the key word is consistency ... that means, what is he doing every day, to help himself improve in his Chinese ?

If his daily timetable (from now, until 2019 February P6 CA1) consistently is able to incorporate small parts of his weakest components and work upon them unceasingly with peseverance, determination, working hard at every single of his Weak components identified , be it broken down into every 45-minutes per session, with a 20-to-30 minutes short break interval in-between to rest, then he is on his way, to improvement, to overcome and jump over (cross) his hurdle, from current 40 marks to beyond 50 passing mark. For this to take place, need both side-by-side parents' support commitment, as well as a good guardian Teacher (can be school Tr, or a private Tutor hired) to guide him, closely monitor and assist him. Bottom line is hard work and effort chipped in, to bring him over to the other side.


To hit 230 :
if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 80, Total around 320 (80 x 4) upon 400, possible.

To hit 245 :
if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 85, Total around 340 (85 x 4) upon 400, possible.

[sweetbaby]

Thank you everyone for your inputs. Very helpful indeed.

[Dino]

phtthp:

To hit 230 :
if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 80, Total around 320 (80 x 4) upon 400, possible.

To hit 245 :
if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 85, Total around 340 (85 x 4) upon 400, possible.

Morning all, I was reading this. Very informative but leads me to another question. if 85 marks which is already quite high score (or maybe not low at all) can hit only ard 245, how to hit 250+, 260+ or even 270+ that some kids gotten? that means its as good as having to get at least 90+ for all 4 subjects individually at least hit 250+? and 260+ and 270+ scores would have some full marks in the 4 subjects with the rest at least close to full marks? Thanks.

[peasants]

Dino:

To hit 230 :

if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 80, Total around 320 (80 x 4) upon 400, possible.

To hit 245 :
if Raw score, per each 4 subject can reach 85, Total around 340 (85 x 4) upon 400, possible.

Morning all, I was reading this. Very informative but leads me to another question. if 85 marks which is already quite high score (or maybe not low at all) can hit only ard 245, how to hit 250+, 260+ or even 270+ that some kids gotten? that means its as good as having to get at least 90+ for all 4 subjects individually at least hit 250+? and 260+ and 270+ scores would have some full marks in the 4 subjects with the rest at least close to full marks? Thanks.

Example (Average 95 marks x 4 subjects) x 0.72 Conservatively = 273

[Zappy]

Dino:

Morning all, I was reading this. Very informative but leads me to another question. if 85 marks which is already quite high score (or maybe not low at all) can hit only ard 245, how to hit 250+, 260+ or even 270+ that some kids gotten? that means its as good as having to get at least 90+ for all 4 subjects individually at least hit 250+? and 260+ and 270+ scores would have some full marks in the 4 subjects with the rest at least close to full marks? Thanks.

These are all approximations depending on how optimistic the multiplication factor is.

As a quick guide, the total score of the 4 subjects is multiplied by 0.72 (conservative estimate) to 0.75 (optimistic estimate) to get the t-score. You can get the rough score needed to hit a certain T-score in this way.

Eg. Average 85, total 340.
Conservative estimate: 340 * 0.72 = 244.8 ~ 245
Optimistic estimate: 340 * 0.75 = 255

[Dino]

Zappy:

These are all approximations depending on how optimistic the multiplication factor is.


As a quick guide, the total score of the 4 subjects is multiplied by 0.72 (conservative estimate) to 0.75 (optimistic estimate) to get the t-score. You can get the rough score needed to hit a certain T-score in this way.

Eg. Average 85, total 340.
Conservative estimate: 340 * 0.72 = 244.8 ~ 245
Optimistic estimate: 340 * 0.75 = 255

ok thanks Zappy. understand better now. I first time so very noob at all these. Is there a chance that the factor can go as low as 0.7? possible?

[Zappy]

It’s just a rule of thumb - all estimates only.

Don’t scare yourself too much with even lower multiplication-factors.
These are just for you to approximate what the score could be.
Then you can work on certain areas/ subjects to hit the target t-score for certain schools.

[Dino]

Zappy:

It's just a rule of thumb - all estimates only.

Don't scare yourself too much with even lower multiplication-factors.
These are just for you to approximate what the score could be.
Then you can work on certain areas/ subjects to hit the target t-score for certain schools.

ok noted thanks. Estimates being estimates, it gives a snapshoot.... ok if i can take psle for my kid, maybe i would.... haha... think there is quite a fair bit of work to be done......

thanks again zappy

[Zappy]

Dino:

if i can take psle for my kid, maybe i would.... haha... think there is quite a fair bit of work to be done......


thanks again zappy

You're welcome... but errrrr, I wouldn't want to take psle for my kid - too tough!