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    JC or Poly?

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    • floppyF Offline
      floppy
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      pirate:
      Clar06:

      Understand your point. She got A1 for Lit, A2 for both Eng n Chinese, B3 for both E Math and Chem, C5 for A Math and Bio,C6 for combine humans. What I am really concern is her A Math, coz the few kids fm the same tutor managed to score As.. So it seems to be an indication that she has no flair for math.

      The only courses she doesn’t mind is probably business studies, coz it’s most general. Optometry, Pharmaceutical all not interested.. sigh. Just feel that she wanted to go JC because most her friends are in that route..
      Sorry for all the ranting :offtopic:

      In that case, definitely consider going the MI Commerce route towards business studies or accountancy in Uni. Can drop Mathematics altogether since got A Maths C5 at O-levels.

      PS. Apparently even Law is not an impossibility. :shock: So no need to get discouraged.

      pirate’s suggested pathway is a good one. The traditional JC route may be difficult and narrow for her I am afraid. In JC, she can probably do Lit, Econs and Math but I can’t think of what else.

      Besides Business, the suggested Mass Comm is a good one. With her Lit A1, EL / CL A2, she will probably do quite well in it as well.

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        pirate
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        zac's mum:
        Clar06:

        She got A1 for Lit, A2 for both Eng n Chinese, B3 for both E Math and Chem, C5 for A Math and Bio,C6 for combine humans. What I am really concern is her A Math, coz the few kids fm the same tutor managed to score As.. So it seems to be an indication that she has no flair for math.

        The only courses she doesn’t mind is probably business studies, coz it’s most general. Optometry, Pharmaceutical all not interested.. sigh. Just feel that she wanted to go JC because most her friends are in that route..
        Sorry for all the ranting :offtopic:

        C5 for Biology should not consider Optometry or Pharmacy or Biotech at all dear.

        A1 for Literature! She can do Literature for A levels (Arts course). I agree that H1 Math is still survivable with tuition. But Business studies (or Accounting) is IMO really not a good idea for those weak in Math.

        Play to her strengths and interests. How about Mass Comm? Marketing? Or even Hospitality or Culinary Arts? Visual design?

        No lah. H1 Math is redundant since she already got O-level A Maths. Degree courses that require H1 Maths equate that with O-level A Maths. Don't need all those high falutin A-level Mathematics concepts for Business Studies or Accountancy. My brother got dunno C5 or C6 for Add Maths but still got 1st Class from NUS Accountancy. Business Studies and Accountancy at NUS only require H1 Mathematics or O-level Additional Mathematics pass. She already has C-5 in A Maths. Can drop Mathematics altogether and concentrate on her GP and 3 H2 subjects.

        Alternatively, since she is strong in English Lit and languages, go MI Art. Who knows? Maybe can get A for GP and 3 H2 A in her strong areas and still shoot for Law!

        PS. I mention Law just to point out that the sky is still the limit for your dd. But that C6 in Combined Humanities need to examine the reason.

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          pirate:
          Clar06:

          Understand your point. She got A1 for Lit, A2 for both Eng n Chinese, B3 for both E Math and Chem, C5 for A Math and Bio,C6 for combine humans. What I am really concern is her A Math, coz the few kids fm the same tutor managed to score As.. So it seems to be an indication that she has no flair for math.

          The only courses she doesn’t mind is probably business studies, coz it’s most general. Optometry, Pharmaceutical all not interested.. sigh. Just feel that she wanted to go JC because most her friends are in that route..
          Sorry for all the ranting :offtopic:

          In that case, definitely consider going the MI Commerce route towards business studies or accountancy in Uni. Can drop Mathematics altogether since got A Maths C5 at O-levels.

          PS. Apparently even Law is not an impossibility. :shock: So no need to get discouraged.

          Math is a compulsory subject, isn't it? This is the list of subject combis available at MI https://www.millenniainstitute.moe.edu.sg/admission/2019-subject-combinations

          As for Law, they may not have a long list of prerequisite subjects for the local unis, but I believe they will place emphasis on good GP/KI grades and humanities subjects like Lit, History, ELL etc.

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            pirate
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            jtoh:
            Math is a compulsory subject, isn't it? This is the list of subject combis available at MI https://www.millenniainstitute.moe.edu.sg/admission/2019-subject-combinations


            As for Law, they may not have a long list of prerequisite subjects for the local unis, but I believe they will place emphasis on good GP/KI grades and humanities subjects like Lit, History, ELL etc.
            If H1 Maths is still compulsory, that's basically repeating Add Maths. Kind of pointless but shouldn't be something she needs to worry about. 🤷

            Accounting will serve as the contrasting H2 subject since it is classified under Science and Mathematics.

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            • sharonkhooS Offline
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              pirate:
              jtoh:

              Math is a compulsory subject, isn't it? This is the list of subject combis available at MI https://www.millenniainstitute.moe.edu.sg/admission/2019-subject-combinations


              As for Law, they may not have a long list of prerequisite subjects for the local unis, but I believe they will place emphasis on good GP/KI grades and humanities subjects like Lit, History, ELL etc.

              If H1 Maths is still compulsory, that's basically repeating Add Maths. Kind of pointless but shouldn't be something she needs to worry about. 🤷

              Accounting will serve as the contrasting H2 subject since it is classified under Science and Mathematics.

              Looks like MI has changed its combinations. In my daughter's time, a few years ago, Arts students could offer a H1 science as a contrasting subject. H1 Maths is not really like A Maths, according to what I've been told. It's a subset of H2 Maths (but the questions are generally easier for the same topics).

              I don't think Accounting is considered a contrasting subject for Arts, and all Accounting combinations include Maths at either H1 or H2 level.

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              • sharonkhooS Offline
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                floppy:
                pirate’s suggested pathway is a good one. The traditional JC route may be difficult and narrow for her I am afraid. In JC, she can probably do Lit, Econs and Math but I can’t think of what else.


                Besides Business, the suggested Mass Comm is a good one. With her Lit A1, EL / CL A2, she will probably do quite well in it as well.
                The other Arts subjects in MI are Geog and Hist, and there is also Management under Commerce. She hasn't done well in Combined Humanities, but maybe with more focus on a specific subject, she might enjoy it more and do better? In MI, she can do a mix of Arts and Commerce (not available in JCs): eg. my daughter took Lit, Geog, Management and H1 Maths.

                If she has an fairly outgoing personality and likes to write, work in groups etc, then Mass Comm or related Media type poly courses may suit her. My daughter tried Mass Comm at a poly after her A levels (long story), but her personality didn't suit those courses. And since she managed to get a place in a more suitable course in NTU with her A level grades, she switched.

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                • floppyF Offline
                  floppy
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                  pirate:
                  jtoh:

                  Math is a compulsory subject, isn't it? This is the list of subject combis available at MI https://www.millenniainstitute.moe.edu.sg/admission/2019-subject-combinations


                  As for Law, they may not have a long list of prerequisite subjects for the local unis, but I believe they will place emphasis on good GP/KI grades and humanities subjects like Lit, History, ELL etc.

                  If H1 Maths is still compulsory, that's basically repeating Add Maths. Kind of pointless but shouldn't be something she needs to worry about. 🤷

                  Accounting will serve as the contrasting H2 subject since it is classified under Science and Mathematics.

                  The contrasting subject requirement means must still do 1 math / science. Given that science is likely to be tougher (for her), better to live with math at H1. With A Math background, she can probably survive.

                  That said, the problem with Business and Accountancy, the 10th percentile IGP is ABB/B and AAB/C (using NUS as a reference). So she will need to score very well, no matter her subjects combination.

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                    Clar06
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                    Thank you all for the advice! Really greatly appreciated. Will really need to talk to her to weigh all the pros and cons… She seems lost right now and not keen to commit in any poly courses. Just thinking of JC since most of her friends are taking this route… so it’s like talking to a brick wall… But eventually if she choose the JC route, will just have to give her full support in terms of tuition. Can’t force her into something that she doesn’t want to do also…

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                    • sharonkhooS Offline
                      sharonkhoo
                      last edited by

                      floppy:
                      That said, the problem with Business and Accountancy, the 10th percentile IGP is ABB/B and AAB/C (using NUS as a reference). So she will need to score very well, no matter her subjects combination.

                      Well, the hope is that since she has dropped Sciences, her 3 H2 subjects will be more suited to her abilities and interests, and she can do better. That's what I told my daughter when she went to MI, and although she didn't do exceedingly well, she got into a course which she is interested in. A great relief to me!

                      Frankly, would a person who doesn't like Maths want to study Accountancy? I remember having a big fight with my father over this when I was 19. I still don't like numbers now, and can't imagine how I would have survived if I took Accountancy.

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                        Clar06
                        last edited by

                        pirate:
                        zac's mum:

                        [quote=\"Clar06\"]She got A1 for Lit, A2 for both Eng n Chinese, B3 for both E Math and Chem, C5 for A Math and Bio,C6 for combine humans. What I am really concern is her A Math, coz the few kids fm the same tutor managed to score As.. So it seems to be an indication that she has no flair for math.

                        The only courses she doesn’t mind is probably business studies, coz it’s most general. Optometry, Pharmaceutical all not interested.. sigh. Just feel that she wanted to go JC because most her friends are in that route..
                        Sorry for all the ranting :offtopic:

                        C5 for Biology should not consider Optometry or Pharmacy or Biotech at all dear.

                        A1 for Literature! She can do Literature for A levels (Arts course). I agree that H1 Math is still survivable with tuition. But Business studies (or Accounting) is IMO really not a good idea for those weak in Math.

                        Play to her strengths and interests. How about Mass Comm? Marketing? Or even Hospitality or Culinary Arts? Visual design?

                        No lah. H1 Math is redundant since she already got O-level A Maths. Degree courses that require H1 Maths equate that with O-level A Maths. Don't need all those high falutin A-level Mathematics concepts for Business Studies or Accountancy. My brother got dunno C5 or C6 for Add Maths but still got 1st Class from NUS Accountancy. Business Studies and Accountancy at NUS only require H1 Mathematics or O-level Additional Mathematics pass. She already has C-5 in A Maths. Can drop Mathematics altogether and concentrate on her GP and 3 H2 subjects.

                        Alternatively, since she is strong in English Lit and languages, go MI Art. Who knows? Maybe can get A for GP and 3 H2 A in her strong areas and still shoot for Law!

                        PS. I mention Law just to point out that the sky is still the limit for your dd. But that C6 in Combined Humanities need to examine the reason.[/quote]Her combined humanities came as a surprise to her as well.. but we note that the school didn’t do well in history dept, only 20% got distinction compared to 68% in geography and 45% in lit..

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