CHIJ St Nicholas Girls'

[phtthp]

Kimkar:

From my girl whose classmate scored 273 before HCL bonus point, in 2017. Not sure if there is any higher.

Thank you very much, Kimkar, for kind info.


230, is only the affliated T-score entry, into Secondary school (O-level track).


Anyone know, what was (were) the average T-score (mean), from (2018 / 2017 / 2016) most recent past three PSLE batches cohort ? Thank you.

[Fizz]

I remembered the mean was about 235 for 2017 cohort. It was not announced for 2018 cohort during PTC.

[ChiefKiasu]

Thanks, @phtthp. When I was a kid, we were given any information we want and our parents could not be bothered finding out what is happening in school. There was an implicit trust in the school. Things have radically changed. MOE wants parents to be more engaged, and yet withhold more and more information from parents. Sigh.

[floppy]

ChiefKiasu:

Thanks, @phtthp. When I was a kid, we were given any information we want and our parents could not be bothered finding out what is happening in school. There was an implicit trust in the school. Things have radically changed. MOE wants parents to be more engaged, and yet withhold more and more information from parents. Sigh.

While the data collected may be useful for statisticians and lawmakers to formulate policies, some of these information are, quite frankly, not useful for parents besides using them for comparison and one-upmanship. How is a school's overall statistics useful and / or have any bearing on an individual child's education / learning journey?

I think parents have to bear some of the blame, unfortunately.

[phtthp]

ChiefKiasu:

Thanks, @phtthp. When I was a kid, we were given any information we want and our parents could not be bothered finding out what is happening in school. There was an implicit trust in the school. Things have radically changed. MOE wants parents to be more engaged, and yet withhold more and more information from parents. Sigh.

Once all info been removed, everything become a black box (unknown mystery).

Of all info, we, current 2019 P6 batch parents, through whatsapp chat group, shared that the mean of cohort (per subject) ought to remain, because since PSLE 2019 September is coming less than 7 months from now, round the corner, without the average mean (cohort) disclosed, how to benchmark whether our child is doing ok or not ok, within the cohort, although we know that we should be doing our personal best?
Of all info available, this average mean (cohort) is the most useful, relevant and practical, to all P6 cohort students.

However, other kind of info disclosed like

a) the Highest score, per subject, achieved by cohort, or

b) who are the Top 3 pupils per class, or

c) who are the Top 15 percent pupils, falling within the cohort level, disclosed during year-end award ceremony in November, this type of info -

There is NO need to know, hence it is perfectly all right not to disclose, be cause it will only make the students much more highly competitive, especially. those pupils coming from the Top classes.

Example

Why would you want to know what's the Highest score achieved by cohort, for each of the 4 subjects, unless you are (happen to be) those students vying to be Top in standard, for that particular unique subject, inside the cohort ? But, to the rest of many other P6 students here, this info (Highest score) is of zero relevance, no use.

Yes, within St Nick school itself, there are some (certain) very highly competitive P6 students, that like to go around, asking to see (compare) their classmates' Report card content, subject by subject, because they want to benchmark : who do better, is it they or their classmates do better, than them ? It is this type of unhealthy competition that MOE, want to do away with.

[floppy]

phtthp:

...
without the average mean (cohort) disclosed, how to benchmark whether our child is doing ok or not ok, within the cohort, although we know that we should be doing our personal best?
...

phtthp:

...
There is NO need to know, hence it is perfectly all right not to disclose, be cause it will only make the students much more highly competitive, especially. those pupils coming from the Top classes.
...

Benchmark, compare...
One-upmanship, competitive...
Different words, same meaning.

If cohort mean is 240, your score is 200, what does it mean?
If cohort mean is 200, your score is 240, what does it mean?
And if one is doing his / her best, is his / her relative performance to the others relevant?
Shouldn't it be that the only mean that matters is your own? (which you already have the answer)

P/S: I think I'm being brainwashed by the MOE already

[phtthp]

Your answer, your interpretation, is Not quite what we are looking for. You have mis understood, sorry, peace

[phtthp]

MOE web had published the aggregate Tscore range (2018 PSLE batch), in case 2019 P6 St Nick primary students (born 2007) wish to know


source of info
https://beta.moe.gov.sg/schools/school-finder/

based on most recent 2018 PSLE results (born 2006)

OP abbreviation : O-level program


CHIJ family of All-Girls schools, affliated to Catholic Junior College (CJC)


1) CHIJ St Nicholas Girls’ School

Affiliated with: CHIJ St Nicholas Girls primary

IP : 255 to 280 (affliated to Eunoia Junior College, in Year 5)


OP (affliated pupils) : 230 to 260
OP (Non-affliation) : 253 to 263



the P6 girl (student) who scored 280, chose our St Nick (IP programme + SAP school), can be :-


i) 277 + 3 (HCL bonus points) or

ii) 278 + 2 (HCL bonus points) or

iii) 279 + 1 (HCL bonus point) or

iv) 280 + 0 (she may not have taken Higher Chinese)



2) CHIJ Toa Payoh Girls Secondary

Affiliated with: CHIJ Primary (Toa Payoh)

OP (affliated pupils) : 201 to 250
OP (Non-affliation) : 246 to 265


3) CHIJ St Theresa’s Convent

Affiliated with: CHIJ (Kellock), CHIJ Our Lady Queen of Peace

OP (affliated pupils) : 200 to 243
OP (Non-affliation) : 238 to 245


4) CHIJ St Joseph’s Convent

Affiliated with: CHIJ Our Lady of the Nativity, CHIJ Our Lady of Good Counsel

OP (affliated pupils) : 200 to 241
OP (Non-affliation) : 237 to 249


5) CHIJ Katong Convent

Affiliated with: CHIJ (Katong) primary

OP (affliated pupils) : 200 to 234
OP (Non-affliation) : 227 to 236


6) Catholic High

Affiliated with: Catholic primary (Junior)

IP : 254 to 267 (affliated to Eunoia Junior College, come Year 5)


OP (affliated pupils) : 240 to 253
OP (Non-affliation) : 251 to 259


other Schools


7) SCGS Girls Secondary

Affiliated with: Singapore Chinese Girls' primary

IP : 252 to 272 (affliated to Eunoia Junior College, in Year 5)


OP (affliated pupils) : 220 to 254
OP (Non-affliation) : 252 to 257



included SCGS, because SCGS (IP) girls will join St Nick (IP) girls, together with Catholic High (IP) boys (brothers), at Eunoia Junior College, in Year 5. Thus, SCGS and Catholic High are also part of our St Nick family (extended), besides our immediate big CHIJ family of girls.


end of December 2019 (this year) :
EJC will shift from Mount Sinai campus, into permanent Sin Ming huge, sprawling, beautiful premises, start operation wef 2020 January (next year). The brand new air-con library, built right at the Top of the 10-storey high building, is reserved for use, by our own EJC students. The library overlook into the serene, beautiful, peaceful, lush greenery, may see pictures below.

https://eunoiajc.moe.edu.sg/about/bishan/


After shift into permanent Sin Ming site (physical premises), we anticipate to see a steady, growing demand for Eunoia Junior College,

i) by Primary 6 students at PSLE,
ii) by Joint-Admission Exercise students, after Sec 4 students had taken their GCE \"O\" level, across Singapore


learn more about EJC

https://vimeo.com/219781954

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bdm2y8InN2b/?taken-by=eunoiajc

https://www.facebook.com/eunoiajc/videos/2081765762058028/

[Dahl]

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[jalyn22]

Hi.

If balloting is required in Phase 2A(1) and my daughter doesn’t get a place in this phase, is she automatically bumped to Phase 2A(2)? If so, does she have to go through balloting if this phase is also oversubscribed?

thanks.