* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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stetan\" post_id=\"1900909\" time=\"1551611968\" user_id=\"3358:
Ok, I should have said \" subjects\" like Econs, CSC...
Wah...try to backtrack now.....Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900868\" time=\"1551600290\" user_id=\"153793:
Chill lah...see that you upset..
Did i say other JCs all subjects did better than EJC?
I did praise EJC did well and some subjects scored well.
My point is 1 parent or some said EJC value added more than other single digit JCs which not true as it has subj eg Econ,CSC didnt fare that well.
On page 75 you said \"EJC results didnt do better than the rest of the top tier JCs lei...\"
So when you say results, you are ONLY talking about Econs??
If you are only talking about Econs, than why say resultSs? You could just say Econs unless you are just trying to mislead by telling a half-truth to taint EJC which proves once again you are a consummate liar. -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900891\" time=\"1551605618\" user_id=\"153793:
I made that statement and I stand by it. that statement was conditional on the fact that EJC COP was only 9 compared to some JCs that had 5 or 6. I also did show the COP of the JCs and there were 8 schools that had better COP than EJC and EJC's UAS of 82.4 was comparable to them e.g NJC and VJC. On the other hand, you showed no facts to substantiate your points except a single Econs result and 3 JCs of which 2 had 100% IP kids. As Vivian would say, you are just creating a red herring - information which is or is intended to be misleading.
People who read first statement: its telling us that other JCs with single digit COP didnt value add as much when Compared to EJC.
Isnt it what this statement mean?
Then you explain 'really value adding compared' mean what?
Unless I misinterpreted but i Didnt mislead the public bc I didnt say \"other single digit JCs really value added Compared to EJC\" such a statement.
From your last statement about \" your daughter Pri School....\" pls dont put words into my mouth...I will interpret and say \" your gal Pri Sch has done a good job\".
What num 1 school? -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900903\" time=\"1551609225\" user_id=\"153793:
Please provide the results of ALL the other subjects to prove your claim. Otherwise, you are again fabricating stories and a consummate liar again
Chill lah...EJC still did well but again not until it \" really value add compared to single digit JCs\"
Peace.
I am still waiting for it...... -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900912\" time=\"1551612675\" user_id=\"37400:
VJC is not full IP.
I made that statement and I stand by it. that statement was conditional on the fact that EJC COP was only 9 compared to some JCs that had 5 or 6. I also did show the COP of the JCs and there were 8 schools that had better COP than EJC and EJC's UAS of 82.4 was comparable to them e.g NJC and VJC. On the other hand, you showed no facts to substantiate your points except a single Econs result and 3 JCs of which 2 had 100% IP kids. As Vivian would say, you are just creating a red herring - information which is or is intended to be misleading.Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900891\" time=\"1551605618\" user_id=\"153793:
People who read first statement: its telling us that other JCs with single digit COP didnt value add as much when Compared to EJC.
Isnt it what this statement mean?
Then you explain 'really value adding compared' mean what?
Unless I misinterpreted but i Didnt mislead the public bc I didnt say \"other single digit JCs really value added Compared to EJC\" such a statement.
From your last statement about \" your daughter Pri School....\" pls dont put words into my mouth...I will interpret and say \" your gal Pri Sch has done a good job\".
What num 1 school?
EJC COP of 9 point consisted 25% JAE only, so 75% IP kids still more.
How u calculate EJC UAS 82.4 is comparable to the JCs with 5-6? Or what you mean by this statement? -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900914\" time=\"1551613223\" user_id=\"153793:
If I am not wrong, VJC UAS is around 83.x, EJC UAS is 82.4 - diff is 1.x points
VJC is not full IP.thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900912\" time=\"1551612675\" user_id=\"37400:
I made that statement and I stand by it. that statement was conditional on the fact that EJC COP was only 9 compared to some JCs that had 5 or 6. I also did show the COP of the JCs and there were 8 schools that had better COP than EJC and EJC's UAS of 82.4 was comparable to them e.g NJC and VJC. On the other hand, you showed no facts to substantiate your points except a single Econs result and 3 JCs of which 2 had 100% IP kids. As Vivian would say, you are just creating a red herring - information which is or is intended to be misleading.
EJC COP of 9 point consisted 25% JAE only, so 75% IP kids still more.
How u calculate EJC UAS 82.4 is comparable to the JCs with 5-6? Or what you mean by this statement?
VJC COP was 5 for science, EJC COP was 9 for science - diff is 4 points
Please do your own maths. -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900915\" time=\"1551613753\" user_id=\"37400:
If I am not wrong, VJC UAS is around 83.x, EJC UAS is 82.4 - diff is 1.x points
VJC is not full IP.Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900914\" time=\"1551613223\" user_id=\"153793:
[quote=thsheng99 post_id=1900912 time=1551612675 user_id=37400]
I made that statement and I stand by it. that statement was conditional on the fact that EJC COP was only 9 compared to some JCs that had 5 or 6. I also did show the COP of the JCs and there were 8 schools that had better COP than EJC and EJC's UAS of 82.4 was comparable to them e.g NJC and VJC. On the other hand, you showed no facts to substantiate your points except a single Econs result and 3 JCs of which 2 had 100% IP kids. As Vivian would say, you are just creating a red herring - information which is or is intended to be misleading.
EJC COP of 9 point consisted 25% JAE only, so 75% IP kids still more.
How u calculate EJC UAS 82.4 is comparable to the JCs with 5-6? Or what you mean by this statement?
VJC COP was 5 for science, EJC COP was 9 for science - diff is 4 points
Please do your own maths.[/quote]When Stetan advised me to use \" Econ\" instead of results....ok, i corrected myself.
You?
Btw, UAS diff of 1.x cant compare to COP of 4 points. -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900910\" time=\"1551612569\" user_id=\"153793:
What is CSC ? Care to share \"CSC\" performance vs all the top JCs?
Ok, I should have said \" subjects\" like Econs, CSC... -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900918\" time=\"1551614269\" user_id=\"153793:
When Stetan advised me to use \" Econ\" instead of results....ok, i corrected myself.
If I am not wrong, VJC UAS is around 83.x, EJC UAS is 82.4 - diff is 1.x pointsthsheng99\" post_id=\"1900915\" time=\"1551613753\" user_id=\"37400:
[quote=Grandyma post_id=1900914 time=1551613223 user_id=153793]
VJC is not full IP.
EJC COP of 9 point consisted 25% JAE only, so 75% IP kids still more.
How u calculate EJC UAS 82.4 is comparable to the JCs with 5-6? Or what you mean by this statement?
VJC COP was 5 for science, EJC COP was 9 for science - diff is 4 points
Please do your own maths.
You?
Btw, UAS diff of 1.x cant compare to COP of 4 points.[/quote]Then how should it be compared ? -
Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900888\" time=\"1551604795\" user_id=\"153793:
Just in case you're wondering why I posted a clarification note, it's because 'very good' was argued upon on Pg 75.
Alright. Thank you you too.
I wasn't referring to thsheng99's 'very well' and value-addedness.
Throwback 2010...
Value-addedness of IPJCs was no longer measured from 2007 cohort onwards.
\"With effect from 2008, Junior Colleges (JCs) that offer the Integrated Programme (IP) are no longer eligible for Value-Added (VA) awards based on their A-level performance (starting from the 2007 Alevel cohort). The affected JCs include Raffles Institution (JC), Hwa Chong Institution (JC), National JC, Victoria JC and Temasek JC. In addition, the JC sections of River Valley High School, Dunman High School and Anglo Chinese School (Independent) are also similarly ineligible for VA awards.\"
http://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/data/pdfdoc/20100926001/press_release_moa_2010.pdf
Fast-forward 2014...
Sustained Achievement Awards and Achievement Awards for Academic Value-addedness were removed by Heng Swee Keat. That means even non-IPJCs were no longer measured in this aspect.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/press-releases/moe-removes-secondary-school-banding-and-revamps-school-awards
There's no point in comparing because it's impossible to compare JCs' value-addedness now. IPJCs sometimes take in DSA students who may later attain a T-score that's lower than the school's final COP. How do we measure DSA student's VA vs S1 posted student's VA (COP) vs JAE student's VA (L1R5)?
Value-addedness is all based on the beneficiary's subjective perception.
Another EJ parent (snowyqueen on Pg 73) mentioned a girl scored U in one subject during J1 MYE, but eventually she scored 7 distinctions. So to this girl's parents, EJC arguably did very well and has value-added. -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900807\" time=\"1551578996\" user_id=\"37400:
Yes. I remember the sneaking into the gym of EJC incidence. That was by mindays who was eyeing NYJC for his child.obm\" post_id=\"1900781\" time=\"1551540930\" user_id=\"162988:
'Curious' until you had to sneak into other JC's hall on results day to snap pictures of other JC's slides? I cannot believe this. But why? What are you trying to prove? Prove that your granddaughter made the right choice?
. I recall 2 years ago, one fanatic even sneaked into EJC Open House to look at the gym. Goodness, poor Eunoia. So many creepy and curious people stalking your JC.
This Grandyma bears great resemblance to minday. :evil:
Her granddaughter in NYJC ? No wonder she is so upset about EJC's good performance.
woah woah, that is some baseless accusations made there by a nutter. I hope not all EJ's parents are like these :evil:
1. I went to EJC's compound during their open house because I was surveying the environment for my DS. Indeed, have I not seen the facilities with my own eyes, I wouldn't have exposed the lies made in this thread by some irresponsible forumners, or should I say, EJC's parents.
Using the word \"sneak\" shows how unprofessional you are with your language and how inciting you are to the community.
2. My DS went to VJ in the end, not NYJC. You might as well say I was eyeballing EJ since I went for their open house as well.
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