All About Home Addresses

[LC9]

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LC9\" post_id=\"1908558\" time=\"1556778081\" user_id=\"177322:

Ok, seems like I need to ask my tenant where the kids are enrolled.
I called up my intended school and seems like the distance will be based on the submitted nric. This will be a problem for me as I can't change my address yet.
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NRIC address is the standard answer for standard question. You should refer to MOE FAQ for non-standard questions.

Purchase of resale property / yet-to-move-in property will not reflect the new address BUT you are allowed to use them. In your case, it's a similar position except that you have already owned the property. You will have to proof or undertake that you are going to move in and occupy the property before commencement of P1 - not that difficult if you have a proper tenancy agreement showing end of lease as Sep 2019.

As for the tenant, if they use the address for registration, both you and the tenant will be flagged out. HOWEVER, it will be the tenant who will be paying the penalty for using a false address as they know they won't be able to stay in after Sep / before commencement of P1. There's a precedent for these sort of things, you can https://www.asiaone.com/false-addresses-and-p1-registration-moe-rules-and-qas-using-rental-addresses. As a result of the past cases, MOE had since set a new rule in 2015 requiring those gaining admission under the home-school distance priority scheme to live at the address for at least 30 months from the start of the registration exercise. Previously there was no specific length of time set. Thus, your tenant cannot feign ignorance.

Thanks floppy!
I've emailed moe and I hope to get a reply from them with details on what documentation I would need.
Cause the school admin said there's nothing I can do about it as they only see base on nric address.
I do have proper tenancy agreement. Hope that would help.

[floppy]

Estéema\" post_id=\"1908596\" time=\"1556784157\" user_id=\"66413:

Many years back, there were a lot of grey area. Hence, in 2015, MOE made the clarification and policy stand.

Whether tenant used the address last year is not the issue. Just like resale property (and it could be a 99 'lease' or a 999 'lease'), hundreds of people could have already used the address for P1 registration before you bought the house. 'When' you intend to take over legal possession of the property is the key. The tenant is NOT allowed to use the address after Sep 2019 as the owner will be taking back the property and will move in BEFORE the commencement of P1. BTW, owner should not be changing the address on his NRIC before the lease expired / moving in as that will be illegal.

[quote]Question:
I am in the midst of purchasing a new resale property. The transaction will be completed soon and I will be able to move in prior to the commencement of the academic year. Can I make use of this new address to register my child?

Answer:
The resale Housing & Development Board (HDB) flat's/ private property’s address can be used provided you are able to produce evidence from the relevant authority that you have committed to the purchase of this property and you are still in the midst of completing the purchase at the point of registration. In addition, you have to sign a letter of undertaking to move into the new property by 2 January of the admission year.

In the case of resale private property, the exercised Option-To-Purchase (OTP) together with the buyer’s Stamp Duty Certificate are the official documents required for the use of the resale private property address for P1 registration.

In the case of resale HDB flat, the resale flat application status indicating that HDB has received your application to buy a resale flat is required.

The resale flat application status can be retrieved and printed from the HDB Resale Portal under HDB e-Services.

A child who gains priority admission into a school through the home-school distance category using the address of the new resale property is required to reside at the new address for at least 30 months starting from 2 January of the admission year.

The above can also be read for a tenanted property. You show ownership of the property (in lieu of commitment to buy, since it's already yours) and the legal date of possession (i.e. when the tenancy will end). You have to sign a letter of undertaking to move into the new property by commencement of P1. You have to reside at the new address for at least 30 months from the commencement of P1.

As for tenant, if the tenant has already fulfilled the 30 months requirement, that's good for him. If not, bad news (and frankly, it's none of the owner's concern). In such case, the tenant probably has to look for another property in the same distance-priority to fulfil the 30 months requirement. MOE had also addressed this in their FAQ:

[quote]Question:
I am a tenant, but my lease does not extend for the full 30 months. Can I use the address to register my child?

Answer:
You should make arrangements to extend your lease accordingly, such that your child resides at the address for at least 30 months from the commencement of the P1 Registration Exercise on 28 June 2018 (this was last year's FAQ). If this condition is subsequently not met, MOE reserves the right to transfer your child out of the school to another school.[/quote]

[LC9]

Hi everyone,

I've received a reply from MOE. They said the address depends on the NRIC.
Seems like I won't be able to do anything about it then.

[floppy]

LC9\" post_id=\"1908675\" time=\"1556853586\" user_id=\"177322:

Hi everyone,
I've received a reply from MOE. They said the address depends on the NRIC.
Seems like I won't be able to do anything about it then.

I find this puzzling.

1. Buying a resale property with tenancy. Legal possession to take effect in Sep.
Ok to use the address.

2. Taking over a property with tenancy. Legal possession to take effect in Sep.
Not ok to use the address.

[zac's mum]

I don’t see why you as the landlord cannot just give the tenant early notice.


When I wanted to sell off my HDB, I gave my tenant early notice and in fact they were very grateful that I informed them earlier. So that they could use the next few weekends to hunt for a replacement rental unit. And they did, same block in fact. Earlier than I expected. So both sides were happy.

Even if your tenant has committed to the 30-month period, landlord terminating earlier is fine by MOE, just troublesome for the tenant to hunt around for a same-distance unit in replacement that’s all. Who knows, they may get a better price and thank you for it.

[Estéema]

Agree with zac’s mum suggestions.


Moving is never a walk in the park. However, my guess & sentiment is similar, that yr tenant might welcome the early notice to enable them to find somewhere within their distance priority & they might scoop a lower rent in their hunt.

Do aim for win-win outcome. If u discuss with yr tenant, they might appreciate yr need to make best effort to enrol ya child to yr preferred sch and afterall you own a property for yr purpose.

Let us know how yr discussion outcome with tenant. Hope everything works out well for you.

[LC9]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

Since the registration for my son will be next year, I’ve decided to try my luck to get into the PV program first. (statistics shows that all PV parents gets a place).
Currently I’m also staying at a rented place which means I would have to break my own tenancy agreement (have to pay for defaulting agreement). And current place is just next to my son’s kindy.
If all else fails, I will then discuss with my tenant and my own landlord.
Such a dilemma, didn’t realise they depend on address on NRIC. If I would have realised earlier I would have plan out both the rentals better. It’s my own fault.

[chanlm]

LC9 - I’m in the exact situation as you - MOE gave me a different reply. Basically said (1) register using docs showing ownership of property (2) show TA end date - must be before commencement of school year (3) undertake to change address in IC by commencement of school year

[Estéema]

Pls note the address you use for P1 enrollment will be the address MOE start sending all info & correspondence e.g. for Orientation, for reporting to school. If u’re using condo (ownership address), any correspondence will be sent to that address which might be a headache to co-ordinate & u might miss timeline. Just highlight possible problem.

[floppy]

chanlm\" post_id=\"1908824\" time=\"1556979109\" user_id=\"154302:

LC9 - I’m in the exact situation as you - MOE gave me a different reply. Basically said (1) register using docs showing ownership of property (2) show TA end date - must be before commencement of school year (3) undertake to change address in IC by commencement of school year

Which is what I said, and what I understand to be the case, but LC9 has a different answer