2019 P1 Registration Exercise for 2020 In-take

[howard1019]

Orb\" post_id=\"1919147\" time=\"1562898843\" user_id=\"25015:

howard1019\" post_id=\"1919142\" time=\"1562897947\" user_id=\"175129:

We stay around Tampines area, both Poi Ching & St. Hilda's are within 1KM, the rest schools within Tampines are within 1-2KM. We are SC and going to register under 2C phase.
St. Hilda's is too HOT to apply, so Poi Ching is our 1st choice, but look at the historical data, thinking it's high chance this year balloting will be required within 1KM. So better to have a backup plan. Considering Gongshang, Tampines, Junyuan, which one will be the best next choice? Any suggestions are welcome.

You need to set a threshold what ratio that you can tolerate. eg: 1:2 (50%), 1:3 (33%) per vacancy... once hit, time to withdraw and go to your backup plan.

If you are activating your backup plan in 2C, you should be avoiding schools that have balloting Don't waste your 2C chance. Also, do not get caught out as there is possibility of parents coming in last minute and squeezing you out triggering balloting within 1km in your backup school.

In phase 2CS, go for the schools that have plenty of vacancies so you need not go through the agony of balloting.

Good luck.

Orb thank you!
You are right, a threshold will be set for activating backup plan. whether go for another school under 2C. But also have to closely motioning other backup school list as well.

Thank you for your kindly suggestions. Now need to prepare the list..

[Lexy]

Davischew\" post_id=\"1919236\" time=\"1562911508\" user_id=\"132882:

kit_SG\" post_id=\"1919234\" time=\"1562911243\" user_id=\"175360:

Thanks for the replies to my earlier queries about TKPS. I am not quoting the thread to save screen space
Wanted to understand the application and withdrawal \"tricks\" in phase 2C.
MOE Website lists phase 2C registration as
Online registration : From 29 July 2019 to 31 July 2019
Registration at school : From 30 July 2019 to 1 August 2019

1) Does this means I have a choice to do online registration or do the registration at school?

2) If can register at school (from day 2), means I can wait till end of day one and check the websites who show number of applicants at end of day 1, to decide whether to risk for my 1st choice or activate the 2nd choice by going to school directly on day 2 or 3.
https://balloting.xyz does seem to have updates per day for this year.
Are there other sites as well, we can follow? Seems calling the school to ask for updates might not work all the time.

3) Can I register for a school on day 2 and based on end of day 2 stats go to the school and withdraw on day 3 and go to 2/3 choice on day 3 itself ? I understand we need to withdraw application before registering for a new school. Is this withdraw and new application process possible within the same phase? or I must wait for phase 2C results and withdraw and register during 2CS

In other chat groups it seems lot of parents are registering and withdrawing easily. So I was wondering if this \"gaming\" the system really works.
Thanks in advance for guidance / feedback.

Withdrawal can be same phase, even same day or next hour. Must bring both parents' ID to submit.

Also dont be fool into thinking its easy, withdrawing and registering is no mean feat. Which parent station at which school? withdraw at 230pm, or 330pm? what is the best route to travel to the next school? will you be on time? during the same time, are other parents doing the same thing?

[howard1019]

Davischew\" post_id=\"1919148\" time=\"1562898911\" user_id=\"132882:

floppy\" post_id=\"1919143\" time=\"1562898445\" user_id=\"97579:

[quote=howard1019 post_id=1919142 time=1562897947 user_id=175129]We stay around Tampines area, both Poi Ching & St. Hilda's are within 1KM, the rest schools within Tampines are within 1-2KM. We are SC and going to register under 2C phase.
St. Hilda's is too HOT to apply, so Poi Ching is our 1st choice, but look at the historical data, thinking it's high chance this year balloting will be required within 1KM. So better to have a backup plan. Considering Gongshang, Tampines, Junyuan, which one will be the best next choice? Any suggestions are welcome.

What do you mean by backup plan? Phase 2Cs backup? Or alternatives to Poi Ching?

Phase 2C:
Gongshang will also ballot < 1km like St Hilda, Poi Ching. Just out of the fire, but back into the flying pan.
Junyuan shoo-in for < 1km but may ballot > 1km.
Tampines shoo-In for SC.

Based on current TUR of 35% after 2A1, Poi Ching has a very high chance not to ballot for <1km and even if ballot is high odds. 2A2 should add another 9% to 44% TUR at 2A2, which is historically low. I would suggest to monitor and go in on last 2C day.

St. Hilda can forget about it, too risky.[/quote]Thank you Davischew, yes. If look the history. This year seems like have more seats compare with last years at the same phase. But worry about the applicants will jump once reached 2C. Need to keep eye open big and watch.

We will totally forget about St. Hilda....not dare to try...

[Lexy]

jongj80\" post_id=\"1919209\" time=\"1562906809\" user_id=\"168898:

Lexy\" post_id=\"1919204\" time=\"1562906134\" user_id=\"12180:

[quote=jongj80 post_id=1919195 time=1562905351 user_id=168898]OK, consideration for 2B (Catholic) PR > 2km, for twin boy and girl. Is there any chance for PR balloting in 2B for SJI Junior and CHIJ TP? Since we qualify for 2B anyway, but I was told usually SC have to ballot. I also don't know what we will do if one of them gets in... do we pull out and stick to co-ed options, or try another school nearby so school run won't be mad...

Backup for 2C is Bukit Timah (further away) or Queenstown (nearby), both which are co-ed. I quite like the mix of nationalities in BTPS but worried it is quite small and further away. QTPS don't know much, but seems bigger and its nearby, although I see a lot of construction happening. Is QTPS popular? I hear BTPS is safe. I didn't hear much about NewTown so not considering. Appreciate your views on the 2C options. We stay <1km QTPS/NYPS.

Both SJI and CHIJ TPY will be filled up with SC during 2B, do not consider.

Have you considered de lasalle? Co ed catholic school. Both kids can go same school and you can secure during 2B

Yes, but was concerned about distance. Hence why we considered BTPS or QTPS. We are catholic, but the options seem far from where we live and I think distance plays a impt factor[/quote]Given earlier scenario of entering into both SJI + CHIJ TPY (which is equally if not further), I wonder why distance become a concern for de lasalle?

QTS, should be filled with SC. too many developments there and recent years the take up rate is raising.

You are left with bukit merah area like cantonment, gan eng seng, blangah rise or clementi area like Clementi and pei tong and BTPS as you mentioned. If you prefer BTPS over say De lasalle, then i think you can proceed to 2C with BTPS. If you have a preferred school under 2C that may have harder chance like QTPS, you may want to secure a school at 2B first, as a PR, 2C is a fight zone you really want to avoid.

I think i say enough.

[howard1019]

floppy\" post_id=\"1919160\" time=\"1562900615\" user_id=\"97579:

Davischew\" post_id=\"1919148\" time=\"1562898911\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=floppy post_id=1919143 time=1562898445 user_id=97579]

What do you mean by backup plan? Phase 2Cs backup? Or alternatives to Poi Ching?

Phase 2C:
Gongshang will also ballot < 1km like St Hilda, Poi Ching. Just out of the fire, but back into the flying pan.
Junyuan shoo-in for < 1km but may ballot > 1km.
Tampines shoo-In for SC.

Based on current TUR of 35% after 2A1, Poi Ching has a very high chance not to ballot for <1km and even if ballot is high odds. 2A2 should add another 9% to 44% TUR at 2A2, which is historically low. I would suggest to monitor and go in on last 2C day.

St. Hilda can forget about it, too risky.

While statistics about TUR etc is good, considering them in silo usually doesn't work well. Geographical considerations are also important.

Firstly, schools in close proximity to one another 'suffer' together (high density). If TUR before Phase 2C is low, it encourages switchers. E.g. Poi Ching may have historically low TUR before Phase 2C this year, thus leaving plenty of seats for Phase 2C. It encourages applicants who might otherwise have considered Gongshang, Junyuan, St Hilda, Tampines North, Tampines or Yumin (depending on location, these schools are also < 1km of Poi Ching catchment area) to go for Poi Ching in Phase 2C instead. Singaporeans like a good g4mble, maybe this is their chance

Furthermore, I expect to see a spike for Poi Ching's application from 2019 and beyond. There's a YUGE project going on in Tampines North with a lot (and I do mean A LOT) of flats under construction in and around Tampines Ave 6 and Tampines St 61. For residents occupying these projects, there is only ONE school within 1km. The school's name? Poi Ching Estimated TOP? 2019 onwards :yikes: More than 30 blocks of flats and only 1 school within 1 km? Good luck to them :evil:

P/S: For the above, one school that shares similar switchers mentality - Chong Fu. Low TUR before Phase 2C means zilch. Plenty of lurkers < 1km who might consider other schools within 1km (plenty of options) will switch if the chance is high. For sudden spike, it happens to a much lesser known school - Punggol Green. From a school with surplus in Phase 2Cs, to a school that requires ballot for SC < 1km within 1 year, because Punggol Green is the only < 1km school for a huge number of BTOs.[/quote]floppy, you hit the point! The huge BTOs beside AVE 9 are ready to move in...so for this year, I am sure more applicants will come to Poi Ching during 2C. :scared: :yikes: Good Luck to myself :xedfingers:

[tinywings]

If u plan to withdrawing and re-registering, best to go to the school B that you plan to re-register, to personally ask (nicely) with the Admin.


What happened to me last year was the Admin discouraged me at 3pm (last day) from withdrawing from my school A. Because at that point already has SC > 2km need to ballot. She said no point for me to take the risk. Really a heart attack moment not for the faint hearted.

Take note also if your area has a lot of new BTOs flats. As this would be a game-changer.

[floppy]

Trinius\" post_id=\"1919202\" time=\"1562905955\" user_id=\"179376:

Need advise as I’m in a Dilemma. I’m currently trying Rosyth Primary under 2A2 but the take up rate is pretty high and we might end up balloting. So if we don’t get a seat, my other choices...

1) nan Chiau Primary (within 1km)
2) St Gabriel Primary (more than 2KM)

Actually St Gab also falls under 2A2 but we went ahead with Rosyth instead.

Would u think we might stand a chance for nan Chiau ? The applicant rates Super high and it’s worrying too.

Hopefully we succeed with Rosyth but gotta prepare for the worse scenario too.

Here’s the not so good news - Rosyth may make up the mind for you.

If you are within 1km of NCPS, you will not be within 1km of Rosyth. Given that there are only 23 places left for Phase 2A2, you may not get a chance at all. Hence, you may be left with St Gab for Phase 2A2 and NCPS for Phase 2C. You may want to wait till the second day to register at Rosyth to save you the hassle of withdrawing and re-applying.

[howard1019]

floppy\" post_id=\"1919188\" time=\"1562903833\" user_id=\"97579:

howard1019\" post_id=\"1919170\" time=\"1562901459\" user_id=\"175129:

...
Both Junyuan and Tampines will be safe for us to apply in both 2C and 2CS. Is Tampines better than Junyuan? :roll:

None of these schools are safe for 2CS. You may not even get a chance at these two schools for 2CS. You will have to monitor carefully.

I checked the data for these 2 schools again... :yikes: :yikes: up to 2A1, this year TUR already higher than average...this year will not be easy... :shock:

[jongj80]

Hi Lexy,


Thanks. We figured BTPS is about 15mins drive which we could do school run and go to work. De La Salle seems quite a bit further and would have to be school bus. We did not realise QTS is so hard to get in, might have to explore more. We quite liked BTPS, was just thinking about finding something closer (QTS is 5mins drive). But if it is a risk for PR at 2C, then we might just do BTPS.

I’ll relook the 2B options and see if there are other catholic schools we want to secure first, and then review the 2C situation. Thanks!

[/quote]

Yes, but was concerned about distance. Hence why we considered BTPS or QTPS. We are catholic, but the options seem far from where we live and I think distance plays a impt factor
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Given earlier scenario of entering into both SJI + CHIJ TPY (which is equally if not further), I wonder why distance become a concern for de lasalle?

QTS, should be filled with SC. too many developments there and recent years the take up rate is raising.

You are left with bukit merah area like cantonment, gan eng seng, blangah rise or clementi area like Clementi and pei tong and BTPS as you mentioned. If you prefer BTPS over say De lasalle, then i think you can proceed to 2C with BTPS. If you have a preferred school under 2C that may have harder chance like QTPS, you may want to secure a school at 2B first, as a PR, 2C is a fight zone you really want to avoid.

I think i say enough.
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[grace2011]

Lexy\" post_id=\"1919248\" time=\"1562912824\" user_id=\"12180:

jongj80\" post_id=\"1919209\" time=\"1562906809\" user_id=\"168898:

[quote=Lexy post_id=1919204 time=1562906134 user_id=12180]

Both SJI and CHIJ TPY will be filled up with SC during 2B, do not consider.

Have you considered de lasalle? Co ed catholic school. Both kids can go same school and you can secure during 2B

Yes, but was concerned about distance. Hence why we considered BTPS or QTPS. We are catholic, but the options seem far from where we live and I think distance plays a impt factor

Given earlier scenario of entering into both SJI + CHIJ TPY (which is equally if not further), I wonder why distance become a concern for de lasalle?

QTS, should be filled with SC. too many developments there and recent years the take up rate is raising.

You are left with bukit merah area like cantonment, gan eng seng, blangah rise or clementi area like Clementi and pei tong and BTPS as you mentioned. If you prefer BTPS over say De lasalle, then i think you can proceed to 2C with BTPS. If you have a preferred school under 2C that may have harder chance like QTPS, you may want to secure a school at 2B first, as a PR, 2C is a fight zone you really want to avoid.

I think i say enough.[/quote]But from Queenstown area to De lasalle is really far. I used to travel in opposite direction for half a year to send my girl to Alexandra and the travelling time is really no joke. Kid also had to wake up very early before 6am. So do consider carefully for the distance and time taken for travelling.