2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[zac's mum]

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the rubrics for Oral are to gauge whether the child can talk. As long as not off-topic, I think should still be ok if she keeps talking...eg. I really cannot think of any date right now, because I’m very nervous so my brain has freezed up. Could you help me out a bit with some examples please? Blah blah blah...


I don’t think the examiner is looking for a correct precise answer, as in if she says National Day is 1st January she will be marked zero.

[mummyofone]

Yes, it’s conversation, not question and answer.

But this type of question, to a rich and engaging conversation Plus good vocab, like I said, setting the second day kids up to do not as well as the first day.

[phtthp]

FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1929539\" time=\"1565973082\" user_id=\"105816:

Just curious, the allocation of oral is done by Seab, and not the school right? As in whether you get English or Chinese oral in day 1? Any Teachers here can advise? Because in general those parents who get chinese oral on first day are feeling very unhappy and unfair, as seen from my parents group chat comments.

Also, it is up to teacher to ask /tweak the questions and order of questions asked right? Because after showing the questions shared by study room today to my dd, she represented none of them were hers but cannot recall her exact questions yet she is very sure that they were not phrased the same way as those floating in the internet...

She was very impressed by the examiners though, claiming that they speak perfect BBC English and 央视chinese! I burst out laughing at her comments, oh well at least she enjoyed her oral experience for both days. She claimed the English examiner commented her favourite book seems very interesting and would like to borrow to read too so she is very happy, that’s my silly girl lor. Thank god she had friendly examiners on both days!

Your co-ed SAP school is the one that arrange how the students are going to be grouped, for Oral.
SEAB isn't the one that decide use what kind of method : is it go by the normal, usual class index number or otherwise, how to bunch up the p6 students, by cluster (by grouping)

In some primary schools, the \"otherwise\" method can include

1) bunch those students who are taking Higher Chinese in one group together, while bunch those students taking Standard Chinese into another different group, from those taking Higher Chinese

Or

2) group by recent p6 sa1 mid-year Chinese performance results.
Those scored A * (91 and above) for Chinese P6 SA1 in 2019 May, bunch them up together, form another group, etc.

There are reasons behind, why some schools want to cluster this way

After the grouping arrangement is settled by your own school internally, whether session 1 or session 2 students on each Oral day (Day 1 and Day 2), going to get easier or harder (tougher) questions, for the same language tested :

nobody will know, until AFTER both Oral days are over, and parents here start to share & compare the different set of topic questions asked.

In a way, it is by sheer luck, whether session 1 group Oral questions are easier or tougher, compared to session 2 group Oral questions posed, across 2 different days

[phtthp]

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[dylanmummy2003]

mummyofone\" post_id=\"1929582\" time=\"1566008051\" user_id=\"97320:

But examiner didn't ask how do you ensure you don't forget this important date.
Only, Tell me a date you don't forget.
And done.

Same, DD was asked the exact same question also.
When she replied PSLE exam dates, the examiner did not prompt further.

Hope she did not lose too many marks due to this answer.
For the examiner who dozed off, she say he has his fist on his cheek, nodding on and off, only till the last question that the other examiner nudge him, then he lift his head up and look at my gal.

[tryourbest]

Very unprofessional for him to do that....if need the other party to nudge him, then confirm already. National Exam how can like this...


He never 'lim kopi' in the morning is it? or he'd rather 'lim kopi' at MOE? don't understand..

[phtthp]

Exactly!

Where got people doze off like that in front of students, during national exam Oral setting. Too much, this invigilator, should report to moe because he is paid to do the job

He is supposed to do his part in evaluating candidates for Oral. Then if he doze off, how is the candidate going to get marks from him, for that part or portion which he is responsible for ?

[sembgal]

mummyofone\" post_id=\"1929582\" time=\"1566008051\" user_id=\"97320:

sembgal\" post_id=\"1929574\" time=\"1566007179\" user_id=\"5559:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1929566 time=1566005941 user_id=35251]All this asking about one date, why is it even important to the EL Oral? To test p6 student forgetfulness if they remember anything or what ?

What if student really can't remember any date at all, dont know how to answer ? Get zero score, for this qn, penalized for not bring able to recall / remember any single date ?

Why so weird suddenly ask for date, in EL Oral?
1st time come across psle eng oral, asking for dates, or is it a new psle starting trend, involving number games in English oral ? This is a language exam, not some Maths number national exam

Any EL Oral examiner or invigilator here, can help to answer: will the child get zero mark, if child can't supply any date at all ?

My dd was not even asked about the date. She told me this question was not asked at all. Forgetfulness is somehow related to the value: responsibility. The conclusion must link back to the topic how you can avoid being forgetful in future, what you can do to remember etc.

But examiner didn't ask how do you ensure you don't forget this important date.
Only, Tell me a date you don't forget.
And done.[/quote]Pardon me for not elaborating earlier that the examiner asked, “Have you ever forgotten something before?” He did not ask Tell me about a date you did not forget.

[mummyofone]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1929620\" time=\"1566016971\" user_id=\"35251:

Exactly!
Where got people doze off like that in front of students, during national exam Oral setting. Too much, this invigilator, should report to moe because he is paid to do the job

The kidscan tell the teacher or principal of the school. They should handle from there.
Think no choice then need to call SEAB.
Teacher sure get into trouble though after that.
Sad case.

[phtthp]

some of us starting Prelim next week (19 to 23 Aug, Monday to Friday),


while other schools starting Prelim the following week (26 to 30 Aug)

Jiayou (x3), everyone !