2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[lee_yl]

Nethan Nerella\" post_id=\"1938753\" time=\"1569851600\" user_id=\"178724:[quote=\"Nethan Nerella\" post_id=1938753 time=1569851600 user_id=178724]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"1938748\" time=\"1569849043\" user_id=\"17023:

Ya I'm really scared. Oh boy....😰

If indeed it’s a challenging Science paper tomorrow, remember to stay calm. Tell yourself, if you can’t do it, many also can’t, so don’t panic.

[newbieks]

Any controversial questions in chinese paper 2 today?

[manorway]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1938661\" time=\"1569834669\" user_id=\"35251:

jj_1808\" post_id=\"1938647\" time=\"1569831639\" user_id=\"31403:

Sharing a letter from a mum to Minister Ong on the PSLE paper this year.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157494188889477&id=535164476

Actually for 2019 Maths, those heavy 4 marks or 5 marks questions towards the end of Paper 2, are more \"Maths olympaid\" and Heuristics type of questions set, to differentiate P6 students from getting an A vs. A *

On one hand, someone bound to comment that
\"Ya lah, is like that wan mah, every year without fail, SEAB sure got to set a few tough questions !\". One forummer ever indicated this kind of meaning before, if check backwards.

However, on the other hand, in Mainstream schools (Non gep) -
Those P6 students who never attend any \"MO\" training before will lose out, because they have never received MO training before. MO is offered for upper primary P5 and P6 students, for full solid 2 years in primary schools. In some schools. Some kiasu schools even received (started) MO training earlier at P4, means in Total, 3 years.

Is it any wonder then, that these students will sail (breeze) through this year 2019 Maths, while those who never attend any MO at all, struggled ?

After all, those of us know that those worksheets from \"My Pals are Here \" are kind of useless, because none of these, ever prepare students to solve MO questions.

The logical question then we need to ask SEAB is,

Isn't it unfair to set those 4 and 5 marks \"MO\" questions, when NOT all P6 Mainstream students have the same, equal fair chance to receive \"in-house\" MO training, because so far, who get to receive free MO training in schools ? They are

A)
- GEP students, because the MO Maths questions are built in, designed already into the GEP (P4 to P6 ) curriculum,

And

B)
- those \"High ability\" Mainstream students, who were selected by their respective primary schools at either end of P3, or P4, to attend \"High ability\" MO free training lessons, in schools


Those P6 Mainstream students, who never receive any chance (opportunity) to smell nor experienced free \"MO\" training, everyday just keep practising those ordinary, not helpful \"My Pals are Here\" series, or keep practising tonnes and mountain high piked up stack and stack of past year papers, is it any wonder then that they are shocked, stoned, taken aback, stunned by these \"MO\" 4 / 5 heavy marks set inside Paper 2 this year, and cried (depressed ) ?


So, question is, why did SEAB
set heavy 4 / 5 marks Paper 2 questions, knowing that only a subset of P6 students had received this privileged, coveted free MO training in school, while Majority of P6 students did not receive ?

Isn't this very unfair, right from beginning ?

I mean, if want to test funny tough questions, make it fair -
That ALL p6 students, from beginning of P5 Term 1, regardless of whether you from Gep or from Non Gep, from high ability or from Non high ability Maths class students, All ought to have received free MO training, then Yes, test them all, because everyone stand on fair, EQUAL fighting battle ground, because everyone had been taught MO concepts. Then only is this considered fair and square !!!

Another key, important point -
If you want to help someone who is in need of help, who do u think u should extend a hand out, to help ?

Help those High ability students, who can already manage well on their own, through attending expensive, high end tuition in Maths paid by their parents, since they are doing so well in Maths ?

Or

Help those poor, weaker students, who need further help and greater support, in overcoming their fear of Maths ?

Answer -
Should be helping those weak students, helping those Non-high ability students, to overcome jump over the hurdle, help them strengthen their Maths

Very curious. How do parents gauged the questions set are Math Olympaid questions? Where to see the questions?

The 3 questions mentioned by that parent in her FB post to OYK are not unusual questions. I spoke to some friends whose kids took PSLE the last few years and they all said such questions have appeared in the past, year after year.
So such questions should not be new to students who practised tons of past year papers.

Say 40k kids sat for PSLE this year. How do parents get an assessment of how much tougher this year's paper was compared to last year?!

Based on how many kids' verdicts? Was there a survey done already?

[anxious.01501dad]

TGP666\" post_id=\"1938740\" time=\"1569848060\" user_id=\"181285:

Nethan Nerella\" post_id=\"1938735\" time=\"1569847094\" user_id=\"178724:[quote=\"Nethan Nerella\" post_id=1938735 time=1569847094 user_id=178724]

Wrong. No. 1 is correct

Please listen to yourself. How can a bicycle helmet be flexible 😂

Idk the answer is flexible(My school prelim paper)[/quote]The main purpose of the helmet is to protect the head during an impact. To achieve this, it must have a certain degree of flexibility in order to absorb the shock. The helmet comprises many layers, and the internal construction is often made of foam to achieve this function. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet

[phtthp]

Manorway,


Is your child P6 this year

Or

Not P6 this year

Or going to be P6 one day, trying to glean info from 2019 p6 parents ?

Or had sat for Psle before, many moon back ?

From the way u pose qn, can tell that u are not 2019 p6 parent. Even if u claim to be one, nah, don’t believe, because in the manner u asked, u have given yourself away

[manorway]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1938764\" time=\"1569857915\" user_id=\"35251:

Manorway,

Is your child P6 this year

Or

Not P6 this year

Or going to be P6 one day, trying to glean info from 2019 p6 parents ?

Or had sat for Psle before, many moon back ?

From the way u pose qn, can tell that u are not 2019 p6 parent. Even if u claim to be one, nah, don't believe, because in the manner u asked, u have given yourself away

Gee!!! Did I claim to be parent of a p6 kid?

You used to be one of those whom I have always thought to be very helpful and knowledgeable parents of this forum. Lately you have really been way too aggressive.

I stated on first line of the earlier post, I was very curious. This is a forum for discussion, as you have stated repeatedly in your aggressive replies to many others lately, so I was curious and I asked questions.

Cannot meh?!!

If you don’t feel like answering, don’t.

[phtthp]

You are right, don’t feel like answering. Sorry

[manorway]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1938771\" time=\"1569859376\" user_id=\"35251:

You are right, don't feel like answering. Sorry

I am only interested in rational replies anyway.

[bluepencil]

It’s been a long journey to psle for all of us. We had our frustration , our kids may have had their tiredness and perhaps anger even.

We have walked through 4 tests and exams in 9’months as we had Mar CAs still. 9 months of test , phew, exams , phew, so on.At one point you become numb.
Some of us might have felt shortchanged when instruction in our schools have not been exhaustive. There is after all so much to grapple with in Math towards the end of P6 when harder topics came in. Which method to use was also an issue when a child learnt all.
Looking at textbook is not ideal as for eg, patterns are not in it
Naturally all of us have been tested.
Who wants to come to the end of the journey to find out that instruction could be better in one area rather than instruction was given but somehow the question was hard to do …
Empathy for one another is the best we can do after exams …

[GLORYmum]

manorway\" post_id=\"1938762\" time=\"1569855319\" user_id=\"9303:

phtthp\" post_id=\"1938661\" time=\"1569834669\" user_id=\"35251:

[quote=jj_1808 post_id=1938647 time=1569831639 user_id=31403]Sharing a letter from a mum to Minister Ong on the PSLE paper this year.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157494188889477&id=535164476

Actually for 2019 Maths, those heavy 4 marks or 5 marks questions towards the end of Paper 2, are more \"Maths olympaid\" and Heuristics type of questions set, to differentiate P6 students from getting an A vs. A *

On one hand, someone bound to comment that
\"Ya lah, is like that wan mah, every year without fail, SEAB sure got to set a few tough questions !\". One forummer ever indicated this kind of meaning before, if check backwards.

However, on the other hand, in Mainstream schools (Non gep) -
Those P6 students who never attend any \"MO\" training before will lose out, because they have never received MO training before. MO is offered for upper primary P5 and P6 students, for full solid 2 years in primary schools. In some schools. Some kiasu schools even received (started) MO training earlier at P4, means in Total, 3 years.

Is it any wonder then, that these students will sail (breeze) through this year 2019 Maths, while those who never attend any MO at all, struggled ?

After all, those of us know that those worksheets from \"My Pals are Here \" are kind of useless, because none of these, ever prepare students to solve MO questions.

The logical question then we need to ask SEAB is,

Isn't it unfair to set those 4 and 5 marks \"MO\" questions, when NOT all P6 Mainstream students have the same, equal fair chance to receive \"in-house\" MO training, because so far, who get to receive free MO training in schools ? They are

A)
- GEP students, because the MO Maths questions are built in, designed already into the GEP (P4 to P6 ) curriculum,

And

B)
- those \"High ability\" Mainstream students, who were selected by their respective primary schools at either end of P3, or P4, to attend \"High ability\" MO free training lessons, in schools


Those P6 Mainstream students, who never receive any chance (opportunity) to smell nor experienced free \"MO\" training, everyday just keep practising those ordinary, not helpful \"My Pals are Here\" series, or keep practising tonnes and mountain high piked up stack and stack of past year papers, is it any wonder then that they are shocked, stoned, taken aback, stunned by these \"MO\" 4 / 5 heavy marks set inside Paper 2 this year, and cried (depressed ) ?


So, question is, why did SEAB
set heavy 4 / 5 marks Paper 2 questions, knowing that only a subset of P6 students had received this privileged, coveted free MO training in school, while Majority of P6 students did not receive ?

Isn't this very unfair, right from beginning ?

I mean, if want to test funny tough questions, make it fair -
That ALL p6 students, from beginning of P5 Term 1, regardless of whether you from Gep or from Non Gep, from high ability or from Non high ability Maths class students, All ought to have received free MO training, then Yes, test them all, because everyone stand on fair, EQUAL fighting battle ground, because everyone had been taught MO concepts. Then only is this considered fair and square !!!

Another key, important point -
If you want to help someone who is in need of help, who do u think u should extend a hand out, to help ?

Help those High ability students, who can already manage well on their own, through attending expensive, high end tuition in Maths paid by their parents, since they are doing so well in Maths ?

Or

Help those poor, weaker students, who need further help and greater support, in overcoming their fear of Maths ?

Answer -
Should be helping those weak students, helping those Non-high ability students, to overcome jump over the hurdle, help them strengthen their Maths

Very curious. How do parents gauged the questions set are Math Olympaid questions? Where to see the questions?

The 3 questions mentioned by that parent in her FB post to OYK are not unusual questions. I spoke to some friends whose kids took PSLE the last few years and they all said such questions have appeared in the past, year after year.
So such questions should not be new to students who practised tons of past year papers.

Say 40k kids sat for PSLE this year. How do parents get an assessment of how much tougher this year's paper was compared to last year?!

Based on how many kids' verdicts? Was there a survey done already?[/quote]If parents had experience from past PSLE, their expectations would be better managed. Difficult questions were many more in the past than now provided that the 3 questions circulating in social media are indeed the only more challenging ones this year.