2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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PSLEfrantic\" post_id=\"1941353\" time=\"1571137603\" user_id=\"181521:
School results are hard to relate to psle tscore. Even within the same school, the difficulty of exam papers change. My kids school exam papers used to be harder in lower levels. Not sure if it will be the same for the higher levels.
So tough. 75 marks to me is a good result yet is so tough in term of T score. Few years ago (psle 2010 to 2012) I heard of children with school results in the range of 60s able to get 232 to 236 for T score. Recent years like so impossible.
But for psle standard, 75 to 79 are considered good, hence grade A in old system. Hence 4 As to get 230 to 235 is possible. -
FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1940941\" time=\"1570885018\" user_id=\"105816:
Hi FDL,
Yeah not too bad for those staying in the east actually. If it swings the other way between 230 to 245, still have:
Temasek Sec
Ngee Ann Sec
Tkgs
TKss
Ahs
cchm
Katong convent
And etc choices...
Noticed that those secondary OP schools located in the east, that offer Express stream only, usually require at least minimum, at least around 230-235 -
6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941360\" time=\"1571141854\" user_id=\"145858:
Thanks. That is comforting
School results are hard to relate to psle tscore. Even within the same school, the difficulty of exam papers change. My kids school exam papers used to be harder in lower levels. Not sure if it will be the same for the higher levels.PSLEfrantic\" post_id=\"1941353\" time=\"1571137603\" user_id=\"181521:
So tough. 75 marks to me is a good result yet is so tough in term of T score. Few years ago (psle 2010 to 2012) I heard of children with school results in the range of 60s able to get 232 to 236 for T score. Recent years like so impossible.
But for psle standard, 75 to 79 are considered good, hence grade A in old system. Hence 4 As to get 230 to 235 is possible.
Praying for God's blessing.
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6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941018\" time=\"1570964852\" user_id=\"145858:
Hi 6thisnthat9,
I have to re-read to make sure this is not a trick question?? coming from a veteran of KSPphtthp\" post_id=\"1941009\" time=\"1570960793\" user_id=\"35251:
anyone know,
this year ( 2019), Total how many thousands of P6 students sat for 2019 PSLE ?
Is it true that, based on past years' trend
Top 10% is above 265
Top 30% is above 250
Top 50% is above 230 ?
What I gathered so far,
262 or 263 is top 3-5%
252 or 253 is top 10%
230 is top 30-35%?
p6 ~ 39k?
You are correct
After asked one guru, guru explain that assuming 280 is the highest Top Tscore in a psle batch, although now we do not know what is the Highest Tscore anymore since MOE forbid revealing (disclose) , computation wise, guru explained the basis of calculation, for Top 10 % of Psle cohort ...
Last year, from 2018 batch, born 2006, one P6 student scored 280, she entered St Nick (IP)
Info source (under IP category)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7118
a)
Assuming that 280 is the Highest Tscore, for last year (2018) batch.
(Note : assuming only, because
1) Moe forbid disclosure strictly and
2) from above \"sis.moe.gov.sg\" website, the highest Tscore captured or recorded for 2018 Psle batch, was 280.
We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore.
However, note that this Moe website only captured Non-DSA students' Tscore.
There is a missing segment of info.
If there happen to be any DSA student whose Tscore is much higher than 280, it won't be reflected under this Moe website Secondary school info )
Ok, let's continue
10 % from 280 Tscore, is
0.1 x 280 = 28 points
Take (280 - 28) = 252 points
Based on above basis of calculation, what do we end up with ?
we end up with 252, & 252 is indeed above 250.
That's why many people said that Top 10% of entire Psle cohort, with thousands of P6 students, is approximately > = 250 (and above).
b)
How about Top 3 percent of Psle cohort ?
it is computed as
0.03 x 280 = 8.4 points
Take (280 - 8.4 ) = 271.6
so, those who scored 271.6 and above, fall under Top 3 % of entire Psle cohort
c)
How about Top 5 % of Psle cohort ?
it is
0.05 x 280 = 14 points
Take (280 - 14) = 266
So, those scored 266 and above, belong to Top 5% of Psle cohort
( guru explained that from calculation, one can understand clearer / better, for Top 10% only ) -
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phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
Hi 6thisnthat9,
I have to re-read to make sure this is not a trick question?? coming from a veteran of KSP6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941018\" time=\"1570964852\" user_id=\"145858:
[quote=phtthp post_id=1941009 time=1570960793 user_id=35251]anyone know,
this year ( 2019), Total how many thousands of P6 students sat for 2019 PSLE ?
Is it true that, based on past years' trend
Top 10% is above 265
Top 30% is above 250
Top 50% is above 230 ?
What I gathered so far,
262 or 263 is top 3-5%
252 or 253 is top 10%
230 is top 30-35%?
p6 ~ 39k?
You are correct
After asked one guru, guru said that assuming 280 is the highest Top Tscore in a psle batch, although now we do not know what is the Highest Tscore anymore since MOE forbid revealing (disclose) , computation wise, guru explained the basis of calculation, for Top 10 % of Psle cohort ...
Last year, from 2018 batch, born 2006, one P6 student scored 280, she entered St Nick (IP)
Info source (under IP category)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7118
a)
Assuming that 280 is the Highest Tscore, for last year (2018) batch.
(Note : assuming only, bec Moe forbid disclosure)
10 % from 280 Tscore, is
0.1 x 280 = 28 points
Take (280 - 28) = 252 points
Based on above basis of calculation, what do we end up with ?
we end up with 252, & 252 is indeed above 250.
That's why many people said that Top 10% of entire Psle cohort, with thousands of P6 students, is approximately > = 250 (and above).
b)
How about Top 3 percent of Psle cohort ?
it is computed as
0.03 x 280 = 8.4 points
Take (280 - 8.4 ) = 271.6
so, those who scored 271.6 and above, fall under Top 3 % of entire Psle cohort
c)
How about Top 5 % of Psle cohort ?
it is
0.05 x 280 = 14 points
Take (280 - 14) = 266
So, those scored 266 and above, belong to Top 5% of Psle cohort
( guru explained that from calculation, then can understand clearer / better)[/quote]Is there anyone scoring 280 (before adding HCL) for last year psle? I heard highest was only 27X. Since we do not know the actual highest tscore, every year we just assume a number?
Easier to go by MOE’s EESIS cut-off (top 3%) which was around 262 last year?
For top 10% last year was 252, I think? That’s the cut-off for taking French/German/Jap as 3rd Lang. Top 30% probably is the tscore of the last student eligible to take Malay, Indon etc as 3rd Lang. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1941387\" time=\"1571153243:
perhaps, that girl who entered St Nick (IP) scored 277 (+3 Distinction bonus points for Higher Chinese, since St Nick is a SAP school). She entered by Psle Tscore entry, not by Dsa
Is there anyone scoring 280 (before adding HCL) for last year psle? I heard highest was only 27X. Since we do not know the actual highest tscore, every year we just assume a number?6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1941018\" time=\"1570964852\" user_id=\"145858:
I have to re-read to make sure this is not a trick question?? coming from a veteran of KSP
What I gathered so far,
262 or 263 is top 3-5%
252 or 253 Is top 10%
Easier to go by MOE’s EESIS cut-off (top 3%) which was around 262 last year?
For top 10% last year was 252, I think? That’s the cut-off for taking French/German/Japanese as 3rd Lang. Top 30% probably is the tscore of the last student eligible to take Malay, Indon etc as 3rd Lang.
Answer
We will never know if any 2018 P6 candidate scored above 280, because even if there is one or more, DSA students' Tscore are Not reflected inside that Moe Secondary 1 booklet. -
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phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
Just a note that it is not compulsory for each local sec 1 to study in a secondary school that is listed in SIS. A local sec 1 can opt to homeschool, go overseas, or go to the International Schools.
We all know that it is compulsory, for every local Sec 1 student to study in a Secondary school. And this website contained info for All Secondary schools in Singapore, providing info concerning the lowest (minimum) Cut-off point, and the highest Tscore, PER Secondary school. Thus from here, one can track (monitor), which school has the HIGHEST Tscore. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1941387\" time=\"1571153243\" user_id=\"17023:
Is there anyone scoring 280 (before adding HCL) for last year psle? I heard highest was only 27X. Since we do not know the actual highest tscore, every year we just assume a number?
Hi 6thisnthat9,phtthp\" post_id=\"1941383\" time=\"1571151513\" user_id=\"35251:
[quote=6thisnthat9 post_id=1941018 time=1570964852 user_id=145858]
I have to re-read to make sure this is not a trick question?? coming from a veteran of KSP
What I gathered so far,
262 or 263 is top 3-5%
252 or 253 is top 10%
230 is top 30-35%?
p6 ~ 39k?
You are correct
After asked one guru, guru said that assuming 280 is the highest Top Tscore in a psle batch, although now we do not know what is the Highest Tscore anymore since MOE forbid revealing (disclose) , computation wise, guru explained the basis of calculation, for Top 10 % of Psle cohort ...
Last year, from 2018 batch, born 2006, one P6 student scored 280, she entered St Nick (IP)
Info source (under IP category)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=7118
a)
Assuming that 280 is the Highest Tscore, for last year (2018) batch.
(Note : assuming only, bec Moe forbid disclosure)
10 % from 280 Tscore, is
0.1 x 280 = 28 points
Take (280 - 28) = 252 points
Based on above basis of calculation, what do we end up with ?
we end up with 252, & 252 is indeed above 250.
That's why many people said that Top 10% of entire Psle cohort, with thousands of P6 students, is approximately > = 250 (and above).
b)
How about Top 3 percent of Psle cohort ?
it is computed as
0.03 x 280 = 8.4 points
Take (280 - 8.4 ) = 271.6
so, those who scored 271.6 and above, fall under Top 3 % of entire Psle cohort
c)
How about Top 5 % of Psle cohort ?
it is
0.05 x 280 = 14 points
Take (280 - 14) = 266
So, those scored 266 and above, belong to Top 5% of Psle cohort
( guru explained that from calculation, then can understand clearer / better)
Easier to go by MOE’s EESIS cut-off (top 3%) which was around 262 last year?
For top 10% last year was 252, I think? That’s the cut-off for taking French/German/Jap as 3rd Lang. Top 30% probably is the tscore of the last student eligible to take Malay, Indon etc as 3rd Lang.[/quote]Based on MOE's website, EESIS has been replaced by ESIS.
On eligibility for ESIS, the top 1/3 of those admitted to Independent Schools (which we know the COP is around 252) should be more than 1/3 of the top 10% who are eligible for the Integrated Programme. There are 8 independent schools of which half offering full IP. To compute this, we need to know total number of places under IP in these IS.
Hence, population scoring 262 or above should be between 3% to 10% of those P6 taking PSLE.
Just noticed something new to me, different from what I previously gathered. Eligibility by default for higher Chinese is top 10%? Is this new? (Edited. Missed out point 2, at least a merit in higher chinese of the top 30% ).
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