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    * Eunoia JC (EJC)

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    • E Offline
      erikaa123
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      "2017, EJC is NOT a known JC. It’s a brand new JC, located in a holding site, with limited and outdated facilities. Oh, and the pioneer batch will never get to see / smell / touch the new campus. Yes, there may have been some fanfare related to its launch, but IIRC, most of it were jokes being made about its name. Therefore… no. It is unlikely that 9 to 11 pointers would choose it as 1 of their top choices in 2017 considering that the following established JC are available: ACJC, TJC, SAJC, AJC, CJC etc.


      Yet, surprisingly, EJC COP for 2017 is 9 / 9, which means they are at least attracting some of the NJC, NYJC, ACJC crowd - despite limited and outdated facilities, no track record, etc. That doesn’t look ‘natural’ for a first year JC. While MOE probably would not want empty classrooms or idling teachers, I would not be surprised that for the first year, there could be some ‘control’ being exercised while the kinks are being ironed out - which would also be very typical of the civil service approach - try a bit, "have some guinea pigs", work out the differences, full steam ahead."

      I said "known JC" But its not equal to " well known" but many talks about this IP JC which attract below 10 pointers.
      Not all kids choose schools based on location/facilities.

      Yes 9-11 pointers may not choose Ejc as lst choice but among 6 options.
      9-11 pointers choose est AJC,SAJC,CJC?
      Nah…
      While still have kids choose these JCs but a handful maybe.
      2017 cop shows SAJC,CJC,AJC 11 or more.

      Guinea pigs?
      MOE would have reserved less than 210 places earlier n not wait till posting results.
      Like RV and DHS, it reserved 90-100 as it knows its campus size etc…

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        jtoh
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        No JC will retain 100+ students. Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
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          jtoh\" post_id=\"1941842\" time=\"1571316844\" user_id=\"19505:

          No JC will retain 100+ students.

          Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)
          Hi jtoh,

          What u said above, is your own conclusion drawn, based on common sense.

          All of us know that u also do not have any son nor daughter studying inside EJC or ever before, as your child already grown up, in university now. Yes, in ksp, although u are given counsellor status by Chief kiasu, but still you don't have any kid that has to do with EJC, this is a fact. Your daughter already graduated long time ago, from RI

          Now, we need to verify the truth

          Whoever that person is, in this forum, by first posting the original message that

          \"129 out of 529 2017 JC1 candidates repeat JC1\" -

          We all wish to verify, whether what this person posted, is true or not, because if u look back at the way this person posted and the way and the manner, he or she posted, the tone sounded so confident, as if had some insight info.

          Reason?

          Because

          If what this person posted is false info indeed, then this piece of info released will put future ( parents and current 2019 P6 students who just sat for Psle) and who are going to exercise DSA exercise option next Monday 21 Oct, those who are given IP Integrated programme DSA offer from (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) to join Eunoia JC, minds at ease.

          Then, the next logical question we want to pursue is, in the event the info is wrong,

          why is this person so mean, malicious, hateful to EJC, purposely post wrong info in this EJC thread, to mislead public ?
          What is his (her) intention behind in the first case, to purposely post wrong info ?

          However, if is the other way round instead, if what the info posted above turn out to be true, then 2019 P6 parents and students going to exercise DSA option next Monday (21 Oct) for IP, will have a real cause for concern

          Hence, jtoh,

          appreciate if u can kindly please stand aside, do not intervene, because u are not in our position, as u do not have any kid going to choose EJC, thus u do not understand the state of our mind (2019 P6 parents mind) going to exercise DSA option next Monday, as some of us could be in dilemma now in decision making

          And also, this is an Internal matter, to be settled by P6 (parents and students) from various primary schools all over Singapore who have been offered DSA CO / Waitlist from

          (SNGS / SCGS / CHS)

          Today is already Friday (18 Oct)

          =====================

          Let us verify the statement posted by above who claim about \"129 JC1 students repeat \"


          Dear All 2019 (JC1 and JC2) current EJC students and parents from Eunoia Junior College, or anyone else who know the truth

          Appreciate if someone amongst u, can bravely step forward, speak up boldly, confirm and clarify, clear the air, whether what that person posted above, the claim -

          Is it true or false, based on All PMT (Parents Meet Teacher) sessions between u (parent) and Principal of EJC, or from your class Form Teacher or subject Tr, as well as all the briefing, given by Principal so far ?

          If the figure (129) is indeed false, then what is the actual figure that the Principal had shared at briefing, for repeat students, so as to allay the fear of 2019 P6 parents, who will join EJC in coming future, in Year 2024 ?

          Thank you very much, with gratitude and appreciation

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            jtoh
            last edited by

            phtthp\" post_id=\"1941907\" time=\"1571369780\" user_id=\"35251:

            jtoh\" post_id=\"1941842\" time=\"1571316844\" user_id=\"19505:

            No JC will retain 100+ students.

            Simple logistics will not allow it. Unless they take in 100 less students from the incoming batch. (And why would they do that?)

            Hi jtoh,

            What u said above, is your own conclusion drawn, based on common sense.

            All of us know that u also do not have any son nor daughter studying inside EJC or ever before, as your child already grown up, in university now. Yes, in ksp, although u are given counsellor status by Chief kiasu, but still you don't have any kid that has to do with EJC, this is a fact. Your daughter already graduated long time ago, from RI

            Now, we need to verify the truth

            Whoever that person is, in this forum, by first posting the original message that

            \"129 out of 529 2017 JC1 candidates repeat JC1\" -

            We all wish to verify, whether what this person posted, is true or not, because if u look back at the way this person posted and the way and the manner, he or she posted, the tone sounded so confident, as if had some insight info.

            Reason?

            Because

            If what this person posted is false info indeed, then this piece of info released will put future ( parents and current 2019 P6 students who just sat for Psle) and who are going to exercise DSA exercise option next Monday 21 Oct, those who are given IP Integrated programme DSA offer from (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) to join Eunoia JC, minds at ease.

            Then, the next logical question we want to pursue is, in the event the info is wrong,

            why is this person so mean, malicious, hateful to EJC, purposely post wrong info in this EJC thread, to mislead public ?
            What is his (her) intention behind in the first case, to purposely post wrong info ?

            However, if is the other way round instead, if what the info posted above turn out to be true, then 2019 P6 parents and students going to exercise DSA option next Monday (21 Oct) for IP, will have a real cause for concern

            Hence, jtoh,

            appreciate if u can kindly please stand aside, do not intervene, because u are not in our position, as u do not have any kid going to choose EJC, thus u do not understand the state of our mind (2019 P6 parents mind) going to exercise DSA option next Monday, as some of us could be in dilemma now in decision making

            And also, this is an Internal matter, to be settled by P6 (parents and students) from various primary schools all over Singapore who have been offered DSA CO / Waitlist from

            (SNGS / SCGS / CHS)

            Today is already Friday (18 Oct)

            =====================

            Let us verify the statement posted by above who claim about \"129 JC1 students repeat \"


            Dear All 2019 (JC1 and JC2) current EJC students and parents from Eunoia Junior College,

            Appreciate if someone amongst u, can bravely step forward, confirm and clarify, clear the air, whether what that person posted above, the claim -

            Is it true or false, based on All PMT (Parents Meet Teacher) sessions between u (parent) and Principal of EJC, as well as all the briefing, given by Principal so far ?

            If the figure (129) is indeed false, then what is the actual figure that the Principal had shared at briefing, for repeat students, so as to allay the fear of 2019 P6 parents, who will join EJC in coming future, in Year 2024 ?

            Thank you very much, with gratitude and appreciation

            I am merely stating my opinion that based on simple logistics and common sense, no JC will retain 100+ students. I think that most people would be able to see that logically, no JC would retain that number of students. But for those who aren't able to, nothing wrong with an injection of sensibility. While this is a public forum, we should exercise some discretion before posting or repeating comments which amount to scaremongering. If some choose to cast logic to the wind, then by all means call the school, as some are wont to do as witnessed by their frequent calls to many schools.

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
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              jtoh\" post_id=\"1941918\" time=\"1571372500\" user_id=\"19505:


              I am merely stating my opinion that based on simple logistics and common sense, no JC will retain 100+ students. I think that most people would be able to see that logically, no JC would retain that number of students. But for those who aren't able to, nothing wrong with an injection of sensibility. While this is a public forum, we should exercise some discretion before posting or repeating comments which amount to scaremongering. If some choose to cast logic to the wind, then by all means call the school, as some are wont to do as witnessed by their frequent calls to many schools.
              We have heard u, jtoh, loud and clear.

              As mentioned before, jtoh, u do not understand the mental state of mind for 2019 p6 parents exercising dsa option now over the week end, before Mon (21 Oct)

              Because

              Once we cast our die, accept IP dsa offer, for the next 6 years, we will be stuck to the school. Moe forbid us to change school, if accept DSA

              We are just trying to establish the truth, that's all : whether what the person claim above, is true or false

              Is it so hard to purse Truth, over a claim made by someone in this forum ?
              Or do u all prefer to let the claim, be swept under the carpet ?

              You mean, in the position of a counsellor, even u want to obstruct us, from pursuing truth ?

              I have nothing more to say.

              Period

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              • J Offline
                jtoh
                last edited by

                phtthp\" post_id=\"1941822\" time=\"1571304637\" user_id=\"35251:

                MyPillow\" post_id=\"1941756\" time=\"1571291443\" user_id=\"70594:


                Sometimes, retain may be better for students if their foundations are not strong - J2 will be difficult & intense as its A level year. Teachers should be a fair mix with experiences - moreover Ejc is IP sch, i m confident MOE send well mixed pool of educators there.

                not sure whether

                1) is it due to 3 feeder sch, 3 diff standards pouring in ejc ?

                2) IP subject content vs O level - which grp has been prep with better exam /A level foundations - how is the disparity in standards? - all these can be factors to impact on teachings by teachers ..

                It is indeed a \"worry\" factor if the retain % is high :?

                in Upper (Sec 3 and 4) IP, the crucial years of foundation built

                shouldn't these three IP schools HOD (SCGS, SNGS, CHS) have come together, synchronized in harmony what they want to teach (cover) inside their Upper Sec IP curriculum, so that when students come over into Year 5 EJC, everyone is on common ground ?

                is only those JAE (OP) students, that need to catch up with whatever had been taught before previously, in IP (Y3 and Y4), because that was what the JAE students had missed out, while they were busy preparing for GCE \"O\" level

                Actually the three schools do coordinate their teaching in secondary school. They've been doing this for several years, since the programme came into being and even before. The HODs have regular meetings to consult, share and coordinate. And yes, I have insight into the schools. But since I've been asked not to comment and 'intervene', I shall decline from sharing more information.

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                  jtoh
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                  phtthp\" post_id=\"1941920\" time=\"1571372973\" user_id=\"35251:

                  jtoh\" post_id=\"1941918\" time=\"1571372500\" user_id=\"19505:


                  I am merely stating my opinion that based on simple logistics and common sense, no JC will retain 100+ students. I think that most people would be able to see that logically, no JC would retain that number of students. But for those who aren't able to, nothing wrong with an injection of sensibility. While this is a public forum, we should exercise some discretion before posting or repeating comments which amount to scaremongering. If some choose to cast logic to the wind, then by all means call the school, as some are wont to do as witnessed by their frequent calls to many schools.

                  We have heard u, jtoh, loud and clear.

                  As mentioned before, jtoh, u do not understand the mental state of mind for 2019 p6 parents exercising dsa option now over the week end, before Mon (21 Oct)

                  We are just trying to establish the truth, that's all.

                  You mean, in the position of a counsellor, u want to obstruct us, from knowing the truth ?

                  I have nothing more to say.

                  Period

                  Dear lord, how am I trying to stop you from finding out the truth? By all means do what you must to ascertain the truth, if the truth is what you seek to calm your unsettled state of mind.

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                  • phtthpP Offline
                    phtthp
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                    Sorry for saying this, but appreciate if kindly step aside, jtoh,

                    because none of the above comments made by u, is going to help any of us here, 2019 P6 parents making dsa decision now over weekend

                    Now what we need is the Truth. Nothing but the truth, to above claim. That’s all. Hopefully, what that person claimed, is false

                    Period

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                    • doodbugD Offline
                      doodbug
                      last edited by

                      Hi Phtthp,


                      I am not sure about SNGS and CHS - as for SCGS, the Open House is on 21 Nov 2019. There is always an EJC representative, or some SCGS IP representative who will be able to answer questions on EJC. Perhaps you may wish to attend, and find out more?

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                        qms
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                        phtthp\" post_id=\"1941924\" time=\"1571373852\" user_id=\"35251:

                        Kindly step aside, jtoh,
                        because none of the above comments made by u, is going to help any of us here, 2019 P6 parents making dsa decision now over weekend

                        Now what we need is the Truth. Nothing but the truth, to above claim. That's all.


                        The more comments u made, instead of helping us, u \"pour\" oil to the fire. Period
                        It's rude of you to make such comments. We are all here to share and to make sense into information that have been shared. You certainly have no right to tell or request other members to step aside. This, and earlier posts that you made.

                        If the situation is so urgent and crucial as you put it, please call the school directly. You have been asking for the truth yet you failed to see the logic. The whole discussion started from this:
                        erikaa123\" post_id=\"1941723\" time=\"1571282332\" user_id=\"181130:
                        ST reported 14/1/17 EJC has 440 IP and 210 JAE for pioneer batch.
                        2018 A level cohort was 529.
                        So about 129 retained in J1. Thats many!
                        The current P while in SRJC was well known to retain J1.

                        Read extracted ST news:
                        \"The school now has about 440 Joint Integrated Programme students from Catholic High School, CHIJ St Nicholas Girls' School and Singapore Chinese Girls' School. Three were offered places via the Direct School Admission Exercise. On Feb 3, they will be joined by 210 students coming in through the O levels.\"
                        It's your perogative if you chose to only believe in the above. However, telling other members trying to put some sense into the \"belief\" to step aside is not something a KSP.com Grandmaster should do.

                        Please be careful in what you post.

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