2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[mengsan]

Stevenlsf\" post_id=\"1948107\" time=\"1574430917\" user_id=\"69371:

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1948091\" time=\"1574427207\" user_id=\"122721:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1948083 time=1574424838 user_id=35251]
The higher your raw Tscore, you will enter first

If 2019 COP for River Valley High is indeed 252 this year, then


252 +0 (those never taken HCL), will enter into RV (IP) first, before any

251 +1 (pass, for HCL), who will in turn also enter into RV (IP) first, before any

250 +2 (merit, for HCL)


It is your original Raw T-score, that take precedence first

i believe ur interpretation is incorrect. T-score with HMT bonus points included are tteated like raw score for admission priority into SAP schools regardless IP or not.

this is also my understanding. Anyone can help to confirm again? Thanks.[/quote]I not too sure abt that, maybe someone can quote the MOE guidelines just to confirm?? Thanks

[jakoh]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1947970\" time=\"1574408224\" user_id=\"122721:

jakoh\" post_id=\"1947851\" time=\"1574398632\" user_id=\"151698:

Thanks, Mengshan!

Ha btw, as this forum is very active, how do i reply tagging to the specific note such that the person can relate to it? Just don't seem to find any way to do it...

To do tat, click on the apostrophe \" in the upper right corner of each message

Cool! Got it! Thanks, Timmy21!

[jakoh]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1947970\" time=\"1574408224\" user_id=\"122721:

jakoh\" post_id=\"1947851\" time=\"1574398632\" user_id=\"151698:

Thanks, Mengshan!

Ha btw, as this forum is very active, how do i reply tagging to the specific note such that the person can relate to it? Just don't seem to find any way to do it...

To do tat, click on the apostrophe \" in the upper right corner of each message

Cool! Got it! Thanks, Timmy21!

[Hynion]

Jk1975\" post_id=\"1948075\" time=\"1574422754\" user_id=\"182468:

Hi,

I got 258 T Score. I would like to try RI (boys)based on last 2 years cut off point..Any suggestions?

No harm to try if you are interested in RI.

[PSLEfrantic]

floppy\" post_id=\"1947892\" time=\"1574402355\" user_id=\"97579:

MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1947881\" time=\"1574401678\" user_id=\"182449:

[quote=floppy post_id=1947827 time=1574395605 user_id=97579]

There’s a reason why “analysts” would prefer to look at median t-score instead of range of students’ t-scores or COP. You can get the info from MOE’s SIS.

As an example, you can look at Whitley for an example of a wide range of t-scores: 188 to 251 and Punggol as an example of a narrow range: 201 to 233.
Median of Whitley is 207 while Punggol median is 205.
If both schools are of a similar size, Whitley may actually have a stronger cohort despite having a much lower COP.

You can also contrast the above with Guangyang Sec, another school with a wide range of t-score: 188 to 251. Median is 203. If schools are of a similar size, Guangyang’s cohort could be the weakest of the lot, despite having a similar range as Whitley.

The reasons for the above are varied but location, familiarity seems to be a big factor.

P/S: why only mummies can answer?

Thank you. Ok, I will Google on MOE’SIS.
Sound complicated... on median scores. Will analyse.

The sch - jus neighbourhood, jus hoping for a better cohorts. So higher median would be better - ranger than looking at its range of COP, right?
:snuggles:
Btw, Daddy and mummies are all welcome!
Thank u all for ur replies & advices.

SIS here: https://sis.moe.gov.sg/?viewmode=viewfullsite

In simple terms, median is the midpoint of the cohort. Eg in Whitley’s case, 50% of the cohort scores better than 207 (207 to 251) while 50% scores less than that (188 to 207).

There’s no better or worst, or higher means better. It all depends on what you are looking for. For example, if a school has a range of 205 to 225 but median 207, it means the cohort strength is fairly equal (whereas in Whitley’s case, the better or even average students are quite far apart from their weakest).[/quote]This is very useful! Thank you parent. So should we prefer far apart or fairly close as a better school?

[jakoh]

1) To be eligible for Third Language, candidate got to be top 10% in psle aggregate - Is this an official criteria for eligible stated by MOE?


2) It’s good to acquire another language but I’m not sure if my daughter is able to cope… i) Does she has to take through her just 4yrs or 6yrs IP? Can she drop the 3rd language if she realise the load is overwhelming? iii) Does taking/dropping 3rd language has any implication to L1R5?

[floppy]

PSLEfrantic\" post_id=\"1948123\" time=\"1574435115\" user_id=\"181521:

floppy\" post_id=\"1947892\" time=\"1574402355\" user_id=\"97579:

SIS here: https://sis.moe.gov.sg/?viewmode=viewfullsite

In simple terms, median is the midpoint of the cohort. Eg in Whitley’s case, 50% of the cohort scores better than 207 (207 to 251) while 50% scores less than that (188 to 207).

There’s no better or worst, or higher means better. It all depends on what you are looking for. For example, if a school has a range of 205 to 225 but median 207, it means the cohort strength is fairly equal (whereas in Whitley’s case, the better or even average students are quite far apart from their weakest).

This is very useful! Thank you parent. So should we prefer far apart or fairly close as a better school?

Generally, most students would benefit if their score is close to the median, i.e. they are not too strong and not too weak relative to their cohort. Since schools typically set their pace according to the strength of their cohort, the student is unlikely to have to slow down considerably for their weaker school mates or to speed up to catch up with their stronger mates.

[love1001]

Someone told me this. If school cohort is strong, they will be using New Syllabus Mathematics which is meant for above average students.


If weaker intake, school will use Discovering Mathematics. From the textbooks books they use, will roughly know the standard.

I prefer school with closer median. If possible, will avoid schools that takes in affiliate students at 188-200 for Express stream. Unless students are streamed by ability, learning pace will be slowed down.

[jakoh]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1948062\" time=\"1574417304\" user_id=\"122721:

Dino\" post_id=\"1948054\" time=\"1574416158\" user_id=\"6726:

This being said, does that mean that someone who scores less than 250, for example 240 - 249 can also choose IP in their choices?

everyone has his or her own approach but here's my personal take on how to use the 6 choices for non-affiliated students:
(1) start with the 6th choice instead of the other way round. put a \"guarantee, confirm plus chop\" safety net choice (let's say 12 points below the child's T-score) tat u can still accept (or barely accept). By doing so, at least u avoid the situation where all 6 choices were unsuccessful n u let MOE decide ur fate (which was wat happened last year to many students)
(2) use 1st choice for super dream school, can try even if it seems out of reach becos fortune favours the bold, right?
(3) use 2nd choice for a 50/50 chance dream school
(4) put serious and long thoughts into the 3rd, 4th and 5th choices for realistic schools within the reach of the child's T-score
Best of luck to all. :xedfingers:

Very good strategy! Makes a lot of sense, be bold yet safe approach! 👍🏻

[Timmy21]

mengsan\" post_id=\"1948114\" time=\"1574432560\" user_id=\"31254:

Stevenlsf\" post_id=\"1948107\" time=\"1574430917\" user_id=\"69371:

[quote=Timmy21 post_id=1948091 time=1574427207 user_id=122721]
i believe ur interpretation is incorrect. T-score with HMT bonus points included are tteated like raw score for admission priority into SAP schools regardless IP or not.

this is also my understanding. Anyone can help to confirm again? Thanks.

I not too sure abt that, maybe someone can quote the MOE guidelines just to confirm?? Thanks[/quote]on page 9 of \"Choosing your Sec Sch 2020\" issued by MOE to all parents, under section 8.4b, it is clearly stated that \"If your child is in the top 30% of the PSLE cohort who have taken Higher Chinese at the PSLE, they will be given bonus points for admission to SAP schools\"
and under section 10.1 & 10.2, it is stated \"A student with a better aggregate score will be considered for admission first, subject to the availability of vacancies in the selected school\".