2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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Hi, I am quiet new and I would like to seek your feedback on the 6 choices we suggested for my daughter. her tscore is 255+2 and we stay near Queenstown area. We are focusing a bit on girl schools and SAP schools. Thanks.
1)NYGH (last year COP 258, SAP)
2)CHIJ ST Nicks(255, SAP)
3)Dunman High(256, SAP)
4)RV(252, SAP)
5)Cedar(253)
6)Nan Hua(245, SAP) -
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Manorway,
The way i would approach this is to list out the schools within 50min travel reach (this is my limit) that offers the NA/NT class. Then list the ALP of these schools. Then rank them according to how old/new the facilities or school compound is. Then choose. Can go to the sch website to learn more about their ALP.
I seen \"sleepy\" and upgraded sec sch before, so i know what she meant. I know of people who chose further schools (more than an hour travel) for bigger nicer compound and better programs though that kid was much older eg ITE age.
Some sch ALP are open to all streams. It is the sch niche programme that all students get to go through at least the basic tier training. (eg https://www.boonlaysec.moe.edu.sg/holistic-development/applied-learning-programme-alp/)
Perhaps because the kid is weak, subj combo and cca does not matter as they will take whichever comes along and try their best. In my generation, my parents never look at subj combi or cca. They look at distance and facilities too (not too old) .
As for travelling, it could be because sch hours are generally shorter for them, they don't mind spending it on travelling or having a nice student corner in sch to spend in than loitering in the mall.
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Thank you Jedamum, you are right! They think going to a sleepy-looking school is demoralising when there are nicer looking environments to go to, and even if it means spending 3 hours a day on public transport, it is worth it.
Ironic as they said kid would be too tired if she must take bus for 30 min/one way to tuition in her p5/6 years.
They think nicer environment means happier kid so more mood to study. Even if the ALP is for all in the school, after going through the experience, if she fails her exams because too tired/no time to study/revise, is there any use? Still must sit for NA exams.
Frankly, I am not sure about how much good the ALP will do for her. -
eelynnah\" post_id=\"1948915\" time=\"1574647237\" user_id=\"28296:
Good selection - as long as you are happy with any of the 6. You should comfortably get a place in either 2, 3 or 4 - just don’t know which one. 5 or 6 as contingencies but unlikely to be activated.
Hi, I am quiet new and I would like to seek your feedback on the 6 choices we suggested for my daughter. her tscore is 255+2 and we stay near Queenstown area. We are focusing a bit on girl schools and SAP schools. Thanks.
1)NYGH (last year COP 258, SAP)
2)CHIJ ST Nicks(255, SAP)
3)Dunman High(256, SAP)
4)RV(252, SAP)
5)Cedar(253)
6)Nan Hua(245, SAP) -
eelynnah\" post_id=\"1948915\" time=\"1574647237\" user_id=\"28296:
NYGH :
Hi, I am quiet new and I would like to seek your feedback on the 6 choices we suggested for my daughter. her tscore is 255+2 and we stay near Queenstown area. We are focusing a bit on girl schools and SAP schools. Thanks.
1)NYGH (last year COP 258, SAP)
2)CHIJ ST Nicks(255, SAP)
3)Dunman High(256, SAP)
4)RV(252, SAP)
5)Cedar(253)
6)Nan Hua(245, SAP)
doubt it will fall to 255 +2 = 257, this year. Even 258 was rare, because if refer past years, NYGH COP usually fall inside 26x range
your daughter most likely enter Sngs (SAP)
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manorway\" post_id=\"1948916\" time=\"1574647372\" user_id=\"9303:
Your concerns are very valid too.
Thank you Jedamum, you are right! They think going to a sleepy-looking school is demoralising when there are nicer looking environments to go to, and even if it means spending 3 hours a day on public transport, it is worth it.
Ironic as they said kid would be too tired if she must take bus for 30 min/one way to tuition in her p5/6 years.
They think nicer environment means happier kid so more mood to study. Even if the ALP is for all in the school, after going through the experience, if she fails her exams because too tired/no time to study/revise, is there any use? Still must sit for NA exams.
Frankly, I am not sure about how much good the ALP will do for her.
That's why i think max 50min travel is pushing it.
Let the parents know about it and also how they can go about shortlisting the schools. A listing table to also include academic performance of school helps too. With that they can have a clearer picture whether ALP or academic is more priority for them (sometimes you can replicate academic support outside school via tuition but ALP niche learning and exposure may not be so, and the parents may just want that to excite the kid and boost her morale). Then hopefully they can find and eligible for the school that they find fitting. -
Hope to get some help here…
My daughter got 252+2HMT. Base on past year COP, she can select SCGS IP. We went to the Open House on Sat and the school is not only nice (just upgraded, and I believe it’s also well-rounded with the right level of academic rigor. In fact, my daughter loves the school.
However, the fact that SCGS IP will ultimately lead to EJC (no choice, die-die must go), which I don’t quite like the idea.
1) Alternatively, she can opt for O levels track and open up herself for choice of JC after 4yrs based on merits.
i) However, the learning for O levels track might be constraint as they have to prepare for milestone exam.
ii) She will be subjected to risk of not performing in A levels and go into a JC with double-digit COP. Of course, the good thing is if she perform well, this will be another chance for her to steer back to first-tier JC.
2) I am not too familiar with the O levels COP to qualify to JCs.
i) If I calculate backwards, EJC COP is 9, means to qualify as an O levels candidate, she has to obtain 13 (worst-case) minus concession of 2HMT & 2leadership, to meet COP 9. Am I right with this?
ii) Then, the question is how to achieve 2 points concession for HMT? What grades for HMT will see her to that 2 points?
iii) Similarly, what is the criteria for 2 concession points for leadership? I’m just wondering as if needs to be key roles in CCA to achieve that, how many key roles does each CCA or does the school have?
3) Last but not least, I see that top tier JCs such as HCI & RI has COP of 5 points. Anyone knows this is like top how many % of the cohort can get 5 points? Or shld I say 9 points (worst-case scenario) if she can have 4 concession points to bring to 5 points.
As she’s my first child, I am quite inexperience but definitely trying hard to help her gather these facts, so that I can discuss with her the implication and help her make better decision for the 4-6yrs path. -
rawsalmon\" post_id=\"1948899\" time=\"1574643851\" user_id=\"31470:
You can't go wrong with either choice (between the top 2 schools for boys). Unless distance becomes a dealbreaker, i think letting the child follow his heart is the way to go.
Thank you for sharing ur story. Ours is very similar to your story, still finding consensus on RI and HCI. Boy wants his first and only choice, HCI. That is why we are still heafache over this and yet to submit online.O_O_Dad\" post_id=\"1948895\" time=\"1574642465\" user_id=\"61178:
Hi, I hope more parents can see the danger of having their decisions dictated by PSLE scores. Hopefully my personal stories can help you to find a decision-making process that suits your family.
I know this article that has a shelf life of no more than 3 days (before 27 November the deadline), but I certainly hope it can go a long way to help more families. Happy reading and have some laughs.
https://livetill100.blog/2019/11/24/078-how-to-choose-schools-wisely/ -
jakoh\" post_id=\"1948928\" time=\"1574648630\" user_id=\"151698:
A few things to consider:
Hope to get some help here...
My daughter got 252+2HMT. Base on past year COP, she can select SCGS IP. We went to the Open House on Sat and the school is not only nice (just upgraded, and I believe it's also well-rounded with the right level of academic rigor. In fact, my daughter loves the school.
However, the fact that SCGS IP will ultimately lead to EJC (no choice, die-die must go), which I don't quite like the idea.
1) Alternatively, she can opt for O levels track and open up herself for choice of JC after 4yrs based on merits.
i) However, the learning for O levels track might be constraint as they have to prepare for milestone exam.
ii) She will be subjected to risk of not performing in A levels and go into a JC with double-digit COP. Of course, the good thing is if she perform well, this will be another chance for her to steer back to first-tier JC.
2) I am not too familiar with the O levels COP to qualify to JCs.
i) If I calculate backwards, EJC COP is 9, means to qualify as an O levels candidate, she has to obtain 13 (worst-case) minus concession of 2HMT & 2leadership, to meet COP 9. Am I right with this?
ii) Then, the question is how to achieve 2 points concession for HMT? What grades for HMT will see her to that 2 points?
iii) Similarly, what is the criteria for 2 concession points for leadership? I'm just wondering as if needs to be key roles in CCA to achieve that, how many key roles does each CCA or does the school have?
3) Last but not least, I see that top tier JCs such as HCI & RI has COP of 5 points. Anyone knows this is like top how many % of the cohort can get 5 points? Or shld I say 9 points (worst-case scenario) if she can have 4 concession points to bring to 5 points.
As she's my first child, I am quite inexperience but definitely trying hard to help her gather these facts, so that I can discuss with her the implication and help her make better decision for the 4-6yrs path.
(1) You dun like EJC itself or the idea tat ur child is committed to going to EJC?
(2) I think u meant to say there's a risk of not performing well in O-levels (not A-levels) and going to a JC with double-digit COP, right? Think abt it, if ur child doesn't do well in O-levels in the way u described, won't she be worse off in a IP environment n also run the risk of doing poorly in A-levels?
(3) i get the feeling tat u r quite focused on pushing ur child into the top 2 JC (RI n HCI). Might or might not be best for ur child becos it's the big fish in small pond vs small fish in big pond analogy.
Nothing is guaranteed, n perhaps only diligence can help mitigate the risk of not doing well academically. -
manorway\" post_id=\"1948916\" time=\"1574647372\" user_id=\"9303:
It boils down to a difference in convictions about what really matters, I guess. I agree with you that facilities and \"look\" are not so important compared with longer travelling time. But for some people, comfort and look is important. Not a lot you can do to convert such beliefs in a few days.
Thank you Jedamum, you are right! They think going to a sleepy-looking school is demoralising when there are nicer looking environments to go to, and even if it means spending 3 hours a day on public transport, it is worth it.
Ironic as they said kid would be too tired if she must take bus for 30 min/one way to tuition in her p5/6 years.
They think nicer environment means happier kid so more mood to study. Even if the ALP is for all in the school, after going through the experience, if she fails her exams because too tired/no time to study/revise, is there any use? Still must sit for NA exams.
Frankly, I am not sure about how much good the ALP will do for her.
My own kids were in quite terrible schools if you judge by facilities and \"look\" (overseas) for many years, including a few years studying in our not-very-nice home. They have had very different academic outcomes, determined by their innate abilities and personalities, not at all by the schools! One scraped into a not-very-competitive course locally and is just getting by, and the other is doing well in a top overseas university. It's ability, attitude, teachers and friends that matter, not the school buildings. And how bad is the worst Singapore school anyway? But, as I said, you probably can't convert their thinking in a few days. -
Hi Jakoh,
If your child not keen in Eunoia JC, then she should not choose SCGS (IP), because once admitted in, MOE will Not allow her to change to another Junior College, in year (5 and 6).
Either your girl choose some other IP schools, or she can opt for SCGS (OP), and during these 2 years studying inside SCGS, she can find out from her fellow school mates how IP is like. Then if she perform well at Y2021 Sec 2, she can join SCGS (IP) later in Y2022 Sec 3. Sometimes, it is good to find out more first, before directly jumping into something immediately at once, in case regret later. Slowly, ease your way in gradually, find your footing firmly, from handling 4 subjects to double dosage 8 subjects
As for clearing Higher Mother tongue with 2 bonus points, as long as can get minimum C6 at HMT (O level), u will get your 2 bonus points
http://he.eduguide.sg/junior-college-jc-the-o-level-route/
Also, EJC is going to grow more popular, in the coming years ahead.
This year, for 2019 JC 1 admission, her COP is 9, on par with Dunman High (IP)
After the final last batch of EJC students leave the temporary Mount Sinai premises (occupancy) this Dec year-end, shift into the grand, new permanent Bishan-park location, COP for JAE students admission into EJC next year 2020 January, will improve. Going forward into future, EJC will grow to be a much highly sought-after JC. This is definite, when MOE planned for this several years ago
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