2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)
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peasants\" post_id=\"1951591\" time=\"1575521866\" user_id=\"75885:
That is so extreme. Guess this is the kind who wont lend people their notes. Lucky for my kid, she has always met classmates who are very willing to share — personal notes, teacher-given notes which the kid copied from the board (mine draws nice headings and then realised notes on the board gets erased), homework answers (like asking in WA who knows how to do this question and there would be a few who would take photos of their answers). Parents are also willing to share, like which tuition they go to, private tutors phone numbers, etc.
Talk about humanity. Once, we met one of the parent at popular book store, who is also active primary school volunteer. So we casually ask her what assessment books she buying, then she quickly cover the title of the books she is holding and change subject. Ok lor. -
Estéema\" post_id=\"1951607\" time=\"1575525331\" user_id=\"66413:
Whoever are ur classmates during ur school days long long ago are very lucky..... haha cos u share....... and now ur child will have ur good nature and habits too.......
I wld still help but able to protect my child’s own notes - just photocopy a set to help the frd our.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1951593\" time=\"1575523524\" user_id=\"145858:
Not to disagree with everyone here, ... There were cases where borrowed notes got lost and not returned.
I guess, we start fr ourvintent to help & find ways to do so. -
6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1951593\" time=\"1575523524\" user_id=\"145858:
Not to disagree with everyone here, agree that students shld help each other. But there can be cases where help can be taken for granted too. Competitive kids may wish to tidy up his or her notes at home and do revision straightaway. It could be their routine. There were cases where borrowed notes got lost and not returned.
To me, the system has failed terribly in educating this girl about how she should treat other fellow human beings.Timmy21\" post_id=\"1951557\" time=\"1575515805\" user_id=\"122721:
[quote=phtthp post_id=1951535 time=1575512536 user_id=35251]
If u seek help from classmates who do not know u well, treat almost like strangers, if they refuse to help, it is understandable, because after all, just mere acquaintance even though study inside the same class, like greeting \"Hi and bye\", that type of superficial fellow classmates.
Anyway, you won't be seeking help, nor approach those fellow classmates whom u are not even close to, or don't know them well, in the first case.
But if u seek help from your best friend studying inside the same class, everyday go recess together, do project together, and even your best friend refused to help, how would u feel ?
Eg.
Say, the child impacted, is someone close to u
It may not be because kids are not helpful but their need to take care of themselves first hold highest priority, something that may be instill in them naturally in a society which values progress, and most just do not wish to be left behind.[/quote]Yup, so normally they take pictures of their notes. Instead of letting people bring home. Also wont want to bring home people’s notes, what if the dog ate it together with the slippers? So take photo. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1951577:
I noticed that when come to fun, socialize, non academic stuff, parents inside the class chat group like to yak, shared a lot of info readily.
:slapshead:
Just now after I read your earlier post, I felt sad for that girl. Thought BFFs usually will be the first to lend a helping hand.
I recall my DD2 (back in P4 or P5 then) wanted to borrow some notes, when she requested in the WhatsApp group chat, the chat became silent. One of the girls even made snide remarks in the group chat. Very sad.
But, when come to exam (SA1 / SA2), everyone fall silent, inside the chat group.
This year, 2019 DSA, everyone (parents) kept as quiet as a mouse. No one shared anything, don't know who applied for which DSA schools, who got DSA offer / wait list / rejected. No one shared. Absolutely silence.
Tscore , No one in class discussed.
Is like taboo, to discuss such matter. -
Estéema\" post_id=\"1951607\" time=\"1575525331\" user_id=\"66413:
It's the spirit of trust that has been lost. The notes are not critical, many ways and other sources they can get hold of another copy. I will not insist how my kids should respond, i will explain and leave the decision to the child. They are free to use their own discretion
I wld still help but able to protect my child’s own notes - just photocopy a set to help the frd our.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1951593\" time=\"1575523524\" user_id=\"145858:
Not to disagree with everyone here, ... There were cases where borrowed notes got lost and not returned.
I guess, we start fr ourvintent to help & find ways to do so. -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1951610\" time=\"1575525637\" user_id=\"2964:
Yup, so normally they take pictures of their notes. Instead of letting people bring home. Also wont want to bring home people’s notes, what if the dog ate it together with the slippers? So take photo.[/quote]In my time, ppl still using pager, not to mention phone camera.
Not to disagree with everyone here, agree that students shld help each other. But there can be cases where help can be taken for granted too. Competitive kids may wish to tidy up his or her notes at home and do revision straightaway. It could be their routine. There were cases where borrowed notes got lost and not returned.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1951593\" time=\"1575523524\" user_id=\"145858:
[quote=Timmy21 post_id=1951557 time=1575515805 user_id=122721]
To me, the system has failed terribly in educating this girl about how she should treat other fellow human beings.
It may not be because kids are not helpful but their need to take care of themselves first hold highest priority, something that may be instill in them naturally in a society which values progress, and most just do not wish to be left behind.
As for mykids, too young, phones and camera are not allowed in school n at home -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"1951610\" time=\"1575525637\" user_id=\"2964:
Yup, so normally they take pictures of their notes. Instead of letting people bring home. Also wont want to bring home people’s notes, what if the dog ate it together with the slippers? So take photo.[/quote]In my time, ppl still using pager, not to mention phone camera.
Not to disagree with everyone here, agree that students shld help each other. But there can be cases where help can be taken for granted too. Competitive kids may wish to tidy up his or her notes at home and do revision straightaway. It could be their routine. There were cases where borrowed notes got lost and not returned.6thisnthat9\" post_id=\"1951593\" time=\"1575523524\" user_id=\"145858:
[quote=Timmy21 post_id=1951557 time=1575515805 user_id=122721]
To me, the system has failed terribly in educating this girl about how she should treat other fellow human beings.
It may not be because kids are not helpful but their need to take care of themselves first hold highest priority, something that may be instill in them naturally in a society which values progress, and most just do not wish to be left behind.
As for mykids, too young, phones and camera are not allowed in school n at home -
phtthp\" post_id=\"1951560\" time=\"1575516378\" user_id=\"35251:
i think Esteema has elaborated wat i want to say. A best fren really has no excuse not to help out, in my opinion. i guess it really depends on the individual personality. i willingly lent my jc lecture notes to anyone who asked n i was never disadvantaged becos of tat. To be able to help or share is by itself a great blessing.
can elaborate ?Timmy21\" post_id=\"1951557\" time=\"1575515805\" user_id=\"122721:
To me, the system has failed terribly in educating this girl about how she should treat other fellow human beings. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1951588\" time=\"1575519892\" user_id=\"28674:
I remember there was a girl in my daughter's class who was absent from school for a period of time. The girls took it upon themselves to make sure that girl got all the notes she missed out on. Someone was responsible for Math notes, another for Chem notes, another for Geog notes, etc The girl didn't even have to ask. Everyone just rallied together.
She obviously needs to ditch this friend and find better ones! My daughter was a late entrant to the school, and received a lot of help from various classmates in her catching-up phase. They also had sportsgirls in her class who missed lots of classes, and also classmates who had accidents and missed school, at various times. Classmates would always collect notes, give help etc to those who missed classes. I'm sure there are the selfish ones in any class, but not all the girls are selfish. In JC, one of the classmates was running late for his PW (can't remember why, probably because of competitions), and some classmates who weren't in the same group helped out a bit to make sure he could make the deadlines.phtthp\" post_id=\"1951524\" time=\"1575504987\" user_id=\"35251:
One of my friend's daughters, joined your daughter's IP JC, at A level.
She came in as a JAE student, after O-level, not those who joined IP programme, since day 1, Sec 1.
What happened was
She was hospitalized from dengue fever, for more than a week.
So, she asked to borrow lecture notes from her so called \"best\" friend to zap, and assured her friend that she will immediately return her the zapped notes, after zapping, because she had missed several lectures for several subjects, during those days hospitalized.
Guess how her \"best\" friend reply her ? \"Sorry, Not convenient to lend u my notes to zap. \" Friend said her girl was very lonely, inside these 2 years in the JC. -
Not only academic stuff, cca stuff or sports competitions, parents or kids equally ultra competitive and hush hush about where they train, how many times they train, which competitions they went to, which star coach they consulted …isn’t it true human by nature is selfish lol…
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