Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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Estéema\" post_id=\"1964536\" time=\"1582450436\" user_id=\"66413:

Oh, ngl2010 Realised u meant asymptomatic. No idea how to capture this that might give us the slip. Guess that’s why contact tracing is impt.

That's why social responsibility is important. Avoid crowds as far as possible.

[MyPillow]

Cloud Cloud\" post_id=\"1964574\" time=\"1582500452\" user_id=\"160688:[quote=\"Cloud Cloud\" post_id=1964574 time=1582500452 user_id=160688]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"1964573\" time=\"1582500018\" user_id=\"17023:

We were too slow to react to the Wuhan cases, resulting in Singapore being the highest (beside China) at one time. Let us not repeat the mistake.

agree, this time hope our authority can act fast ... very scared to repeat history since now we are slightly \"controlled\"
I think MOH n police also v v tired on all such tracings!

[Sun_2010]

phtthp\" post_id=\"1964312\" time=\"1582256389\" user_id=\"35251:

Sun_2010\" post_id=\"1964311\" time=\"1582256101\" user_id=\"18393:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1964310 time=1582254897 user_id=35251].zeit,

you mentioned in above, \"So deal with his beng-ness and code-switched English and move on\" ?

Read below

because

this is how fellow Singaporeans feel about him


https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2020/02/20/singlish-is-not-the-damning-thing-about-minister-chans-leaked-dialogue-but-him-looking-down-on-people-whom-he-is-supposed-to-serve/

Using the toc as a barometer! Really??? :roll:

Atleast amend that to
this is how some fellow Singaporeans feel about him

Sun_2010 ,

you can say, whatever u like[/quote]Wow really ?
No phtthp , I would think there should be some accountability before we spout whatever bs we want to, after all we are adults.
But if you want to spread misinformation, sweeping generalizations , and/or quote \"fake\" news as your source , well that's up to you

btw, that should be toc's tag line- I can say whatever I like

[chenlaoshi]

If you're looking for sanitizer:

https://i.imgur.com/3vd3RbU.jpg\">

[solareclipse]

Unfortunately behind the keyboard, when there's anonymity, accountability & responsibility for \"free speech\" oft do not go hand in hand, regardless whether one's an adult or not


The furore over CCS's closed-door comments are mainly raised, picked on & criticized by those who would do so regardless (of what he said) - for want of something to criticize about (of what the govt is doing / not doing etc). When can't be constructive (which often takes maturity & forethought), just go into auto easy mode of criticizing - an easy-peasy way of \"spouting\" - just for the sake of having voice heard & (trying hard) to be relevant?

How many out there, can hand on heart, not say that when we heard & saw the extent of the rush on the supermarkets for rice, noodles, toilet paper etc did not :shock: :yikes: :scratchhead: and perhaps even use equivalent if not, worse terminology to comment, behind closed doors, or even in public places!? If some of such private closed door / public comments were secretly recorded & circulated too? Any less :censored: ?

Relating to third parties, require one to speak same lingo to be on same page - how often have we amongst friends & even colleagues to get something across clearly / aptly oft paraphrase it colloquially or even use Mandarin phrases or terms to better put it across? Most Singaporeans are able to code-switch effortlessly, and that's why Singlish is uniquely Singaporean :imcool:

Reference to other countries came across to some as arrogance etc. Unfortunately to learn & improve ourselves we all know that we have to learn, adapt from others' - be it their missteps or good steps etc. How else then can one have a point of reference that \"we are not doing this, cos it didn't work in xxx's case, or we are doing / adapting it like this, cos it was effective in xxx's case\"? Especially when communicating or updating a group, in that closed door incident?

When Singapore reported high number of cases initially, criticism of all sorts were levied, that borders etc should be closed earlier, but of course such armchair critics forget (kind terminology used here) that WHO guidelines & \"bigger picture\" considerations did not warrant such closure then either. But who cares right? \"I (don't know much but) just want to criticize & have my say!\"

When Singapore promptly rolls out detect, trace & quarantine measures, and manages to \"contain\" the initial infected patients - numbers are significantly high(er) than others, who have different measures in place - but to armchair critics, again that's something to pick on!

I rather that we have stringent detect, trace & quarantine regulations etc in place, and higher detected numbers, rather than have self-regulation by individuals. Then there's no need to second guess & hope that everyone will be responsible & seek testing when they feel the need to!!?

I dare say the majority of us are appreciative and thankful that we have learnt and improved from the SARS period, and of course there's always more to learn & improve from this Covid-19 situation.

Feedback & even criticism is always essential for all to continuously learn & improve, but as it has been said - \"Criticism without a solution, is merely an inflation of the critic's ego\".

[Estéema]

solareclipse\" post_id=\"1964617\" time=\"1582520948\" user_id=\"162983:

Unfortunately behind the keyboard, when there's anonymity, accountability & responsibility for \"free speech\" oft do not go hand in hand, regardless whether one's an adult or not

The furore over CCS's closed-door comments are mainly raised, picked on & criticized by those who would do so regardless (of what he said) - for want of something to criticize about (of what the govt is doing / not doing etc). When can't be constructive (which often takes maturity & forethought), just go into auto easy mode of criticizing - an easy-peasy way of \"spouting\" - just for the sake of having voice heard & (trying hard) to be relevant?

How many out there, can hand on heart, not say that when we heard & saw the extent of the rush on the supermarkets for rice, noodles, toilet paper etc did not :shock: :yikes: :scratchhead: and perhaps even use equivalent if not, worse terminology to comment, behind closed doors, or even in public places!? If some of such private closed door / public comments were secretly recorded & circulated too? Any less :censored: ?

Relating to third parties, require one to speak same lingo to be on same page - how often have we amongst friends & even colleagues to get something across clearly / aptly oft paraphrase it colloquially or even use Mandarin phrases or terms to better put it across? Most Singaporeans are able to code-switch effortlessly, and that's why Singlish is uniquely Singaporean :imcool:

Reference to other countries came across to some as arrogance etc. Unfortunately to learn & improve ourselves we all know that we have to learn, adapt from others' - be it their missteps or good steps etc. How else then can one have a point of reference that \"we are not doing this, cos it didn't work in xxx's case, or we are doing / adapting it like this, cos it was effective in xxx's case\"? Especially when communicating or updating a group, in that closed door incident?

When Singapore reported high number of cases initially, criticism of all sorts were levied, that borders etc should be closed earlier, but of course such armchair critics forget (kind terminology used here) that WHO guidelines & \"bigger picture\" considerations did not warrant such closure then either. But who cares right? \"I (don't know much but) just want to criticize & have my say!\"

When Singapore promptly rolls out detect, trace & quarantine measures, and manages to \"contain\" the initial infected patients - numbers are significantly high(er) than others, who have different measures in place - but to armchair critics, again that's something to pick on!

I rather that we have stringent detect, trace & quarantine regulations etc in place, and higher detected numbers, rather than have self-regulation by individuals. Then there's no need to second guess & hope that everyone will be responsible & seek testing when they feel the need to!!?

I dare say the majority of us are appreciative and thankful that we have learnt and improved from the SARS period, and of course there's always more to learn & improve from this Covid-19 situation.

Feedback & even criticism is always essential for all to continuously learn & improve, but as it has been said - \"Criticism without a solution, is merely an inflation of the critic's ego\".

A very well thot discussion piece with great insight of human behavior! Thank you. :thankyou:

I hope we progress as a society in readiness for anything crisis unexpected with calmness, maturity and cooperation to care for each other. Let’s encourage each other to be constructive & helpful. Steer clear fr conjectures, passing fake or sensational news. Impt not to generalize what others feel or think. Just hope for calmness.

chenlaoshi,
Thank you for yr constructive sharing for our community to find resources some families might need, esp those whose regular supplies hv been disrupted fr panic clearance of stock. :thankyou:

[SeongheeKim]

Create Your Own Hand Sanitiser Workshop

https://www.eventbrite.sg/e/create-your-own-hand-sanitiser-workshop-tickets-96043455561

[lee_yl]

solareclipse\" post_id=\"1964617\" time=\"1582520948\" user_id=\"162983:

Unfortunately behind the keyboard, when there's anonymity, accountability & responsibility for \"free speech\" oft do not go hand in hand, regardless whether one's an adult or not

The furore over CCS's closed-door comments are mainly raised, picked on & criticized by those who would do so regardless (of what he said) - for want of something to criticize about (of what the govt is doing / not doing etc). When can't be constructive (which often takes maturity & forethought), just go into auto easy mode of criticizing - an easy-peasy way of \"spouting\" - just for the sake of having voice heard & (trying hard) to be relevant?

How many out there, can hand on heart, not say that when we heard & saw the extent of the rush on the supermarkets for rice, noodles, toilet paper etc did not :shock: :yikes: :scratchhead: and perhaps even use equivalent if not, worse terminology to comment, behind closed doors, or even in public places!? If some of such private closed door / public comments were secretly recorded & circulated too? Any less :censored: ?

Relating to third parties, require one to speak same lingo to be on same page - how often have we amongst friends & even colleagues to get something across clearly / aptly oft paraphrase it colloquially or even use Mandarin phrases or terms to better put it across? Most Singaporeans are able to code-switch effortlessly, and that's why Singlish is uniquely Singaporean :imcool:

Reference to other countries came across to some as arrogance etc. Unfortunately to learn & improve ourselves we all know that we have to learn, adapt from others' - be it their missteps or good steps etc. How else then can one have a point of reference that \"we are not doing this, cos it didn't work in xxx's case, or we are doing / adapting it like this, cos it was effective in xxx's case\"? Especially when communicating or updating a group, in that closed door incident?

When Singapore reported high number of cases initially, criticism of all sorts were levied, that borders etc should be closed earlier, but of course such armchair critics forget (kind terminology used here) that WHO guidelines & \"bigger picture\" considerations did not warrant such closure then either. But who cares right? \"I (don't know much but) just want to criticize & have my say!\"

When Singapore promptly rolls out detect, trace & quarantine measures, and manages to \"contain\" the initial infected patients - numbers are significantly high(er) than others, who have different measures in place - but to armchair critics, again that's something to pick on!

I rather that we have stringent detect, trace & quarantine regulations etc in place, and higher detected numbers, rather than have self-regulation by individuals. Then there's no need to second guess & hope that everyone will be responsible & seek testing when they feel the need to!!?

I dare say the majority of us are appreciative and thankful that we have learnt and improved from the SARS period, and of course there's always more to learn & improve from this Covid-19 situation.

Feedback & even criticism is always essential for all to continuously learn & improve, but as it has been said - \"Criticism without a solution, is merely an inflation of the critic's ego\".

The CCS saga still not over yet?
Thanks for resurfacing it after attention had already moved away from the matter.

We did not start a thread to criticize our minister for the sake of criticizing. Nobody forced him speak using derogatory and demeaning terms, albeit behind closed doors.

If those who voiced their unhappiness are called “armchair critics”, then may I ask should a white belt like you who out of the blue wrote such an eloquent first post be called IB?

[KaylaOwen]

WHO is working closely with global experts, governments and partners to rapidly expand scientific knowledge on this new virus, to track the spread and virulence of the virus, and to provide advice to countries and individuals on measures to protect health and prevent the spread of this outbreak.

[coast]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-looking-for-new-sources-for-masks


Mr Gan Thiam Poh (Ang Mo Kio GRC), who had asked Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong what lessons can be learnt from the coronavirus situation and what can be improved upon to better prepare Singaporeans for a pandemic outbreak.

Mr Gan had also asked if the Government will include the production of masks and other medical protective gear as a strategic facility, and support investment in such a facility here.

Singapore is looking for new sources of supply for masks and developing capabilities to manufacture them locally as other Asian countries clamp down on mask exports, Minister for National Development Lawrence Wong has said.