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    Tuition centers should not force parents to accept digital learning at full fees.

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    • chenlaoshiC Offline
      chenlaoshi
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      zac's mum\" post_id=\"1968972\" time=\"1585395433\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1968972 time=1585395433 user_id=53606]
      I would like to share my experience with chenlaoshi’s response to the sudden shock ruling in this past week (in fact less than a week). Although he is not a big tuition centre but he runs group classes.

      Like everyone, I’m sure he was taken by surprise at the sudden forced closure. Yet he took the time to pause, think very carefully how to solve this problem. He spent the time to explore all various types of platforms before he decided on which one would be the most effective. He kept us parents updated via WhatsApp each step of the way.

      He did not rush in to implement any changes. First he assured us that any e-lessons would be free of charge for these 5 weeks shutdown, which is nobody’s fault. For us to trial out and get used to the system first.

      Next, he decided to start off with a Pre-recorded video for the missed lesson, log in at own time own target. He even did a how-to video guide in English for us parents to understand how to join the Google Classroom, how to submit homework etc. Then in the lesson video he assured the kids themselves that they could pause at any time if they need to review or finish copying down notes.

      Next week will be the first “live” session via Zoom. Again he sends us detailed instructions on how to set it up. With the option to WhatsApp him for any queries.

      To me, that should be the gold standard for how to transit to new technology platform. Parents definitely have to assist the kids with setting all this up, including sitting beside them to remind them pay attention etc. How can those tuition centers expect buy-in from parents when they can’t provide proper how-to guide or support?? Add the stress of joining a “live” PAID lesson (no option to refund/defer) at the non-regular timing (no option to select another timing)...makes the parents go nuts with anger and don’t need to wonder why.[/quote]
      FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1969004\" time=\"1585405069\" user_id=\"105816:
      sky minecrafter\" post_id=\"1969019\" time=\"1585413682\" user_id=\"130531:[quote=\"sky minecrafter\" post_id=1969019 time=1585413682 user_id=130531]This is chenlaoshi:

      https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=95548&start=10
      :thankyou: for the kind words and encouragement. Don't mean to 'spoil market' or 'play hero', just followed my heart and did what I thought was right.

      This week brings back memories of my previous experience being involved in smart classroom pilot program at one of my previous schools (for Pri 4 level). 😂 This is a good opportunity for educators to look deeper into how to tap on ICT to enhance learning process as well as facilitate communication. That said, the amount of back end job can often be overlooked/underestimated. I'm sure processes will be fine tuned and improved upon along the way. 😉

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      • N Offline
        newbieks
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        Anyone thinks that even private tutors may pass a risk to our kids? As in they house hop a lot to teach many kids. Was planning to consider switch to private, but hubby raise his objections.:(

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        • phtthpP Offline
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          newbieks\" post_id=\"1969152\" time=\"1585497736\" user_id=\"178749:

          Anyone thinks that even private tutors may pass a risk to our kids? As in they house hop a lot to teach many kids. Was planning to consider switch to private, but hubby raise his objections.:(
          When go private tuition,

          - tutor can spread virus, because tutor hop from one student's' house to another student's house, teaching.
          tutor himself can be the connection point, for virus carrier

          - various students going to the same tutor's house, can also spread virus at tutor's house during lesson itself.
          After the lesson over, virus-carrier student left tutor's house. But, the next innocent student entering tutor's house can become victim

          make all the students going to private tutor's house, wear N-ninety-five mask.
          Tutor herself, must also wear mask

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            Actually online tutoring is the safer option… via zoom it’s interactive and almost like f2f. However Its very disappointing when a 3 hour regular class becomes only an hour long via zoom.

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
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              Schootopia\" post_id=\"1969151\" time=\"1585497437\" user_id=\"143961:

              Many parents go to certain enrichment centers because of the branding (a.k.a marketing and advertising), the hear-says from office colleagues and for the bragging rights in the office pantry. They are probably too busy to really discern quality. For most of them, sub-standard \"digital\" learning is most likely \"ok\". They will just cpcb a bit and then accept it all.
              Well, if the parents cpcb and then accept it all, and
              if the \"digital\" learning material content is really sub-standard in the Tuition centre, in the end who pay the price, when come to actual mid-year exam SA1 or year-end exam SA2 ?
              Answer : will be their own kids.

              By then, these parents will panic, wondering why they had paid so much tuition fees, expecting quality delivery, yet in the end, their child still do poorly, in SA1 or SA2.

              whose fault ?
              parents fault, because in the first case, they did not even bother to do any homework background check, check whether the quality of the content delivered online, will benefit or help their child, if they just simply assume, brush it off that everything is going to be ok

              In fact, why Tuition centre prefer online teaching ?

              because

              can take in more students now, as the lessons are conducted online, inside student's own home, no need to go tuition centre premises anymore, off-load the burden of the centre having the need to find student, a table and chair to sit down. At physical premises, due to classroom constraint, centre maybe can take in maximum 10 kids per class Now, go online ? No more physical constraint encountered, can take in more than 10 kids concurrently online, earn more $, have more business

              online learning -
              child must be independent and have the desire to want to learn.

              Imagine parents paid so much for online lesson fees, but his own child not interested to study online.
              Even when Tr pose questions online, student \"bo chap\" attitude, not interested to learn, can't be bothered to answer Tr questions, dozed off in the comfort of his arm-chair at home in front of the pc, parents also don't know that kid not keen, while in contrast those other students who are very keen in learning, will bother to quickly type into the key-board, reply back Tr questions instantly on the spot

              example

              say, Tr posed questions online.
              End up, is always those few hardworking students, answering Teacher's queries.
              The rest, what happen ?
              no action from them on keyboard, to answer Teacher's questions posed online
              don't know whether they are still sitting in front of the pc listening to Teacher's lesson, or their mind already drifted off somewhere else far away, or they doing something else at home instead, especially. when parents are not around at home or not at the student care centre

              for online learning -
              a) good delivery content, must be there

              b) check your own child's learning attitude.

              If kid \"bo chap\", sign up online lessons, also useless

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              • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                Zeal mummy
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                Don’t think tuition centers prefer online platform… it’s the mandatory closure notice that’s forcing everyone to go online. Some of them… have double the work to do… both online now and later on replacing the physical class.

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
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                  Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"1969154\" time=\"1585499504\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=1969154 time=1585499504 user_id=58173]
                  Actually online tutoring is the safer option.. via zoom it’s interactive and almost like f2f. However Its very disappointing when a 3 hour regular class becomes only an hour long via zoom.[/quote]
                  when go online, cannot be 3 hours too long,

                  because

                  sit in front of a computer for 3 hours, is too taxing, tiring, sometimes eye strain

                  after one hour, your concentration power begin to drift off

                  ask yourself
                  If we as adults, if we were to sit right in front of a computer for 3 hours long, how u feel ?
                  can take it, or struggling ?

                  If we as adults cannot take it, how to expect young children to take it ?

                  Furthermore, ask yourself, in Total, how many subjects are your kid going to take tuition, online, for 3 hour duration ?
                  imagine

                  suppose parents \"forced\" their kid to take online tuition for all 4 PSLE subjects [English, Mother tongue, Maths, Science]
                  every week : say, each subject is of 3 hours online tuition
                  Total : 4 subjects x 3 hours, equal 12 hours

                  u know what's going to happen ?
                  soon, u will find your own child wearing glasses, due to eye strain and in one week, spent too many hours in front of a computer

                  Or

                  if your child already wearing glasses, soon his or her glasses degree will deepen fast, and you need to bring child to spectacle shop, increase the degree. Bad !

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                  • sky minecrafterS Offline
                    sky minecrafter
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                    I'm with zeal'mummy on this - it could be Less beneficial to conduct online tutoring, from a classroom-setting centre's perspective:


                    (1) Prying eyes of parents (Jec used to shoo me away from their classroom door/ common corridor - haha)
                    (2) Easier duplication of copyright materials
                    (3) Closer scrutiny of materials & teaching methodologies (instead of broadcasting a thematic video, the tutor may now need to make it available longer for the student's use)
                    (4) Like our forummers have also posted, there's a lot more hard work behind the scenes/ webcam...

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                    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                      Zeal mummy
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                      phtthp\" post_id=\"1969158\" time=\"1585500873\" user_id=\"35251:

                      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"1969154\" time=\"1585499504\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=1969154 time=1585499504 user_id=58173]Actually online tutoring is the safer option.. via zoom it’s interactive and almost like f2f. However Its very disappointing when a 3 hour regular class becomes only an hour long via zoom.
                      when go online, cannot be 3 hours too long,

                      because

                      sit in front of a computer for 3 hours, is too taxing, tiring

                      after one hour, your concentration power begin to drift off[/quote]
                      The other centers stick to their stipulated class hours and provided 10 mins break for every hour of class. I think they shouldn’t short change people ya..

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                      • 6 Offline
                        6thisnthat9
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                        So those w private tutors shld stop lessons too?

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