All About Primary Schools' Balloting History
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monajoba\" post_id=\"1967714\" time=\"1584598738\" user_id=\"17789:
Last year for TKPS:
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Tanjong Katong Primary - Balloting occured for Phase 2C <2km last year, likely no chance for SPR. Many indians and Koreans from previous cohort in the school population, which means great peer pressure for local kids to spear harder.
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PR within 1km all admitted, no leftover for further ballot.
Therefore, still got good chance for PR. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1967719\" time=\"1584600420\" user_id=\"97579:
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.
Last year for TKPS:monajoba\" post_id=\"1967714\" time=\"1584598738\" user_id=\"17789:
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Tanjong Katong Primary - Balloting occured for Phase 2C <2km last year, likely no chance for SPR. Many indians and Koreans from previous cohort in the school population, which means great peer pressure for local kids to spear harder.
...
PR within 1km all admitted, no leftover for further ballot.
Therefore, still got good chance for PR.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368 -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1977994\" time=\"1590570298\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1977994 time=1590570298 user_id=53606]
floppy\" post_id=\"1967719\" time=\"1584600420\" user_id=\"97579:
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368Yup. PR has sussed out all the best schools overlooked by SC but govt has now closed the gap. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1967719\" time=\"1584600420\" user_id=\"97579:
Originally, was looking at Canossa for phase 2cs. Looks like might have chance at TKPS which is nearer.
Last year for TKPS:monajoba\" post_id=\"1967714\" time=\"1584598738\" user_id=\"17789:
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Tanjong Katong Primary - Balloting occured for Phase 2C <2km last year, likely no chance for SPR. Many indians and Koreans from previous cohort in the school population, which means great peer pressure for local kids to spear harder.
...
PR within 1km all admitted, no leftover for further ballot.
Therefore, still got good chance for PR. -
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/p1-admission-priority-given-for-proximity-but-balance-needed-9274574?cid=h3_referral_inarticlelinks_24082018_cna
3 years on, still no update on this issue raised in parliament.
\"Mr Gan asked what percentage of Primary 1 school children had successfully enrolled in their parents’ alma mater, and of these, how many stayed more than 8km from the school.
Dr Janil said the number of applicants at Phase 2A(1) and Phase 2A(2) has remained “fairly stable” over the past three years. It stands at about 12 per cent of the Primary 1 cohort.\"
Are you sure? Schools like NYPS, Pei Hwa, Roysth how much % taken up by alumni? And how many staying >8km?
With P1 registration coming up, this issue should be looked into again. Maybe cap the distance of alumni applying and then divide the rest between 2B and 2C equally. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1978000\" time=\"1590570915\" user_id=\"97579:
Yup. PR has sussed out all the best schools overlooked by SC but govt has now closed the gap.[/quote]Can someone enlighten me, how is the proposed cap on number of PR children in certain schools (where there are currently a lot of PRs) will help Singaporeans?
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.zac's mum\" post_id=\"1977994\" time=\"1590570298\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1977994 time=1590570298 user_id=53606]
Last year for TKPS:
PR within 1km all admitted, no leftover for further ballot.
Therefore, still got good chance for PR.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368
PRs end up in the 10 schools listed likely because they can’t get into the better schools around that neighborhood. For example, Singaporeans flock to NYPS, MGS, RGPS, Pei Hwa, then PRs have no choice but to go Bukit Timah Pri where there are more vacancies left at 2C. I don’t think with a capped PR quota, the residents nearby will flock to Bukit Timah Pri.
Moreover, at phase 2C, Singaporeans within 1km/1-2km/outside 2km to ballot first. Any left over, if any, then pass on to PRs to ballot -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1978114\" time=\"1590631753\" user_id=\"17023:
dont forget
Can someone enlighten me, how is the proposed cap on number of PR children in certain schools (where there are currently a lot of PRs) will help Singaporeans?zac's mum\" post_id=\"1977994\" time=\"1590570298\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1977994 time=1590570298 user_id=53606]
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368
PRs end up in the 10 schools listed likely because they can’t get into the better schools around that neighborhood. For example, Singaporeans flock to NYPS, MGS, RGPS, Pei Hwa, then PRs have no choice but to go Bukit Timah Pri where there are more vacancies left at 2C. I don’t think with a capped PR quota, the residents nearby will flock to Bukit Timah Pri.
Moreover, at phase 2C, Singaporeans within 1km/1-2km/outside 2km to ballot first. Any left over, if any, then pass on to PRs to ballot[/quote]
PRs still can be PV (Parent volunteer) or do grassroot join RC etc, entered by Phase 2B
knowing that they stand zero chance at Phase 2C,
because
popular primary schools are taken up, \"snapped up\" quickly by SC children, PRs will \"chiong\" for good schools, in Phase 2B, by applying to be PVs.
Why ?
so that they get in one phase earlier, ahead of SC children, by entering at 2B, instead of wait for nothing, no chance at 2C
unless now, with the new rule that restrict (curb) enrolment of PRs,
schools also start (begin) to restrict the number of PRs, when they apply to be PVs
currently, if enter by Grassroot RC Phase 2B route,
RC do not restrict PRs, who choose this route.
PV (parent volunteers) in primary schools, also do not restrict PRs application to be PV, in Phase 2B -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1978114\" time=\"1590631753\" user_id=\"17023:
Can someone enlighten me, how is the proposed cap on number of PR children in certain schools (where there are currently a lot of PRs) will help Singaporeans?
Yup. PR has sussed out all the best schools overlooked by SC but govt has now closed the gap.floppy\" post_id=\"1978000\" time=\"1590570915\" user_id=\"97579:
[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1977994 time=1590570298 user_id=53606]
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368
PRs end up in the 10 schools listed likely because they can’t get into the better schools around that neighborhood. For example, Singaporeans flock to NYPS, MGS, RGPS, Pei Hwa, then PRs have no choice but to go Bukit Timah Pri where there are more vacancies left at 2C. I don’t think with a capped PR quota, the residents nearby will flock to Bukit Timah Pri.
Moreover, at phase 2C, Singaporeans within 1km/1-2km/outside 2km to ballot first. Any left over, if any, then pass on to PRs to ballot[/quote]lee_yl,
answer lies in the fact that, PRs can still enrol their children
1) under Phase 1 (sibling), and
2) under Phase 2A1 (alumni) and Phase 2A(ex-student) and
3) under Phase 2B (under GRC and under Parent Volunteers)
under above named phases, PR children are occupying seats, that could have gone back to SC children instead
perhaps for a start,
analyze how many PR children,
have been enrolled under highly popular (Nanyang, Nan hua, ACS Barker, ACS Junior, Catholic High, Maris Stella, Ai Tong, Henry Park, Taonan, St Hilda, SCGS, St Nick, MGS, Rgps) primary schools, under above 3 named phases?
by right,
if based on \"Citizenship\" comes first,
all these seats currently occupied by PR children, should rightfully go back to All SC children, first ! -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1978114\" time=\"1590631753\" user_id=\"17023:
Can someone enlighten me, how is the proposed cap on number of PR children in certain schools (where there are currently a lot of PRs) will help Singaporeans?
Yup. PR has sussed out all the best schools overlooked by SC but govt has now closed the gap.floppy\" post_id=\"1978000\" time=\"1590570915\" user_id=\"97579:
[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1977994 time=1590570298 user_id=53606]
This year whole new ball game. With the cap on PRs, maybe PR <1km need to ballot. Not due to lack of places, but due to the cap.
“Primary 1 registration for 2021 moves online, introduces cap on intake of PR children”
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/primary-1-registration-online-2021-cap-pr-children-12773368
PRs end up in the 10 schools listed likely because they can’t get into the better schools around that neighborhood. For example, Singaporeans flock to NYPS, MGS, RGPS, Pei Hwa, then PRs have no choice but to go Bukit Timah Pri where there are more vacancies left at 2C. I don’t think with a capped PR quota, the residents nearby will flock to Bukit Timah Pri.
Moreover, at phase 2C, Singaporeans within 1km/1-2km/outside 2km to ballot first. Any left over, if any, then pass on to PRs to ballot[/quote]With the new cap, the PRs have to go elsewhere in phase 2C, thus freeing up more leftover seats for phase 2CS.
So those SCs who choose balloting at some popular school during 2C, will have a wider range of 2CS fallback options. Previously if they’d taken the risk of balloting during 2C, those places would have been snapped up by the PRs already, leaving none at all for anyone at phase 2CS. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1978124\" time=\"1590633260\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1978124 time=1590633260 user_id=53606]
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1978114\" time=\"1590631753\" user_id=\"17023:
With the new cap, the PRs have to go elsewhere in phase 2C, thus freeing up more leftover seats for phase 2CS.
So those SCs who choose balloting at some popular school during 2C, will have a wider range of 2CS fallback options. Previously if they’d taken the risk of balloting during 2C, those places would have been snapped up by the PRs already, leaving none at all for anyone at phase 2CS.Yah. I think the new regulation is to ward off “possible” and “future” complains that XYZ school is overrun by PR, thus leaving no place for SC (never mind that SC are the ones who didn’t choose them in the first place).
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