2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
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Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
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PlayfulFairy\" post_id=\"1999172\" time=\"1602924313\" user_id=\"2120:
Best to clarify with MOE or school on this.
Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
That said, it's better to perhaps cast a longer view, that the child can continue with HCL in secondary school and beyond, alleviating the need to take 'AO' chinese in 'A' Levels? -
PlayfulFairy\" post_id=\"1999172\" time=\"1602924313\" user_id=\"2120:
As far as I am aware, the +3, +2, +1 only applies for SAP schools now as well. I.e. 2019 PSLE scored 258 + 3 means can go NYGH, cannot go RGS.
Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
So I believe it is similar under the new system. Distinction, Merit, Pass is first tiebreaker within an AL level for SAP schools. For other schools, it has no direct impact.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/special-cases.html -
PlayfulFairy\" post_id=\"1999172\" time=\"1602924313\" user_id=\"2120:
Of course when you learn something, there is going to be advantages and benefit yourself eventually !
Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
benefit in what way ?
When you learn HCL,
it helps to strengthen your Psle bu-hua (Standard Chinese), because
1) you are exposed to more Chinese vocabulary, even though Psle HCL vocab is a mere extension of Psle bu-hua vocab
2) the training of HCL zuowen exposure helps a pupil to strengthen in writing their basic bu-hua zuowen, thereby chances of pupil end up doing well in bu-hua, is there.
3) if done HCL before,
the jump or learning curve into IP Secondary schools where majority of students do HCL in Sec 1 (IP), only minority students don't do HCL in IP schools, is not so steep as compared to another pupil who totally never taken PSLE HCL at all.
HCL (in Secondary schools) is a different ball game altogether, challenging indeed, especially at Upper Sec (3 and 4), because if you dont develop this habit of reading widely, got problem in your zuowen.
Lower Sec HCL up to Sec 2 mid-year (SA1) is not an issue, because ask you to write essays is like an extension of asking you to write your past P6 PSLE HCL, \"qin jing\" zuowen, where majority HCL students still can cope. So, this one, not so much an issue.
After Sec 2 Mid-year exam over, come Semester 2 onwards, schools will start to introduce \"yi lun wen\" essay gradually, bit by bit, so that students get used to it slowly. Once come Upper Sec, where all the \" argumentative \" essays step in, need to present your views, have maturity of thoughts, expectations begin to differ ... can be challenging.
4) under admission into SAP Secondary schools, Yes, your HCL score is taken into account, considered.
However, one also must be realistic too !
- If a pupil is barely coping or surviving with EMS these 3 fundamental core subjects, then can forget about HCL, or
- targeting purely Non-SAP schools because student strongly disliked Chinese a lot, no interests in Chinese, already struggling with basic bu-hua, and some students hate Chinese so much to the extent that they wriggle their way around, try ways and means to appeal to MOE to \"siam\" Chinese by asking MOE for an exemption, these students can also forget about HCL.
You ought to know yourself well where you stand, \"zhi ji zhi bi\" -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"1999253\" time=\"1602990267\" user_id=\"188234:
No it is not similar under the new system.
As far as I am aware, the +3, +2, +1 only applies for SAP schools now as well. I.e. 2019 PSLE scored 258 + 3 means can go NYGH, cannot go RGS.PlayfulFairy\" post_id=\"1999172\" time=\"1602924313\" user_id=\"2120:
Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
So I believe it is similar under the new system. Distinction, Merit, Pass is first tiebreaker within an AL level for SAP schools. For other schools, it has no direct impact.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/special-cases.html
The only similarity is the advantage (old and new) applies for SAP secondary schools only.
The big difference is, under the new system, scoring well for HCL does not add points to “leapfrog“ over someone without HCL. Example, a raw 7 pointer without HCL will still get into the SAP school before any 8 pointers (pass/merit/distinction) can get in.
Note that even if never take HCL at P6, still can enter SAP schools and take HCL in Sec 1 if meet MOE’s overall criteria (which has been relaxed slightly).
Whereas under old system, a raw 258+3 is counted as 261, will get to leapfrog over a raw 260 who did not take HCL. -
PlayfulFairy\" post_id=\"1999172\" time=\"1602924313\" user_id=\"2120:
If my child is not scoring well in his 4 core subjects, I would drop HCL to focus on the 4 core subjects under AL system.
Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
Particularly, work on pulling up the weakest subjects first. HCL is only worth doing if he’s already scoring AL1 in all 4 core subjects. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1999261\" time=\"1602993590\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1999261 time=1602993590 user_id=53606]
No it is not similar under the new system.SG_KP1\" post_id=\"1999253\" time=\"1602990267\" user_id=\"188234:
As far as I am aware, the +3, +2, +1 only applies for SAP schools now as well. I.e. 2019 PSLE scored 258 + 3 means can go NYGH, cannot go RGS.Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!
So I believe it is similar under the new system. Distinction, Merit, Pass is first tiebreaker within an AL level for SAP schools. For other schools, it has no direct impact.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/special-cases.html
The only similarity is the advantage (old and new) applies for SAP secondary schools only.
The big difference is, under the new system, scoring well for HCL does not add points to “leapfrog“ over someone without HCL. Example, a raw 7 pointer without HCL will still get into the SAP school before any 8 pointers (pass/merit/distinction) can get in.
Note that even if never take HCL at P6, still can enter SAP schools and take HCL in Sec 1 if meet MOE’s overall criteria (which has been relaxed slightly).
Whereas under old system, a raw 258+3 is counted as 261, will get to leapfrog over a raw 260 who did not take HCL.[/quote]Sorry, I understand all of the differences you are describing. I may have misread the original question a bit, as I was focused on the SAP only preference. Apologies to all if more confusion was added. -
My child is in a class where majority are taking hcl as part of lessons, she doesn’t need to move ard for Chinese lessons. And we are hoping that hcl gives her more exposure to Chinese to help her improve her CL. On that basis, we don’t mind for her to keep HCL even though she is not scoring well in hcl. Yet to know if sch let her keep hcl for P6, depending on her CL results in SA2.
Her CL is between AL 3 or 2. Other subjects are not AL1 too -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"1999262\" time=\"1602993754\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1999262 time=1602993754 user_id=53606]
Interesting. I've never thought of it this way, although it is (partly) true. You would always rather have a better (i.e. lower) AL level vs. having any of Distinction/Merit/Pass for HCL in the next higher AL level.
HCL is only worth doing if he’s already scoring AL1 in all 4 core subjects.[/quote]
My uncertainty with this strategy is that I'm not sure cutting HCL and only focusing on the main 4 subjects will guarantee that the kid ends up in a better AL (again, probably depends on the starting point for each individual student). And given how wide (# of students) some of these AL bands may be, the tie breaker could be quite important if targeting a SAP school.
I think the biggest thing is that HCL is not a necessity, and if it is going to consume a disproportionate amount of time then it probably isn't worth it. But I'm not sure it is only a detractor either, particularly for those that are doing OK in CL.
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