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    2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)

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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1
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      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"1999253\" time=\"1602990267\" user_id=\"188234:

      Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!

      As far as I am aware, the +3, +2, +1 only applies for SAP schools now as well. I.e. 2019 PSLE scored 258 + 3 means can go NYGH, cannot go RGS.

      So I believe it is similar under the new system. Distinction, Merit, Pass is first tiebreaker within an AL level for SAP schools. For other schools, it has no direct impact.
      https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/special-cases.html

      No it is not similar under the new system.

      The only similarity is the advantage (old and new) applies for SAP secondary schools only.

      The big difference is, under the new system, scoring well for HCL does not add points to “leapfrog“ over someone without HCL. Example, a raw 7 pointer without HCL will still get into the SAP school before any 8 pointers (pass/merit/distinction) can get in.

      Note that even if never take HCL at P6, still can enter SAP schools and take HCL in Sec 1 if meet MOE’s overall criteria (which has been relaxed slightly).

      Whereas under old system, a raw 258+3 is counted as 261, will get to leapfrog over a raw 260 who did not take HCL.[/quote]Sorry, I understand all of the differences you are describing. I may have misread the original question a bit, as I was focused on the SAP only preference. Apologies to all if more confusion was added.

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      • 6 Offline
        6thisnthat9
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        My child is in a class where majority are taking hcl as part of lessons, she doesn’t need to move ard for Chinese lessons. And we are hoping that hcl gives her more exposure to Chinese to help her improve her CL. On that basis, we don’t mind for her to keep HCL even though she is not scoring well in hcl. Yet to know if sch let her keep hcl for P6, depending on her CL results in SA2.

        Her CL is between AL 3 or 2. Other subjects are not AL1 too

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        • SG_KP1S Offline
          SG_KP1
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"1999262\" time=\"1602993754\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1999262 time=1602993754 user_id=53606]
          HCL is only worth doing if he’s already scoring AL1 in all 4 core subjects.[/quote]
          Interesting. I've never thought of it this way, although it is (partly) true. You would always rather have a better (i.e. lower) AL level vs. having any of Distinction/Merit/Pass for HCL in the next higher AL level.

          My uncertainty with this strategy is that I'm not sure cutting HCL and only focusing on the main 4 subjects will guarantee that the kid ends up in a better AL (again, probably depends on the starting point for each individual student). And given how wide (# of students) some of these AL bands may be, the tie breaker could be quite important if targeting a SAP school.

          I think the biggest thing is that HCL is not a necessity, and if it is going to consume a disproportionate amount of time then it probably isn't worth it. But I'm not sure it is only a detractor either, particularly for those that are doing OK in CL.

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            6thisnthat9
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            Same here, our strategy is not to spend extra time in preparing for hcl, except for sch homework and prepare that the score is low. Focus is on CL.


            Agree with you, SGkP1. The extra time gained from not taking hcl would not make too much difference in other subjects for my kids case.

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              tracychew
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              John Lim\" post_id=\"1999016\" time=\"1602816849\" user_id=\"119435:[quote=\"John Lim\" post_id=1999016 time=1602816849 user_id=119435]
              case 1 😓

              my DS PSLE 2010
              English A
              Science A star
              Maths A star (Top 1%)
              Chinese A (fake A :mad: ), A/A* grade for standard Chinese in 2010 PSLE was 82%+- :rotflmao: . Prelim only 50+-, always 50--

              T-score very low only 234 😄[/quote]
              Oh... I really didn't expect that score when I saw the grades...

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                John Lim
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                tracychew\" post_id=\"1999481\" time=\"1603165072\" user_id=\"143434:

                John Lim\" post_id=\"1999016\" time=\"1602816849\" user_id=\"119435:[quote=\"John Lim\" post_id=1999016 time=1602816849 user_id=119435]case 1 😓

                my DS PSLE 2010
                English A
                Science A star
                Maths A star (Top 1%)
                Chinese A (fake A :mad: ), A/A* grade for standard Chinese in 2010 PSLE was 82%+- :rotflmao: . Prelim only 50+-, always 50--

                T-score very low only 234 😄
                Oh... I really didn't expect that score when I saw the grades...[/quote]
                Maths SA1 98, Prelim 98 💪

                Chinese last class 😂

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                  Veyron
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                  zac's mum\" post_id=\"1999261\" time=\"1602993590\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1999261 time=1602993590 user_id=53606]
                  SG_KP1\" post_id=\"1999253\" time=\"1602990267\" user_id=\"188234:

                  Hi, for the new PSLE grading system, there isn’t any advantage of HCL, is it? Can’t add any points like the old system, jus considered priority for SAP schools only?? Thanks!

                  As far as I am aware, the +3, +2, +1 only applies for SAP schools now as well. I.e. 2019 PSLE scored 258 + 3 means can go NYGH, cannot go RGS.

                  So I believe it is similar under the new system. Distinction, Merit, Pass is first tiebreaker within an AL level for SAP schools. For other schools, it has no direct impact.
                  https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/special-cases.html

                  No it is not similar under the new system.

                  The only similarity is the advantage (old and new) applies for SAP secondary schools only.

                  The big difference is, under the new system, scoring well for HCL does not add points to “leapfrog“ over someone without HCL. Example, a raw 7 pointer without HCL will still get into the SAP school before any 8 pointers (pass/merit/distinction) can get in.

                  Note that even if never take HCL at P6, still can enter SAP schools and take HCL in Sec 1 if meet MOE’s overall criteria (which has been relaxed slightly).

                  Whereas under old system, a raw 258+3 is counted as 261, will get to leapfrog over a raw 260 who did not take HCL.[/quote]Under the new AL banding system, i am sure there will be balloting due to larger pool of students have same AL scores. So for SAP school, I think HCL will become an advantage over those who dont. (This is my guess).

                  For students who are able to score AL1 for CL, I am sure they should be able to handle HCL without much problem.

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                  • K Offline
                    KKmama
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                    Hi,


                    Can anyone advise if a drop of marks from 90.plus to 70 plus is normal?

                    My boy results
                    El -81/100
                    Maths-78/100
                    Science-76/100

                    I kept reading its suppose to drop and its normal but I saw and heard some kids are.able to score 90 plus for their latest p5 sa2 and am wondering if 20 marks drop is really normal after all…

                    Also, any kind parents can recommend any good writing class for English?
                    Any comments on Wow and Tas?

                    Please advise
                    …

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                    • John LimJ Offline
                      John Lim
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                      Every year for maths

                      P5 SA1 not easy
                      P5 SA2 very easy
                      P6 CA1, SA1 & prelim not easy

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                      • VeyronV Offline
                        Veyron
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                        John Lim\" post_id=\"2002224\" time=\"1605061275\" user_id=\"119435:[quote=\"John Lim\" post_id=2002224 time=1605061275 user_id=119435]
                        Every year for maths
                        P5 SA1 not easy
                        P5 SA2 very easy
                        P6 CA1, SA1 & prelim not easy[/quote]
                        There is a reason for that. For SA1, more questions are set by school and less from MOE question bank.
                        While in SA2, it is the opposite.

                        Since there is no more SA1 for P5, I would presume that SA2 will now be as challenging.

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