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    • NebbermindN Offline
      Nebbermind
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      mocharita:
      In Exodus, it says, ‘You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything, not to bow down or worship them’.

      However, there are people interpreting it wrongly by bossing,bullying and criticizing
      verbally to others by using this phrase. This is not an act from God at all. By all means believe in what your book says because whatever genuine religious books you are into will not teach you that you are above of ALL.

      Some of these bullies forgotten about Mark 7:17, haiz…

      p.s Sometimes, opps..,I mean most times, we need to think before we talk lor. (regardless of any religions.)
      sorry, I couldn't figure out how Mark 7:17 is related to that commandment. :?

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        schweppes
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        Nebbermind:
        daisyt:

        She cannot understand why there are Christians cannot hold joss stick and don't step in temples.


        It is always the people who misinterpret the religion, regardless if its Christians, Buddhist or Muslim. The worst part is after misinterpret it, spread it and mislead our youngs.

        Believe it all abt personal conviction/commitment, some observe more staunchly to certain religious aspect while less for others.

        I believe a lot of it lies with the intent of the individual and the context in which the individual holds joss sticks or steps into a temple.

        As a Catholic, I will not hold joss sticks and step into temples to pray to other gods. But I may hold the joss stick because I want to pay respect to my late grandfather who was a Buddhist and whose urn is in a temple. The intent here is because I am showing my respect as the eldest grandchild.

        On the same note, I will visit temples because I want to appreciate and understand the beauty and culture that the temple has to offer to its visitors, but not to go there and offer prayers.

        I always believe it is good to learn about the faith and beliefs of other religions. I feel this helps with my personal growth and strengthens my faith further. Afterall, the aim behind all religions is to be a better person and do good to others.

        JMHO :celebrate:

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          tree nymph
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          schweppes:

          I believe a lot of it lies with the intent of the individual and the context in which the individual holds joss sticks or steps into a temple.

          As a Catholic, I will not hold joss sticks and step into temples to pray to other gods. But I may hold the joss stick because I want to pay respect to my late grandfather who was a Buddhist and whose urn is in a temple. The intent here is because I am showing my respect as the eldest grandchild.

          On the same note, I will visit temples because I want to appreciate and understand the beauty and culture that the temple has to offer to its visitors, but not to go there and offer prayers.

          I always believe it is good to learn about the faith and beliefs of other religions. I feel this helps with my personal growth and strengthens my faith further. Afterall, the aim behind all religions is to be a better person and do good to others.

          JMHO :celebrate:
          well said!

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            Fettuccine
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            tree nymph:
            schweppes:


            I believe a lot of it lies with the intent of the individual and the context in which the individual holds joss sticks or steps into a temple.

            As a Catholic, I will not hold joss sticks and step into temples to pray to other gods. But I may hold the joss stick because I want to pay respect to my late grandfather who was a Buddhist and whose urn is in a temple. The intent here is because I am showing my respect as the eldest grandchild.

            On the same note, I will visit temples because I want to appreciate and understand the beauty and culture that the temple has to offer to its visitors, but not to go there and offer prayers.

            I always believe it is good to learn about the faith and beliefs of other religions. I feel this helps with my personal growth and strengthens my faith further. Afterall, the aim behind all religions is to be a better person and do good to others.

            JMHO :celebrate:

            well said!

            Agree too. Regardless of faith or religion, everyone should do good to others.

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              autumnbronze
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              schweppes:

              As a Catholic, I will not hold joss sticks and step into temples to pray to other gods. But I may hold the joss stick because I want to pay respect to my late grandfather who was a Buddhist and whose urn is in a temple. The intent here is because I am showing my respect as the eldest grandchild.

              On the same note, I will visit temples because I want to appreciate and understand the beauty and culture that the temple has to offer to its visitors, but not to go there and offer prayers.

              I always believe it is good to learn about the faith and beliefs of other religions. I feel this helps with my personal growth and strengthens my faith further. Afterall, the aim behind all religions is to be a better person and do good to others.

              JMHO :celebrate:
              Thanks Schweppes,

              You have penned this down succintly and its even more clearer now.

              Yes, respect is imperative .... but you will be surprised how some are not as adaptable or respectful in such a situation as you have highlighted above. A family member faced a similar situation as yours, but refused to pay her respects 😞

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                Sniper Angel
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                dolphinsiah:
                This is my view after watching videos posted in the Youtube on this Pastor.


                This Pastor keeps telling his followers to give and give...then they will get blessing....
                Don't have $$$...sell belongings....

                Correct meh?

                Newspapers also reported donations can be made outside the Church through nets/visa....

                No give $$$ no blessing?

                I feel all the followers must be pressurized to give and give....

                This church has 33,000 followers....if average each of then donate SGD300 per month....

                You know how much they collect each month:
                33,000* 300 ALMOST 10 million.... :!:

                Ask him give me lucky number on 4D or Toto then I give $$. :celebrate:

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                  Sniper Angel
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                  Where to find time go church or temple?Maybe go online church or temple is much more conveneince. Do we have such service in here?

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                    starlight1968sg
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                    If everything is clean and clear, then I am afraid CAD has wasted its time and resources.

                    If something is fishy, I hope CAD is going to put things right.

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                      schweppes
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                      autumnbronze:

                      Yes, respect is imperative .... but you will be surprised how some are not as adaptable or respectful in such a situation as you have highlighted above. A family member faced a similar situation as yours, but refused to pay her respects 😞

                      Hey Autumnbroze, glad the sharing clarified a little.

                      A lot depends on the individual, and one's perception and (mis)interpretation of the holy book and its teachings. I fully agree with Starlight's quote, that \"religion does not differentiate people. It is the people who differentiate the religion\"

                      :lol:

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                        mocharita
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                        Nebbermind:
                        mocharita:

                        In Exodus, it says, ‘You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything, not to bow down or worship them’.

                        However, there are people interpreting it wrongly by bossing,bullying and criticizing
                        verbally to others by using this phrase. This is not an act from God at all. By all means believe in what your book says because whatever genuine religious books you are into will not teach you that you are above of ALL.

                        Some of these bullies forgotten about Mark 7:17, haiz…

                        p.s Sometimes, opps..,I mean most times, we need to think before we talk lor. (regardless of any religions.)

                        sorry, I couldn't figure out how Mark 7:17 is related to that commandment. :?

                        It's related only if you don't live by the commandments alone. That's more to it, babe! 😛 Hmm, no wonder that's a degree for religion studies out there. Tsk..tsk..

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