Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2007304\" time=\"1607479240\" user_id=\"28674:

chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2007298\" time=\"1607476516\" user_id=\"162894:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/suspected-covid-19-case-on-royal-caribbean-cruise-to-nowhere-ship-returns-to-singapore-mid
[quote]Royal Caribbean cruise ship Quantum of the Seas arrived in Singapore on Wednesday (Dec 9) after turning back on day three of a four-day cruise to nowhere due to a confirmed Covid-19 case on board.

\"All passengers undergo a mandatory Covid-19 test prior to boarding, with stringent hygiene and safety measures implemented throughout their passenger journey.\"

I guess this is a timely reminder that we still need to remain vigilant Hope everyone on board will be safe.

The larger the group, the greater the risk of such interruptions! I would still avoid such large groups for now.[/quote]Probably they went on cruise to nowhere, because bored in Sg, nowhere to go, this xmas season. But think that 83 year old person likely to have spread to passengers on board the cruise on day 1 and 2 already esp. at the makan banquet hall, because only on day 3 then he was detected. Goodness ! Some more, they let these passengers go back to work, to school, consequences ...

[sky minecrafter]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2007321\" time=\"1607486841\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2007321 time=1607486841 user_id=53606]...All of them I transfer via PayNow, very convenient for me...[/quote]

Nowadays, contactless payments 👍 My (sec school) dc's school canteen is too (via for example ezlink card). So will the upcoming Edusave disbursement, apparently...

[chenlaoshi]

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chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2007298\" time=\"1607476516\" user_id=\"162894:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/suspected-covid-19-case-on-royal-caribbean-cruise-to-nowhere-ship-returns-to-singapore-mid
[quote]Royal Caribbean cruise ship Quantum of the Seas arrived in Singapore on Wednesday (Dec 9) after turning back on day three of a four-day cruise to nowhere due to a confirmed Covid-19 case on board.

\"All passengers undergo a mandatory Covid-19 test prior to boarding, with stringent hygiene and safety measures implemented throughout their passenger journey.\"

I guess this is a timely reminder that we still need to remain vigilant Hope everyone on board will be safe.

Is that 83-year-old passenger a Singaporean or PR? Where did he pick that virus up from? Thought our community cases are almost zilch these 2 weeks. Is this cruise ship the same one used to quarantine migrant workers few months ago? Wonder if the local/foreign crew's asymptomatic?

Hard to believe the other passengers are free to return to work and school. \"在皇家加勒比国际游轮海洋量子号上，与确诊冠病病例没有密切接触的乘客，下船后仍可去上班或上学。\"

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20201209-1107385?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2xkxzm5siP2jdX3RgCUlw9-V5hS7q5rh4GRQ7Y3cYgOlEqsO4DNkFmXAI#Echobox=1607480138

Are they sure he didn't come into contact with many passengers on the deck, in the F&B & entertainment spaces? After all, he was only detected on Day 3 of his 4-day cruise trip. A lot of surfaces might have been touched by him over 3 days.[/quote]\"The passenger had taken a mandatory Covid-19 PCR test prior to boarding, and was tested negative\" - while this is to highlight they were \"not wrong\" in letting him on board, it also kinda shows that the test prior to boarding mainly serves the purposes of 买个心安。

Gonna test the effectiveness of the tracing system. How close is close contact? Does it extend to those with close contact to crew who had close contact with this positive case?

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chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2007326\" time=\"1607488420\" user_id=\"162894:

\"The passenger had taken a mandatory Covid-19 PCR test prior to boarding, and was tested negative\" - while this is to highlight they were \"not wrong\" in letting him on board, it also kinda shows that the test prior to boarding mainly serves the purposes of 买个心安。

Gonna test the effectiveness of the tracing system. How close is close contact? Does it extend to those with close contact to crew who had close contact with this positive case?

Gosh, pre-testing still come with loopholes. How can we 安心 when we host WEF 2021 (aka 'Davos') in Singapore next May? All the international media, billionaires and heads of state from hard-hit countries come here for the in-person meetings. Hope they all get their vaccine before flying over.

I wonder if the passengers were made to turn on their TT bluetooth? Hope STB will shed some light on this old man's footprint before boarding. I was under the impression Singaporeans are all clear as we're only left with imported cases who will be whisked away to the isolation facilities upon arrival. The FWs have been cleared as I see them resuming work.

[Estéema]

It’ll be very tough for an 83-year old to fight covid. This brings back memories of my FIL when he insisted on fulfilling his wish for a holiday.


I thot the cruise passengers hv not disembark? The entire cruise passengers & crew members shld be heading for quarantine & further tests for next 14-days. Hope the medical team able to help this 83-year-old recover. Does our HealthShield insurance now covers covid hospitalization? SG govt still treat covid patients FOC no change incl foreigners?

Are we ready with vaccines for covid? This shld go to protect our frontliners & elderlies first

[Serendipity]

Estéema\" post_id=\"2007336\" time=\"1607491003\" user_id=\"66413:

It’ll be very tough for an 83-year old to fight covid. This brings back memories of my FIL when he insisted on fulfilling his wish for a holiday.

I thot the cruise passengers hv not disembark? The entire cruise passengers & crew members shld be heading for quarantine & further tests for next 14-days. Hope the medical team able to help this 83-year-old recover. Does our HealthShield insurance now covers covid hospitalization? SG govt still treat covid patients FOC no change incl foreigners?

Are we ready with vaccines for covid? This shld go to protect our frontliners & elderlies first

Shockingly, this is what's reported:

\"In a health advisory issued to cruise passengers, MOH said the Covid-19 case's contacts will be placed on quarantine or health surveillance. Other people on the ship will be required to monitor their health for 14 days from the date of disembarkation and undergo a swab test at the end of the monitoring period.

\"During this period, you may continue with your usual activities, including going to work or school,\" the MOH said.\"

[sharonkhoo]

Serendipity\" post_id=\"2007339\" time=\"1607492675\" user_id=\"9658:

Estéema\" post_id=\"2007336\" time=\"1607491003\" user_id=\"66413:

It’ll be very tough for an 83-year old to fight covid. This brings back memories of my FIL when he insisted on fulfilling his wish for a holiday.

I thot the cruise passengers hv not disembark? The entire cruise passengers & crew members shld be heading for quarantine & further tests for next 14-days. Hope the medical team able to help this 83-year-old recover. Does our HealthShield insurance now covers covid hospitalization? SG govt still treat covid patients FOC no change incl foreigners?

Are we ready with vaccines for covid? This shld go to protect our frontliners & elderlies first

Shockingly, this is what's reported:

\"In a health advisory issued to cruise passengers, MOH said the Covid-19 case's contacts will be placed on quarantine or health surveillance. Other people on the ship will be required to monitor their health for 14 days from the date of disembarkation and undergo a swab test at the end of the monitoring period.

\"During this period, you may continue with your usual activities, including going to work or school,\" the MOH said.\"

According to the report I read on CNA, they were treated just as they would have been on land. All had TT apps/tokens, and close contacts were asked to quarantine/surveillance. The \"usual activities\" applies to the rest of the people. That's why having TT is good. Otherwise the whole ship, crew and passengers, would have to be quarantined.

[Estéema]

I believe in most of our minds, our curiosity is how did the 83-year-old elderly test negative & caught the covid subsequently whilst on board.


I hazarding a guess that every single passenger & crew member will be swap & results known within hours & only those not positive will be told to return observing their health closely next 14 days, whilst trying to segregate those who wld be identified during the swap. Hope this is safe enuf, but our anxieties are still there - if these passage gets & crews go into community will they spread?

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\"According to STB, crew members on these cruises are subjected to stringent measures beyond Singapore’s prevailing requirements for cross-border travel.


Crew members who need to enter Singapore must first undergo 14 days isolation in their home country and must test negative for COVID-19 before their departure.

They will also be tested on arrival in Singapore and serve a 14-day stay-home notice. They will be tested again at the end of the notice period, and be subject to routine tests once sailings begin.\"

So cruise crew members came from abroad to service the 1,400 Singapore citizens per trip?

On a normal cruise running at full capacity, there should be 1,000 crew members servicing 2,000-3,000 passengers.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-genting-royal-caribbean-cruise-nowhere-stb-tourism-13228036

At least from this article we know the old man and travel party will be compensated.

\"Full refunds will be provided if a guest, or any member of their travel party, tests positive during the cruise, it added.

\"Royal Caribbean will cover COVID-19 related costs up to S$25,000 per person in the travel party for onboard medical costs, any required quarantine and travel home,\" it said.

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https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-12-08/singapore-cruise-to-nowhere-turns-back-after-covid-19-case-aboard


There were 1,680 guests and 1,148 crew members on board, a spokesperson for Royal Caribbean said!

All of them were told to stay onboard. Good Lord! I thought they were allowed to go home?

Really, thankfully I changed my mind about taking my elderly vulnerable parents on this cruise.