Choosing and Evaluating Primary Schools

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phtthp\" post_id=\"2016551\" time=\"1614786023\" user_id=\"35251:

It’s going to be an incremental change rather than a revolutionary change. I won’t be surprised if the number of seats reserved for 2C is increased to 25 (and I think it’s unlikely to be more than 30).

Ultimately, to prevent balloting never seems to be the aim. Thru measures introduced in previous years, such as the reserving 20 / 20 places for 2B / 2C and MK priority at 2A2, the number of schools balloting have increased and the distance that they are balloting for is getting closer to < 1km. Hence, it could be argued that applicants (across the different phases) are now living nearer to the schools than ever before.

Imp75\" post_id=\"2016568\" time=\"1614816161\" user_id=\"2358:[quote=Imp75 post_id=2016568 time=1614816161 user_id=2358]Maybe simply split 1/3 each for each phase 2A 2B and 2C to be fair. Keep phase 1 intact. For rich and resourceful alumni, they can try at 2A then 2B then 2C, triple chance than a commoner.

Interestingly, the review isn’t centered on increasing the diversity of the schools, ie letting those without previous relationship getting in. If it is, a capping of places for the earlier phases or a % to reserve (instead of hard capping to 20/20) would have been more appropriate I think.

[Stevenage]

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If it is, a capping of places for the earlier phases or a % to reserve (instead of hard capping to 20/20) would have been more appropriate I think.

This makes more sense IMHO.
20 out of 210 is 9.5%
20 out of 390 is only 5.1%.

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Stevenage\" post_id=\"2016575\" time=\"1614818720\" user_id=\"89746:

floppy\" post_id=\"2016571\" time=\"1614817386\" user_id=\"97579:

If it is, a capping of places for the earlier phases or a % to reserve (instead of hard capping to 20/20) would have been more appropriate I think.

This makes more sense IMHO.
20 out of 210 is 9.5%
20 out of 390 is only 5.1%.

They should look at 10% and no less than 20 / 20.

In this case, it would 20 / 20 out of 210 and 390. However, when you make the adjustment, you only need to move the % needle. That said, increasing diversity and opening up places to “non-related” applicants isn’t the main aim.

[Imp75]

From hearing min wong speech it did appear that preserving traditions via alumni is very important but so is diversity. Now thinking back, why do we need phase 2b for peeps who are not remotely related to the school? Give all the spaces to phase 2c?

[ResilienceLC]

Phase 2 B are for people that serves.

Serve the school, the community, the country etc.

This is but one small little way they can ‘rewarded’

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ResilienceLC\" post_id=\"2016565\" time=\"1614814672\" user_id=\"191449:

The number of Primary 1 places are limited and is fixed.
Any adjustments in number of places in any of the phases will affect the number of places in other phases.

That said - 20 places for Phase 2C is really really very little.
That means - only 20 non related 'outsiders' can get into the school.
It is timely for the review

agree.

20 seats for 2C, is pathetic.
Looks like they will cap 2A1, so that more seats can be released to 2C.

Unlikely to touch Phase 1.
All siblings from Phase 1 ought to enter, since their \"gor gor\" \"Jie jie\" already currently studying inside the school

[Touch_me_not]

ResilienceLC\" post_id=\"2016581\" time=\"1614820093\" user_id=\"191449:

Phase 2 B are for people that serves.
Serve the school, the community, the country etc.

This is but one small little way they can 'rewarded'

Also for folks with religious affiliation and clan associations. I believe many would still place those two factors as top priorities when choosing schools.

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Imp75\" post_id=\"2016579\" time=\"1614819374\" user_id=\"2358:

From hearing min wong speech it did appear that preserving traditions via alumni is very important but so is diversity. Now thinking back, why do we need phase 2b for peeps who are not remotely related to the school? Give all the spaces to phase 2c?

2B is a complicated phase.

There are groups of people who are not related to the school (*ahem* selective groups of GRL) but there are also groups of people whom the school’s identity is intrinsically linked to (clans, religious bodies). Then, there are those who are there for the purpose of gaining priority to the school (PV).

IMHO I think they should do away with the first group, continue with the second group and rethink about what to do with the third group in a meaningful way.

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ResilienceLC\" post_id=\"2016581\" time=\"1614820093\" user_id=\"191449:

Phase 2 B are for people that serves.
Serve the school, the community, the country etc.

This is but one small little way they can 'rewarded'

Doing without expecting a return is a service.
Doing while expecting some sort of return is a transaction.

[Stevenage]

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ResilienceLC\" post_id=\"2016581\" time=\"1614820093\" user_id=\"191449:

Phase 2 B are for people that serves.
Serve the school, the community, the country etc.

This is but one small little way they can 'rewarded'

Doing without expecting a return is a service.
Doing while expecting some sort of return is a transaction.

Exactly.
Perhaps this is what the Ministry is already looking at.