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    * Eunoia JC (EJC)

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    • N Offline
      ngl2010
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      doodbug\" post_id=\"2017708\" time=\"1615873617\" user_id=\"13281:

      I believe (teachers here, please feel free to comment) the intake numbers are solely determined by MOE.
      Even for independent schools, they cannot set their own intake numbers. Only private international schools can.
      No school can suddenly increase intake by 100 JAE a year - it has to be planned for and catered for by MOE because you need to have the teachers posted in to teach the additional students! Teacher deployment is by MOE, except for teachers which are directly employed by independent schools. (However EJC is not an independent school and teacher numbers and deployment are solely determined by MOE.) Independent schools do have a proportion of directly contracted teachers, as well as a sizable pool of MOE teachers.
      That was what I heard a few years ago when attending a school talk. Cannot suka suka increase or decrease proportion of IP and JAE. All decisions are made by MOE.

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        Whyyhw
        last edited by

        ngl2010\" post_id=\"2017732\" time=\"1615888910\" user_id=\"40978:

        doodbug\" post_id=\"2017708\" time=\"1615873617\" user_id=\"13281:

        I believe (teachers here, please feel free to comment) the intake numbers are solely determined by MOE.
        Even for independent schools, they cannot set their own intake numbers. Only private international schools can.
        No school can suddenly increase intake by 100 JAE a year - it has to be planned for and catered for by MOE because you need to have the teachers posted in to teach the additional students! Teacher deployment is by MOE, except for teachers which are directly employed by independent schools. (However EJC is not an independent school and teacher numbers and deployment are solely determined by MOE.) Independent schools do have a proportion of directly contracted teachers, as well as a sizable pool of MOE teachers.

        That was what I heard a few years ago when attending a school talk. Cannot suka suka increase or decrease proportion of IP and JAE. All decisions are made by MOE.

        So moe has always wanted HCI/RI to be top 1 or 2 by having more ip kids?

        Dhs and Rv have 80% ip kids inside but this time results plunged.

        Moe also plan to maintain Ejc std by maintaining its 60% ip kids.

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
          last edited by

          If you want to be called an "IP-JC", then Yes,


          believed that
          the percentage of IP students will always exceed that of JAE. Moe decide what targeted %tage of IP students to set at, for admission.

          Otherwise,
          why would people even name & call them "IP-JC" (A-level), in the very first place ?

          Hwa Chong : 70% (IP), 30% (JAE)

          Dunman High and River Valley High : 80 % (IP), 20% (JAE)


          Eunoia JC : 60 % (IP), but Eunoia is different from Hwa Chong/ Dunman High / River Valley High

          Why different ?

          Because

          EJC come from 3 different Secondary schools, not from your usual standard 2 schools (boys Hwa Chong side and Girls from Nanyang Girls High side)

          Nor like the 2 standard boys Victoria school & Cedar Girls Sec

          Temasek JC : ? Percentage of IP vs. JAE ?

          Victoria JC ? Percentage of IP ?

          National JC ?

          RI ?

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          • lee_ylL Offline
            lee_yl
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            Whyyhw\" post_id=\"2017923\" time=\"1616076595\" user_id=\"191857:

            ngl2010\" post_id=\"2017732\" time=\"1615888910\" user_id=\"40978:

            [quote=doodbug post_id=2017708 time=1615873617 user_id=13281]I believe (teachers here, please feel free to comment) the intake numbers are solely determined by MOE.
            Even for independent schools, they cannot set their own intake numbers. Only private international schools can.
            No school can suddenly increase intake by 100 JAE a year - it has to be planned for and catered for by MOE because you need to have the teachers posted in to teach the additional students! Teacher deployment is by MOE, except for teachers which are directly employed by independent schools. (However EJC is not an independent school and teacher numbers and deployment are solely determined by MOE.) Independent schools do have a proportion of directly contracted teachers, as well as a sizable pool of MOE teachers.

            That was what I heard a few years ago when attending a school talk. Cannot suka suka increase or decrease proportion of IP and JAE. All decisions are made by MOE.

            So moe has always wanted HCI/RI to be top 1 or 2 by having more ip kids?

            Dhs and Rv have 80% ip kids inside but this time results plunged.

            Moe also plan to maintain Ejc std by maintaining its 60% ip kids.[/quote]Top 1 or 2 JCs must have more IP kids?
            Are you insulting NYJC which has zero IP kids?
            What is the point of your your question?

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              Whyyhw
              last edited by

              lee_yl\" post_id=\"2017926\" time=\"1616078339\" user_id=\"17023:

              Whyyhw\" post_id=\"2017923\" time=\"1616076595\" user_id=\"191857:

              [quote=ngl2010 post_id=2017732 time=1615888910 user_id=40978]
              That was what I heard a few years ago when attending a school talk. Cannot suka suka increase or decrease proportion of IP and JAE. All decisions are made by MOE.

              So moe has always wanted HCI/RI to be top 1 or 2 by having more ip kids?

              Dhs and Rv have 80% ip kids inside but this time results plunged.

              Moe also plan to maintain Ejc std by maintaining its 60% ip kids.

              Top 1 or 2 JCs must have more IP kids?
              Are you insulting NYJC which has zero IP kids?
              What is the point of your your question?[/quote]Hci obviously have 70% ip kids as shared.
              But then Dhs/Rv which have more ip , didnt do well.
              Point is Moe controls num of ip kids cohort, thus hoping ip jcs can do well.
              Hci and maybe RI will always be num 1, 2.

              Ejc , still need to ascertain for a few years more, but its expected to do fairly ok as has more ip kids too.

              The issue discussed is ip jcs only.
              Out of context on jae jcs.

              Generally ip jcs tend to outshine more with moe support except Dhs, Rv, Njc, Tjc.

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              • W Offline
                Whyyhw
                last edited by

                phtthp\" post_id=\"2017925\" time=\"1616077767\" user_id=\"35251:

                If you want to be called an \"IP-JC\", then Yes,

                believed that
                the percentage of IP students will always exceed that of JAE. Moe decide what targeted %tage of IP students to set at, for admission.

                Otherwise,
                why would people even name & call them \"IP-JC\" (A-level), in the very first place ?

                Hwa Chong : 70% (IP), 30% (JAE)

                Dunman High and River Valley High : 80 % (IP), 20% (JAE)


                Eunoia JC : 60 % (IP), but Eunoia is different from Hwa Chong/ Dunman High / River Valley High

                Why different ?

                Because

                EJC come from 3 different Secondary schools, not from your usual standard 2 schools (boys Hwa Chong side and Girls from Nanyang Girls High side)

                Nor like the 2 standard boys Victoria school & Cedar Girls Sec

                Temasek JC : ? Percentage of IP vs. JAE ?

                Victoria JC ? Percentage of IP ?

                National JC ?

                RI ?
                Vjc 40% ip
                Njc about 30-40 % ip

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
                  last edited by

                  How about Temasek JC ?

                  What is the %tage of IP vs. JAE ?

                  50 % each ?

                  ===========================

                  How about RI ?


                  ratio (proportion ) also the same as, identical to Hwa Chong ?

                  also 70% (IP) vs. 30 % (JAE) ?

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                    Whyyhw
                    last edited by

                    phtthp\" post_id=\"2017942\" time=\"1616108184\" user_id=\"35251:

                    How about Temasek JC ?
                    What is the %tage of IP vs. JAE ?

                    50 % each ?

                    ===========================

                    How about RI ?

                    The same as Hwa Chong,
                    ratio (proportion ) also the same as Hwa Chong ?

                    70% (IP) vs. 30 % (JAE) ?
                    I reckon RI has more ip kids.
                    Do you think moe will allow RI to drop its std. So sure ne ip kids to sustain its long track acad.
                    Not to deny, RI JAEs are from top % cohort.
                    RI sure excel than other JCs esp JAE JCs.

                    Tjc ah, dk.
                    But from its so so A level results for a IP JC, should be more JAEs.

                    No wonder, moe abolish Sch/ JC Ranking, can see ip JCs are not performing as gd as expected.

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                    • lee_ylL Offline
                      lee_yl
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                      Whyyhw\" post_id=\"2017927\" time=\"1616079700\" user_id=\"191857:

                      lee_yl\" post_id=\"2017926\" time=\"1616078339\" user_id=\"17023:

                      [quote=Whyyhw post_id=2017923 time=1616076595 user_id=191857]

                      So moe has always wanted HCI/RI to be top 1 or 2 by having more ip kids?

                      Dhs and Rv have 80% ip kids inside but this time results plunged.

                      Moe also plan to maintain Ejc std by maintaining its 60% ip kids.

                      Top 1 or 2 JCs must have more IP kids?
                      Are you insulting NYJC which has zero IP kids?
                      What is the point of your your question?

                      Hci obviously have 70% ip kids as shared.
                      But then Dhs/Rv which have more ip , didnt do well.
                      Point is Moe controls num of ip kids cohort, thus hoping ip jcs can do well.
                      Hci and maybe RI will always be num 1, 2.

                      Ejc , still need to ascertain for a few years more, but its expected to do fairly ok as has more ip kids too.

                      The issue discussed is ip jcs only.
                      Out of context on jae jcs.

                      Generally ip jcs tend to outshine more with moe support except Dhs, Rv, Njc, Tjc.[/quote]You seem obsessed with the idea that DHS/RV didn’t do well. I think you should discuss this in the DHS or RV home thread, not here.

                      RI/HCI? Pls post your questions in the respective threads.

                      Earlier you even insinuated that EJC wants to maintain its standard so despite a large campus, it only accepts 40% JAE students. One parent here already pointed out that the students enrollment is controlled by MOE, not by the school! Please get your facts right and stop trying to hijack the thread here for your own selfish purposes.This is EJC home thread and it’s meant for EJC parents to network and share, not a platform for your obsessive rants!

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                      • G Offline
                        gentlemaski
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                        True to certain extend if w/out ip students, ip JCs wont able to sustain their A level stds.


                        Even Ejc latest results, if not for its big ip cohort, its jae results alone wont match top tier jcs.
                        My kakis Ejc jae divluge Ejc jae results average.
                        But ip commendable results helped pulled up overall results.

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