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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • K Offline
      Kimm
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"2018089\" time=\"1616303347\" user_id=\"17023:

      Kimm\" post_id=\"2018085\" time=\"1616301575\" user_id=\"191983:

      [quote=doodbug post_id=2018081 time=1616297283 user_id=13281]

      The school management of the JCs all know the results profile of their students - but this is not disclosed, even to the wider teacher group. I would say, unless you have heard from a JC principal/ VP/ school leader, none of us actually authoritatively know the difference in level of performance between JAEs and IP students within each school.

      What is a fact is that there is a very large degree of overlap and there will be many JAE students who outperform IP students, and vice versa. If the distinction was so clear cut and PSLE is such a definitive indicator of subsequent performance, then what is the point of JAE. I totally agree that in RI, HCI and all other IP JCs, the top classes will have a mix of JAE and IP students.

      Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
      Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.

      Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

      Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?[/quote]Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

      Also, inject instead 80% IP students into EJC, you hoping?
      So EJC can clinch PSC Scholarships to satisfy ur own obsessive bias.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
        lee_yl
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        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2018089\" time=\"1616303347\" user_id=\"17023:

        [quote=Kimm post_id=2018085 time=1616301575 user_id=191983]

        Perhaps moe should place IP students into mid tier JCs, monitor their performance.
        Im sure these JCs stds sure shoot up.

        Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

        Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?

        Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

        Also, inject instead 80% IP students into EJC, you hoping?
        So EJC can clinch PSC Scholarships to satisfy ur own obsessive bias.[/quote]Only you capable of imagining lah.
        Inject 60% or 80% not up to you or me to say, it is decided by MOE.

        I am not worried for EJC, it’s growing from strength to strength. And in its short span of existence, its students have already clinched a number of PSC Scholarships.

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        • doodbugD Offline
          doodbug
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          If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.


          I’m not overly concerned about EJC’s academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

          That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She’s so happy in her Sec Sch and isn’t looking forward to JC so we’ll see.

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            Dino
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            doodbug\" post_id=\"2018096\" time=\"1616306060\" user_id=\"13281:

            If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

            I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

            That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.
            nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

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              phtthp
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              Kimm\" post_id=\"2018092\" time=\"1616304595\" user_id=\"191983:

              lee_yl\" post_id=\"2018089\" time=\"1616303347\" user_id=\"17023:



              Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

              Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?

              Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

              How to turn Nanyang Junior College, into an IP JC ?

              It has to start, right after PSLE over.


              Currently, Nanyang Junior College take in affliated co-ed Secondary students, from two Chung Cheng High (Main & Yushun) schools.

              In order to inject IP students just after PSLE into NYJC, can propose to MOE to

              a) convert both Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun) Express stream O-level track, into IP Secondary schools and then

              b) perhaps, invite Crescent Girls Secondary to be a partner school ?

              After all, Crescent Girls is a good O-level Secondary school, just like

              Cedar Girls Secondary, who have already been \"bethrothed\" to Victoria Secondary, to form the affliated alliance IP-Victoria JC

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                phtthp
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                Dino\" post_id=\"2018174\" time=\"1616406266\" user_id=\"6726:

                doodbug\" post_id=\"2018096\" time=\"1616306060\" user_id=\"13281:

                If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

                I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

                That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.

                nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

                Nanyang Girls High already been \"bethrothed\" to Hwa Chong.
                Hwa Chong already taken up, \"choped\" all the Nanyang Girls. The girls there \"min hua you zu\", not available anymore.


                Hence, Chung Cheng High (both Main & Yishun) Express stream, must look for another potential partner to pair up with, in order to become an IP school, taking in students right after PSLE.

                To become an IP (A level Secondary school), minimum expected to be at least
                (Tscore 250 or AL 8 points).


                Thus,
                even if Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun branches, Express stream track) Psle COP are 24x and Crescent Girls also 24x, and Anderson Secondary (co-ed) also 24x, can consider, convert into IP. The higher end of 24x, the closer towards 250, the better choice

                Chung Cheng High (Main), is a SAP school, offer only Express stream, no Normal stream.

                For CCHM to convert into an IP Secondary school, if look for common basis background to partner with, if Crescent Girls (Non-SAP school) not suitable, can consider partner


                - with Nan Chiau High (PSLE COP also 24x) or

                - with Anglican High

                because these two are SAP schools, have common background for communication

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                  Whyyhww
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                  phtthp\" post_id=\"2018176\" time=\"1616408849\" user_id=\"35251:

                  Dino\" post_id=\"2018174\" time=\"1616406266\" user_id=\"6726:

                  [quote=doodbug post_id=2018096 time=1616306060 user_id=13281]If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

                  I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

                  That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.

                  nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

                  Nanyang Girls High already been \"bethrothed\" to Hwa Chong.
                  Hwa Chong already taken up, \"choped\" all the Nanyang Girls. The girls there \"min hua you zu\", not available anymore.


                  Hence, Chung Cheng High (both Main & Yishun) Express stream, must look for another potential partner to pair up with, in order to become an IP school, taking in students right after PSLE.

                  To become an IP (A level Secondary school), minimum expected to be at least
                  (Tscore 250 or AL 8 points).


                  Thus,
                  even if Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun branches, Express stream track) Psle COP are 24x and Crescent Girls also 24x, and Anderson Secondary (co-ed) also 24x, can consider, convert into IP. The higher end of 24x, the closer towards 250, the better choice

                  Chung Cheng High (Main), is a SAP school, offer only Express stream, no Normal stream.

                  For CCHM to convert into an IP Secondary school, if look for common basis background to partner with, if Crescent Girls (Non-SAP school) not suitable, can consider partner


                  - with Nan Chiau High (PSLE COP also 24x) or

                  - with Anglican High

                  because these two are SAP schools, have common background for communication[/quote]NCH, CCHMain and Crescent Girls'= Perfect!
                  AHS standard not too sure.
                  Doesnt hv to be all SAP.
                  Scgs isnt SAP but still chosen to be Ejc IP.

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                  • doodbugD Offline
                    doodbug
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                    location-wise crescent girls are at the opposite end of the island though lol 🙂

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                      Whyyhww
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                      location-wise crescent girls are at the opposite end of the island though lol 🙂
                      Ya right, I know.
                      Nan Hua can consider as many CGSS & esp NH kids do opt Nyjc regardless of its distance.

                      Moe shd consider having higher range T Score 24X kids experience IP Education from sec 1.

                      To prevent Elistism brewing.

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                      • doodbugD Offline
                        doodbug
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                        Actually a lot of the 24X kids score well at O levels and want the freedom to choose any JC. In fact, I think a good number of 25X kids are in the O level programme at MGS, SCGS, SNGS and CHS. There are also 25X kids at CCHS, Nan Hua High etc - they opted not to do IP also in part because they want the freedom to choose JCs or Poly courses later on.

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