2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2021387\" time=\"1619450775\" user_id=\"162894:
Chenlaoshi
Sharing some CL oral topics tested so far in some of this year's SA1 exam
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- 遵守规矩
- 注意卫生
- 诚实
- 环保
- 节省资源
Will you be doing another oral workshop in Jun holidays? I have been too busy due to work to login here so I missed your Mar one. Can pm me please? -
chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2021387\" time=\"1619450775\" user_id=\"162894:
Chen Laoshi,
Sharing some CL oral topics tested so far in some of this year's SA1 exam :
- 遵守规矩
- 注意卫生
- 诚实
- 环保
- 节省资源
May I know more about your oral workshop?
Thank you. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2021482\" time=\"1619518024\" user_id=\"35251:
COP is the PSLE score of the last pupil admitted into the school. So if for year 2021 (S1 Admission 2022), the COP for CHS IP is 8(M), then students with 8(P) and below (ie., 8, 9(D), ...) will be unsuccessful even in they put CHS IP as first choice. Similarly, the students in the other 2 examples you quoted above will not be successful.
Let's zoom into above SAP schools, based on 2020 cohort
How do you interpret CHS ?
Suppose two boys applied for Catholic High (CHS).
One boy applied for IP.
He gotten 8 AL points but his HCL is only a \"Pass\", not \"Merit\".
Does it mean that he failed to enter Catholic High (IP), because noticed that Moe specified IP cut off at 8 points with a \"Merit\" in Higher Chinese, not just merely acquired a \"Pass\" ?
The second boy (Non affliation ) scored AL 9 points, also with a Pass in HCL.
Does it mean that he failed to enter CHS (O level track), because he acquired a \"Pass \" in HCL, not a \"Merit\", but MOE specify must have at least a \"Merit\" for O-level course, whose Cut off point AL 9 ?
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How to interpret River Valley High (RV), whose Cut off at AL 9, with \"Distinction\" in Higher Chinese ?
Does it mean all those students with AL 9 who applied for RV, but armed with either a \"Pass\" or \"Merit\" in their HCL -
all didn't make it to RV ?
If true,
means all those who are applying for SAP schools, their HCL performance ranking is important, because the sequence of choosing your 6 choices schools become crucial -
coast\" post_id=\"2021573\" time=\"1619580876\" user_id=\"38933:
Based on 2020 cohort simulation results, looks like
COP is the PSLE score of the last pupil admitted into the school. So if for year 2021 (S1 Admission 2022), the COP for CHS IP is 8(M), then students with 8(P) and below (ie., 8, 9(D), ...) will be unsuccessful even in they put CHS IP as first choice. Similarly, the students in the other 2 examples you quoted above will not be successful.
if want to enter SAP schools but students gotten only a \"Pass\" in HCL, under AL S1 posting system, slim chance of admission.
As good as not having sat for Psle HCL paper at all, despite studying hard in HCL. Minimum need a \"Merit\" ?
A far cry from old Tscore system !
Even a +1 bonus point (Pass in HCL) was so useful ! -
Every system will have pros and cons. My nephew 4 years ago had T-score of 254 (but no A-star, only 4 A), so likely his AL score is 8 (assuming A-star is 1 and A is 2). He entered CHS IP on that year, so next year, he will not make it to CHS IP. Another example is my DD’s classmate in last year PSLE, who scored 256 with 3 A-star and 1 A, so AL 5 score. Can make it to the independent schools next year, whereas last year she cannot enter into RGS and NYGH, but went MGS IP.
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CCK2008\" post_id=\"2021592\" time=\"1619588945\" user_id=\"26004:
3A* is AL1x3 but
Every system will have pros and cons. My nephew 4 years ago had T-score of 254 (but no A-star, only 4 A), so likely his AL score is 8 (assuming A-star is 1 and A is 2). He entered CHS IP on that year, so next year, he will not make it to CHS IP. Another example is my DD's classmate in last year PSLE, who scored 256 with 3 A-star and 1 A, so AL 5 score. Can make it to the independent schools next year, whereas last year she cannot enter into RGS and NYGH, but went MGS IP.
1A can be above 75, AL4 -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2021482\" time=\"1619518024\" user_id=\"35251:
If CHS COP is AL8 with or without HCL, AL9 boy cannot get in, even if he gets Distinction for HCL
Let's zoom into above SAP schools, based on 2020 cohortcoast\" post_id=\"2021474\" time=\"1619516923\" user_id=\"38933:
https://www.moe.gov.sg/schoolfinder/?journey=Secondary%20school
Indicate PSLE Score Range of 2020 for IP Schools
Note (for SAP schools)
HCL Grade: (D) = Distinction, (M) = Merit, (P) = Pass; The HCL grades of the first and last student admitted into SAP schools are reflected in parenthesis. If the first or last student did not take or pass HCL, no HCL grades will be shown.
1)
Catholic High School
Integrated Programme 5(M) - 8(M)
Express Affiliated 6(M) - 12
Express Non-affiliated 6(M) - 9(M)
2)
CHIJ St. Nicholas Girls' School
Integrated Programme 4(D) - 7(M)
Express Affiliated 5(D) - 14
Express Non-affiliated 5(D) - 8(M)
3)
Dunman High School 4(D) - 8(D)
4)
Hwa Chong Institution 4(D) - 7(M)
5)
Nanyang Girls' High School
Affiliated 4(D) - 8(M)
Non-affiliated 4(D) - 7(M)
6)
River Valley High School 4(M) - 9(D)
How do you interpret CHS ?
Suppose two boys applied for Catholic High (CHS).
One boy applied for IP.
He gotten 8 AL points but his HCL is only a \"Pass\", not \"Merit\".
Does it mean that he failed to enter Catholic High (IP), because noticed that Moe specified IP cut off at 8 points with a \"Merit\" in Higher Chinese, not just merely acquired a \"Pass\" ?
The second boy (Non affliation ) scored AL 9 points, also with a Pass in HCL.
Does it mean that he failed to enter CHS (O level track), because he acquired a \"Pass \" in HCL, not a \"Merit\", but MOE specify must have at least a \"Merit\" for O-level course, whose Cut off point AL 9 ?
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How to interpret River Valley High (RV), whose Cut off at AL 9, with \"Distinction\" in Higher Chinese ?
Does it mean all those students with AL 9 who applied for RV, but armed with either a \"Pass\" or \"Merit\" in their HCL -
all didn't make it to RV ?
If true,
means all those who are applying for SAP schools, their HCL performance ranking is important, because the sequence of choosing your 6 choices schools become crucial
I interpret like this
Example CHS has 200 vacancy,
there are 180 applicants with AL4 - AL7, these boys all get in.
Left with 20 vacancy
If there are 30 applicants with AL8 and pass HCL and 10 applicants with AL8 without HCL or take but didn't pass; so these 10boys without HCL or take but didn't pass don't get chance at all
The order for 30 applicants with AL8 and pass HCL will follow their HCL results
example 15boys with Distinction get in first
Left with 5 vacancy
If there are 10 boys with Merit and 5 boys with Pass only, these 5boys are out
10boys with Merit will be checked on their citizenship
if 2 boys are PR or foreigner, these 2 boys are also out
8 SC boys with Merit will be checked on their choice order
If 4 boys put CHS as order no 1, they are in
Left with 1 vacancy
If only 1 from 4 boys left put CHS as order no 2, he is in and the rest are out
If there are 2boys put CHS as order no 2 and the other 2boys put CHS as no 3, system will kick out 2boys who put CHS as order no 3 and will ballot 2boys who put CHS as order no 2 to determine who get the last vacancy. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2021578\" time=\"1619583731\" user_id=\"35251:
If the kids get better AL than COP eventhough only Pass HCL or even fail, it doesn't matter.
Based on 2020 cohort simulation results, looks likecoast\" post_id=\"2021573\" time=\"1619580876\" user_id=\"38933:
COP is the PSLE score of the last pupil admitted into the school. So if for year 2021 (S1 Admission 2022), the COP for CHS IP is 8(M), then students with 8(P) and below (ie., 8, 9(D), ...) will be unsuccessful even in they put CHS IP as first choice. Similarly, the students in the other 2 examples you quoted above will not be successful.
if want to enter SAP schools but students gotten only a \"Pass\" in HCL, under AL S1 posting system, slim chance of admission.
As good as not having sat for Psle HCL paper at all, despite studying hard in HCL. Minimum need a \"Merit\" ?
A far cry from old Tscore system !
Even a +1 bonus point (Pass in HCL) was so useful !
Let's see in last t-score system
If COP CHS 256 and the kids got 257 or above with or without HCL, they still all get in
Kids with 254 and HCL Pass also cannot get in
Kids with 254 and HCL Merit may get in if lucky balloted in or also may be balloted out.
Kids with 252 and HCL Distinction also cannot get in BUT in AL system these 252 kids may have AL8 which may be the same with other kids who 254 HCL merit (also AL8)
Always have positive and negative point of view, but better see the positive -
Just a guide, my DD entered NYGH via last year PSLE, there is 12 classes in secondary 1. I understand from her that 4 of these classes are for GEP students with slightly smaller class size (range from 25 to 30), versus the normal 8 IP classes (about 35 or 36 students). The whole cohort is about ~380, but 100+ are GEP students through DSA. There are also many others DSA through sports etc and affiliation through NYPS, so maybe less than 200 through PSLE results. Hwa Chong (boy school) also the same. I believe it is the same as in RGS and RI. Almost all GEP students went into these 4 schools. Every GEP cohort is about 500 students. So there will be 500 less places from these 4 top schools. In NYGH, they called these classes SBGE classes.
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CCK2008\" post_id=\"2021617\" time=\"1619595058\" user_id=\"26004:
Not almost all.
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Almost all GEP students went into these 4 schools. Every GEP cohort is about 500 students. So there will be 500 less places from these 4 top schools.
A significant number goes to NUSH. Some goes to ACSI for boys.
A number also cannot secure a DSA place as general academic ability has been removed as a DSA option. They would need to be exceptionally strong in 1 subject (typically math or science) for DSA or rely on PSLE score, that is, if they are keen on one of the four schools.
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