Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[sharonkhoo]

phtthp\" post_id=\"2027482\" time=\"1624002914\" user_id=\"35251:

Let's say,
in a common family of 4 :
( father, mother + 2 kids), then

need 2 tables nearby,
because from the SAME family household.

Eg.

Father sit with daughter, while

Mother sit with son.

But if so troublesome, might as well eat at home

For the family of 6, then need 3 tables ! But if go at crowded dinner time, may not be able to find 3 tables

For a family, it's probably not very convenient and they will probably do this only if they on their way between 2 places; if not, might as well eat at home or dabao home. But at least they have that option. I think this up-to-2-person dining in is good for those who work outside the home a lot like the delivery workers - at least they don't have to dabao and look for somewhere to sit and eat, or people meeting one-on-one. And it allows dating couples to eat outside, not in either home (may boost family formation?). And it does help the F&B businesses a little too.

So, a half-measure, though not as much as what we hoped. My dinner with my parents has now moved home again (was supposed to be a restaurant meal to mark a birthday, F. day and another celebration all combined).

[phtthp]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2027489\" time=\"1624011207\" user_id=\"28674:

phtthp\" post_id=\"2027482\" time=\"1624002914\" user_id=\"35251:

Let's say,
in a common family of 4 :
( father, mother + 2 kids), then

need 2 tables nearby,
because from the SAME family household.

Eg.

Father sit with daughter, while

Mother sit with son.

But if so troublesome, might as well eat at home

For the family of 6, then need 3 tables ! But if go at crowded dinner time, may not be able to find 3 tables

For a family, it's probably not very convenient and they will probably do this only if they on their way between 2 places; if not, might as well eat at home or dabao home. But at least they have that option. I think this up-to-2-person dining in is good for those who work outside the home a lot like the delivery workers - at least they don't have to dabao and look for somewhere to sit and eat, or people meeting one-on-one. And it allows dating couples to eat outside, not in either home (may boost family formation?). And it does help the F&B businesses a little too.

So, a half-measure, though not as much as what we hoped. My dinner with my parents has now moved home again (was supposed to be a restaurant meal to mark a birthday, F. day and another celebration all combined).

Open up dine-in for 2, is way better than not opening up at all. At least, taxi drivers can eat on the spot at the hawker centre, instead of hide inside their taxi to eat lunch / dinner.

Also, for noodles, is good to eat on the spot. When u dabao home, the noodle turned soggy, not nice.

[chenlaoshi]

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[MrsKiasu]

My guess for the split of 2pax a table even fm same household is to facilitate the SMM of the restaurant…meaning all tables will be 2pax max. And if it is odd no in a family outing. The last member of the family is to sit alone no sharing of table with stranger ba.

[phtthp]

Schootopia\" post_id=\"2027503\" time=\"1624025614\" user_id=\"143961:

Some minister was joking right?

A family of 4/6 eat together at same table at home all the time need to sit in 2s at the restaurant.

Like that we need to stretch our hand for 1 metre to pass the dishes.

Great for optics...

How does that reduce spread?

Isn't it wayang all along?

Who came out, with this idea of 2 ?
The same family of more than 2 cannot sit together, for dine in ?
SAME family !

So, at home,
u all eat in separate room ?

Husband & wife eat in dining room,
2 siblings eat inside the kitchen, and if more siblings,
eat inside the bedroom ?

[pirate]

Schootopia\" post_id=\"2027503\" time=\"1624025614\" user_id=\"143961:

Some minister was joking right?

A family of 4/6 eat together at same table at home all the time need to sit in 2s at the restaurant.

Like that we need to stretch our hand for 1 metre to pass the dishes.

Great for optics...

How does that reduce spread?

Isn't it wayang all along?

Eat at home lah. Don't make other people's life difficult. And you are not supposed to pass the dishes.

You want the restaurant or random strangers to check all your ICs to see if you are all from the same household just to see if the restaurant is conforming to SMM?
:roll:

[sharonkhoo]

Schootopia\" post_id=\"2027503\" time=\"1624025614\" user_id=\"143961:

Some minister was joking right?

A family of 4/6 eat together at same table at home all the time need to sit in 2s at the restaurant.

Like that we need to stretch our hand for 1 metre to pass the dishes.

Great for optics...

How does that reduce spread?

Isn't it wayang all along?

I think this is not about transmission, but about policing. It will be hard for the safe distancing ambassadors to have to check addresses for all such groups. Also, others will feel they can get away with sitting in a larger group if there is no ambassador around, or they are prepared to lie. Overall, there will likely be more sitting in larger groups even if technically not allowed.

[lee_yl]

loandbehold\" post_id=\"2027513\" time=\"1624035403\" user_id=\"193042:

FDA's staff report broke down the trial data by age, gender, race, ethnicity, and more, and its conclusions were extremely encouraging: \"[Vaccine efficacy] point estimates were uniformly high across the subgroups examined.\"

There are two small caveats. The study enrolled only limited numbers of people from certain minority groups, making it impossible to draw statistically significant conclusions. For instance, FDA found the vaccine was 74% effective among Asian study participants—which at a glance might look a lot lower than its 95% effectiveness in the broader population.

https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2020/12/11/eua-questions

74% effective for Asian? Funny thing is, in Singapore, around 91% of the SG NON-Vaccinated folks who tested positive in this wave showed no or mild symptoms.

95% efficacy means 95% of covid patients will show no or mild symptoms. Not 95% chances won’t get infected with Covid.

Which are the biggest clusters in SG?
Largest is Changi Airport.
2nd largest is Bukit Merah?
3rd was Jem/Westage or MINDSVille (91% vaccinated).

Someone mentioned that for Bukit Merah cluster, more than half has been vaccinated. Then in this case, all the mega clusters comprised a majority of vaccinated folks? Weird.

[starlight1968sg]

We may need to differentiate between those fully vaccinated and those taken the first dose only.

[lee_yl]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2027522\" time=\"1624066086\" user_id=\"14025:

We may need to differentiate between those fully vaccinated and those taken the first dose only.

For Bukit Merah cluster, most are FULLY vaccinated.

Last night ST reported a school bus uncle (fully vaccinated) went there to dabao food, was tested positive. He developed fever, flu and fatigue so he went clinic to seek treatment where he tested positive.

For who tested positive, did they really queue 30 mins to dabao? If no, that means transmission of Delta variant needs less than 30 mins for transmission? Then maybe our trace together need to be configured to less than 30 mins?

For Delta Variant, it was reported in UK studies that one needs to be fully vaccinated to be effectively protected. For those with only 1 dose, it is as good as not being vaccinated. So those who took only 1st dose and had to delay their 2nd dose, are at risk.