Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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doodbug\" post_id=\"2031167\" time=\"1626771975\" user_id=\"13281:
Vaccinate teenagers to protect the older folks? The logic is weird, why not just have the older folks vaccinated first? Subsequently, it was found out that vaccinated teens can still contract and transmit the covid virus.
Singapore is vaccinating teenagers to protect the older folks.
UK has decided they will not go down that route. They have chosen to vaccinate the old, and then let Covid run its course among the rest of the population. (Their latest version of herd immunity?) -
I mean the politicians in Singapore didn’'t outright say this, but essentially, you need a pretty high level of vaccinated people for some sort of herd immunity. You can’t touch the below 12s. And if you can’t get a high level of old pp to vaccinate, then it goes down to the teenagers lor, to get that overall vaccinated proportion.
The cost-benefit analysis for the teenager group alone - it’s not so clear cut that it is necessarily beneficial.
The cost-benefit analysis for society as a whole, if teenagers are to vaccinate, then yes, perhaps that’s why Singapore has chosen to vaccinate teenagers - the main beneficiaries are the older folks in this case. -
Not all old folks want to be vaccinated, even after this outbreak.
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Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2031172\" time=\"1626773280\" user_id=\"48901:
excluding those who cant take the jab due to medical/health matters, why the rest dont take the jab?
Not all old folks want to be vaccinated, even after this outbreak. -
The decision making process doesn’t make any sense. I can accept (grudgingly) going back to 2 people phase2 or whatever the name is now. But on the same day, LW announces that NDP will carry on.
After seeing those crowds on the rehearsal day, somehow they think this will not repeat itself on the actual day and this is somehow also safer than having >2 people visit households/ grandparents etc. -
Zappy\" post_id=\"2031174\" time=\"1626773804\" user_id=\"134817:
maybe this big event has to go on, just like the Tokyo Olympics ?
The decision making process doesn't make any sense. I can accept (grudgingly) going back to 2 people phase2 or whatever the name is now. But on the same day, LW announces that NDP will carry on.
After seeing those crowds on the rehearsal day, somehow they think this will not repeat itself on the actual day and this is somehow also safer than having >2 people visit households/ grandparents etc. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2031173\" time=\"1626773437\" user_id=\"14025:
the Dunning Kruger effect, the death of expertise, intellectual humility...?
excluding those who cant take the jab due to medical/health matters, why the rest dont take the jab?Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2031172\" time=\"1626773280\" user_id=\"48901:
Not all old folks want to be vaccinated, even after this outbreak.
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2031173\" time=\"1626773437\" user_id=\"14025:
Probably the same reason why it takes our experts 4-6 weeks to read requested data submitted by Sinovac. They think can take their own sweet time to wait and see. So it now becomes a contest of who thinks they can wait longer, our experts or our elderlies who do not trust P and M. :rant:
excluding those who cant take the jab due to medical/health matters, why the rest dont take the jab?Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2031172\" time=\"1626773280\" user_id=\"48901:
Not all old folks want to be vaccinated, even after this outbreak.
In this staring contest, our elderlies will surely win.
And it is no longer true we cannot touch the under 12s with vaccination. A few countries have already approved EUA for under 12s. Just not with our favoured P and M vaccines.
Somebody needs to work faster. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2031168\" time=\"1626772099\" user_id=\"14025:
I think there will be no money handed out once we go to the \"live with the virus\" stage. At that point, those who get it will get it, I believe there will be much less quarantine, and life will go on for everyone else. The authorities still want to limit infections now, and so they have to support some who are losing their livelihoods due to the measures.
Why whenever each lockdown is implemented, financial help has to be dished out? If we are preparing to live with the virus, is dishing out $$ the way forward? -
If only we have a 94yo Queen and her late 98yo consort to serve as good role models. The British elderly subjects were super supportive of the Queen. It also helped by holding some of their vaccination exercises in 3 historic cathedrals where church organists played hymns on the organ to calm the nerves of the seniors. What could be a better place to receive the unknown than the House of God, a sanctuary, a place that heals? :imanangel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAD9UTjuhf0
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA3rBlxnulc]
Taking a leaf from the UK, Taiwan Kaohsiung health authorities also got guitarists and violinists to play soothing ambient music in the convention centre while the >80yo elderly/frail took their jabs.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvyUdaEUR4o]
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zozilUuwGxc]
GKY just said they will take this 1 month to get more elderly to vaccinate. If the elderly don't or can't, then we'll always be stuck in this vicious cycle.
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