Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[MrsKiasu]

If we have whatever bold plan, let us all adult go chiong and fight but please let our children be safe.

[starlight1968sg]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031717\" time=\"1627173470\" user_id=\"43981:

Adults are the one have all knowledge in protecting themselves. Why they have option to wfh but children don't have?

haha, a valid qn. There are many things adults can do but children cant

[sharonkhoo]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2031720\" time=\"1627174186\" user_id=\"14025:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031717\" time=\"1627173470\" user_id=\"43981:

Adults are the one have all knowledge in protecting themselves. Why they have option to wfh but children don't have?

haha, a valid qn. There are many things adults can do but children cant

Children can't learn as well at home (children with high motivation and good support are not the majority), and it hampers social and physical development too. And few transmissions happen in school or public transport. Frankly, I feel that many workers don't work well at home either, but that's just work and doesn't affect their future lives as much. And having children at home is hard for parents who are also trying to WFH, or worse, are workers who can't WFH. In fact, I feel that schoolchildren are privileged that the authorities are prioritising keeping schools open, while keeping workplaces shut.

I am more in sympathy with the view that we need to tip the balance of measures over to letting the vaccinated have more freedom, and telling the unvaccinated to take greater precautions. The young unvaccinated don't suffer very seriously, so it's a minority who will suffer serious illness. Close contacts can be asked to self-isolate for a few days and self-test, but no need to have the 4 rings etc., or shut down schools, markets, malls and workplaces.

[zac's mum]

Prolonged HBL is not feasible. Unless all parents can teach the school syllabus while their kids stuck at home for the next 3 years? 5 years? 8 years?

[lee_yl]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031717\" time=\"1627173470\" user_id=\"43981:

Adults are the one have all knowledge in protecting themselves. Why they have option to wfh but children don't have?

HBL is very disruptive, even for my secondary school kids, not to mention for those in primary school.

If a kid has affiliation to a good secondary school then maybe won’t feel so stressed for PSLE. And children from disadvantaged families will also be badly affected. If Covid thing is to drag on another 1-2 years, 1 year few times of HBL is not the way to go.

[lee_yl]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031718\" time=\"1627173741\" user_id=\"43981:

Not all children have private vehicles go to school. I don't think toilet cubicle's usage is based on student's registered number. They are the ones having the longest life and future and we don't know how so much about the long covid as of now.

Never pull down the mask while in toilet, especially when doing big business!

The students kena Covid from their household members. So it is important to tell our kids not to share food like snacks on school bus etc.

My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,

[lee_yl]

pirate\" post_id=\"2031710\" time=\"1627149388\" user_id=\"66252:

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031692\" time=\"1627133242\" user_id=\"17023:

Regarding Jurong Fishery Port, Actually the people there were vaccinated very early on right? Can I say the 破口 is the absence of fortnightly swabbing? The JFP folks have regular contact with Indonesian/Malaysian fish boats, there should be periodic swabbing just like Changi Airport. Which Ministry is in charge of JFP?

Dunno whether got fortnightly testing. But what's the point of fortnightly swabbing when Chinese experts have already said that the incubation period for Delta is as short as 2-3 days? 14 days is enough to have 4-5 generations of transmission.

Periodic swabbing is just to detect early an infection and reduce the spread, if not, we may not know until things have sprawled out of control. It’s not unlike going for medical checkup to detect any serious illness early.

Same like the Changi Airport cluster.. Initially govt thought vast majority of the airport staff vaccinated so there wasn’t any regular swabbing and by the time the 1st case was confirmed, there was already a big cluster in the airport.

For the KTV cluster and JPF, the first patient uncovered was the Vietbu who went to see a doctor for fever and sore throat etc. She was not picked up through surveillance. By the time investigations surfaced the link to JPF, already blown into a big cluster. So it could have been brewing for sometime already if not the Vietbu who went to see doc.

Other key nodes like the Pasir Panjang wholesale centre, if it doesn’t have periodic swabbing, then shouldn’t they be swabbed too?

[phtthp]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2031723\" time=\"1627175705\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2031723 time=1627175705 user_id=53606]
Prolonged HBL is not feasible. Unless all parents can teach the school syllabus while their kids stuck at home for the next 3 years? 5 years? 8 years?[/quote]

During recess time in schools, students are released during recess at staggered hours (timing). Students have fixed, designated places to sit and eat, inside the canteen. Cannot anyhow sit, wherever they like.

Some students prefer to \"da bou\" back food packet from their school canteen, sit inside their own classroom, eat at their own desk. This is what's happening now

[zac's mum]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031718\" time=\"1627173741\" user_id=\"43981:

Not all children have private vehicles go to school. I don't think toilet cubicle's usage is based on student's registered number. They are the ones having the longest life and future and we don't know how so much about the long covid as of now.

Never pull down the mask while in toilet, especially when doing big business!

The students kena Covid from their household members. So it is important to tell our kids not to share food like snacks on school bus etc.

My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,

The kids will (presumably) wash their hands with soap after exiting the toilet cubicle. So that kills any virus they may have touched.

I think it’s more important for family members to take precautions AT HOME, to protect their unvaccinated folks. Eg simple things that they can do:
- wash hands with soap (or use hand sanitizer) immediately after walking in the door.
- do not allow unvaccinated household members, including kids, to consume food/drinks tainted with your saliva. I suspect this is the most direct transmission that has occurred. Unfortunately no studies done on this.
- refrain from kissing them directly on the mouth.
- adult wear mask at home if u can. Or at least don’t talk so loudly that saliva splatters to them.

These are the things DH does every single time until his RRT shows a negative test result. We know the risks but we can’t ask him to sequester himself in a hotel away from family indefinitely.

[sharonkhoo]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:

My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,

I think the virus isn't spread easily on food - if the food it hot, the virus will be killed. It's only if it goes into the respiratory tract that it is possible to infect a person. You are more likely to have caught it from the neighbour if she was unmasked and spoke to you while handing it over, or it was on the plate she handled, and you handled it and then touched your nose/mouth/eyes.