Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031718\" time=\"1627173741\" user_id=\"43981:
Never pull down the mask while in toilet, especially when doing big business!
Not all children have private vehicles go to school. I don't think toilet cubicle's usage is based on student's registered number. They are the ones having the longest life and future and we don't know how so much about the long covid as of now.
The students kena Covid from their household members. So it is important to tell our kids not to share food like snacks on school bus etc.
My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,
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pirate\" post_id=\"2031710\" time=\"1627149388\" user_id=\"66252:
Periodic swabbing is just to detect early an infection and reduce the spread, if not, we may not know until things have sprawled out of control. It’s not unlike going for medical checkup to detect any serious illness early.
Dunno whether got fortnightly testing. But what's the point of fortnightly swabbing when Chinese experts have already said that the incubation period for Delta is as short as 2-3 days? 14 days is enough to have 4-5 generations of transmission.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031692\" time=\"1627133242\" user_id=\"17023:
Regarding Jurong Fishery Port, Actually the people there were vaccinated very early on right? Can I say the 破口 is the absence of fortnightly swabbing? The JFP folks have regular contact with Indonesian/Malaysian fish boats, there should be periodic swabbing just like Changi Airport. Which Ministry is in charge of JFP?
Same like the Changi Airport cluster.. Initially govt thought vast majority of the airport staff vaccinated so there wasn’t any regular swabbing and by the time the 1st case was confirmed, there was already a big cluster in the airport.
For the KTV cluster and JPF, the first patient uncovered was the Vietbu who went to see a doctor for fever and sore throat etc. She was not picked up through surveillance. By the time investigations surfaced the link to JPF, already blown into a big cluster. So it could have been brewing for sometime already if not the Vietbu who went to see doc.
Other key nodes like the Pasir Panjang wholesale centre, if it doesn’t have periodic swabbing, then shouldn’t they be swabbed too? -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2031723\" time=\"1627175705\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2031723 time=1627175705 user_id=53606]
During recess time in schools, students are released during recess at staggered hours (timing). Students have fixed, designated places to sit and eat, inside the canteen. Cannot anyhow sit, wherever they like.
Prolonged HBL is not feasible. Unless all parents can teach the school syllabus while their kids stuck at home for the next 3 years? 5 years? 8 years?[/quote]
Some students prefer to \"da bou\" back food packet from their school canteen, sit inside their own classroom, eat at their own desk. This is what's happening now -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:
The kids will (presumably) wash their hands with soap after exiting the toilet cubicle. So that kills any virus they may have touched.
Never pull down the mask while in toilet, especially when doing big business!MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031718\" time=\"1627173741\" user_id=\"43981:
Not all children have private vehicles go to school. I don't think toilet cubicle's usage is based on student's registered number. They are the ones having the longest life and future and we don't know how so much about the long covid as of now.
The students kena Covid from their household members. So it is important to tell our kids not to share food like snacks on school bus etc.
My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,
I think it’s more important for family members to take precautions AT HOME, to protect their unvaccinated folks. Eg simple things that they can do:
- wash hands with soap (or use hand sanitizer) immediately after walking in the door.
- do not allow unvaccinated household members, including kids, to consume food/drinks tainted with your saliva. I suspect this is the most direct transmission that has occurred. Unfortunately no studies done on this.
- refrain from kissing them directly on the mouth.
- adult wear mask at home if u can. Or at least don’t talk so loudly that saliva splatters to them.
These are the things DH does every single time until his RRT shows a negative test result. We know the risks but we can’t ask him to sequester himself in a hotel away from family indefinitely. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:
I think the virus isn't spread easily on food - if the food it hot, the virus will be killed. It's only if it goes into the respiratory tract that it is possible to infect a person. You are more likely to have caught it from the neighbour if she was unmasked and spoke to you while handing it over, or it was on the plate she handled, and you handled it and then touched your nose/mouth/eyes.
My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah, -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2031716\" time=\"1627170116\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2031716 time=1627170116 user_id=53606]...Closing all schools will be overkill. Imagine if we closed all the workplaces of all the infected people’s family members until MOM gives go-ahead? Overkill right?...
Those who feared, could stay home and WFH.
So if you fear for your child, just excuse them from school. Dunno until when though. Homeschool?...[/quote]slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2031722\" time=\"1627175470\" user_id=\"28674:
Yes, agree with both zacs mum and slmkhoo!! Have to adapt to live with covidChildren can't learn as well at home (children with high motivation and good support are not the majority), and it hampers social and physical development too. And few transmissions happen in school or public transport. Frankly, I feel that many workers don't work well at home either, but that's just work and doesn't affect their future lives as much. And having children at home is hard for parents who are also trying to WFH, or worse, are workers who can't WFH. In fact, I feel that schoolchildren are privileged that the authorities are prioritising keeping schools open, while keeping workplaces shut.
I am more in sympathy with the view that we need to tip the balance of measures over to letting the vaccinated have more freedom, and telling the unvaccinated to take greater precautions. The young unvaccinated don't suffer very seriously, so it's a minority who will suffer serious illness. Close contacts can be asked to self-isolate for a few days and self-test, but no need to have the 4 rings etc., or shut down schools, markets, malls and workplaces. -
Was under the impression that all hawkers and market vendors have been vaccinated alongside the cabbies and educators in Mar.
But Grace Fu revealed that not all hawkers and markets have been vaccinated.
\"Ms Fu also urged all workers of the hawker centres and markets affected to go for their Covid-19 tests and get vaccinated.\"
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/sufficient-supply-of-seafood-despite-jurong-fishery-port-closure-shoppers-urged
It's her KPI to oversee the vaccination uptake for F&B sectors under her ministry's purview. She'd have to discuss with the Singapore Fish Merchants’ General Association on the RRT of fishery port workers and fishmongers. If she implements that on the fishmongers, the other butchers and veggie/fruit sellers must do likewise on a routine basis!
I notice PAP is somewhat fearful of stepping on the toes of old-time hawkers, market vendors, PG and MG. PG and MG form the bulk of PAP's share of votes in every GE, that's why they are quite soft with them.
Speaking of PG and MG, shouldn't Masagos the MSF minister overseeing the elderly population chip in? As second Minister for Health also, Masagos has been rather quiet during the pandemic. How's the vaccine uptake amongst the minorities?
https://www.msf.gov.sg/policies/Helping-the-Needy-and-Vulnerable/Supporting-Vulnerable-Elderly/Pages/Services-and-Programmes-for-Elderly.aspx
If this is an MTF, these 2 ministers should step up to help MOH improve the vaccination rate of sectors/sub-populations under their jurisdiction. -
Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.
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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2031738\" time=\"1627186815\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2031738 time=1627186815 user_id=58173]
I'm not sure I'd call it a spike when the cases are spread over several schools, and it generally doesn't spread within a school since they declare HBL for the school and quarantine for close contacts. I think it would be overkill to declare HBL for all schools when only a few schools have a few cases, and there is no evidence of wide transmission.
Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.[/quote] -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2031742\" time=\"1627187913\" user_id=\"28674:
I think it’s worrying as it’s spread over several schools. You don’t know who is sitting beside you on the bus/train, some schools are on the same transport lines. Default HBL until less than 5 cases, parents who wish to send their kids can still do so, compromise?
I'm not sure I'd call it a spike when the cases are spread over several schools, and it generally doesn't spread within a school since they declare HBL for the school and quarantine for close contacts. I think it would be overkill to declare HBL for all schools when only a few schools have a few cases, and there is no evidence of wide transmission.[/quote]Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2031738\" time=\"1627186815\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2031738 time=1627186815 user_id=58173]Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.
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