Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:
The kids will (presumably) wash their hands with soap after exiting the toilet cubicle. So that kills any virus they may have touched.
Never pull down the mask while in toilet, especially when doing big business!MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2031718\" time=\"1627173741\" user_id=\"43981:
Not all children have private vehicles go to school. I don't think toilet cubicle's usage is based on student's registered number. They are the ones having the longest life and future and we don't know how so much about the long covid as of now.
The students kena Covid from their household members. So it is important to tell our kids not to share food like snacks on school bus etc.
My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah,
I think it’s more important for family members to take precautions AT HOME, to protect their unvaccinated folks. Eg simple things that they can do:
- wash hands with soap (or use hand sanitizer) immediately after walking in the door.
- do not allow unvaccinated household members, including kids, to consume food/drinks tainted with your saliva. I suspect this is the most direct transmission that has occurred. Unfortunately no studies done on this.
- refrain from kissing them directly on the mouth.
- adult wear mask at home if u can. Or at least don’t talk so loudly that saliva splatters to them.
These are the things DH does every single time until his RRT shows a negative test result. We know the risks but we can’t ask him to sequester himself in a hotel away from family indefinitely. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2031728\" time=\"1627178157\" user_id=\"17023:
I think the virus isn't spread easily on food - if the food it hot, the virus will be killed. It's only if it goes into the respiratory tract that it is possible to infect a person. You are more likely to have caught it from the neighbour if she was unmasked and spoke to you while handing it over, or it was on the plate she handled, and you handled it and then touched your nose/mouth/eyes.
My neighbor recently fried mee goreng for my family. I thanked her but I stared at the plate of mee goreng asking what if they had Covid? Not wise to share food right? In the end, we just ate it lah, -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2031716\" time=\"1627170116\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2031716 time=1627170116 user_id=53606]...Closing all schools will be overkill. Imagine if we closed all the workplaces of all the infected people’s family members until MOM gives go-ahead? Overkill right?...
Those who feared, could stay home and WFH.
So if you fear for your child, just excuse them from school. Dunno until when though. Homeschool?...[/quote]slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2031722\" time=\"1627175470\" user_id=\"28674:
Yes, agree with both zacs mum and slmkhoo!! Have to adapt to live with covidChildren can't learn as well at home (children with high motivation and good support are not the majority), and it hampers social and physical development too. And few transmissions happen in school or public transport. Frankly, I feel that many workers don't work well at home either, but that's just work and doesn't affect their future lives as much. And having children at home is hard for parents who are also trying to WFH, or worse, are workers who can't WFH. In fact, I feel that schoolchildren are privileged that the authorities are prioritising keeping schools open, while keeping workplaces shut.
I am more in sympathy with the view that we need to tip the balance of measures over to letting the vaccinated have more freedom, and telling the unvaccinated to take greater precautions. The young unvaccinated don't suffer very seriously, so it's a minority who will suffer serious illness. Close contacts can be asked to self-isolate for a few days and self-test, but no need to have the 4 rings etc., or shut down schools, markets, malls and workplaces. -
Was under the impression that all hawkers and market vendors have been vaccinated alongside the cabbies and educators in Mar.
But Grace Fu revealed that not all hawkers and markets have been vaccinated.
\"Ms Fu also urged all workers of the hawker centres and markets affected to go for their Covid-19 tests and get vaccinated.\"
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/sufficient-supply-of-seafood-despite-jurong-fishery-port-closure-shoppers-urged
It's her KPI to oversee the vaccination uptake for F&B sectors under her ministry's purview. She'd have to discuss with the Singapore Fish Merchants’ General Association on the RRT of fishery port workers and fishmongers. If she implements that on the fishmongers, the other butchers and veggie/fruit sellers must do likewise on a routine basis!
I notice PAP is somewhat fearful of stepping on the toes of old-time hawkers, market vendors, PG and MG. PG and MG form the bulk of PAP's share of votes in every GE, that's why they are quite soft with them.
Speaking of PG and MG, shouldn't Masagos the MSF minister overseeing the elderly population chip in? As second Minister for Health also, Masagos has been rather quiet during the pandemic. How's the vaccine uptake amongst the minorities?
https://www.msf.gov.sg/policies/Helping-the-Needy-and-Vulnerable/Supporting-Vulnerable-Elderly/Pages/Services-and-Programmes-for-Elderly.aspx
If this is an MTF, these 2 ministers should step up to help MOH improve the vaccination rate of sectors/sub-populations under their jurisdiction. -
Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.
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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2031738\" time=\"1627186815\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2031738 time=1627186815 user_id=58173]
I'm not sure I'd call it a spike when the cases are spread over several schools, and it generally doesn't spread within a school since they declare HBL for the school and quarantine for close contacts. I think it would be overkill to declare HBL for all schools when only a few schools have a few cases, and there is no evidence of wide transmission.
Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.[/quote] -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2031742\" time=\"1627187913\" user_id=\"28674:
I think it’s worrying as it’s spread over several schools. You don’t know who is sitting beside you on the bus/train, some schools are on the same transport lines. Default HBL until less than 5 cases, parents who wish to send their kids can still do so, compromise?
I'm not sure I'd call it a spike when the cases are spread over several schools, and it generally doesn't spread within a school since they declare HBL for the school and quarantine for close contacts. I think it would be overkill to declare HBL for all schools when only a few schools have a few cases, and there is no evidence of wide transmission.[/quote]Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2031738\" time=\"1627186815\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2031738 time=1627186815 user_id=58173]Seeing the pike in school cases, I would prefer HBL for the next 2 weeks so the cases in schools can slow down. It’s almost impossible to have social distancing on public transport, esp kids will not know how to navigate to be safely distanced. Just my opinion.
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Impossible, not practical to have less than 5 cases, out of more than 100+ primary schools & Secondary schools, in Sg.
Impossible to have HBL whole year round via (open close / open close) syndrome.
Those crucial graduation batches of students from (Psle / O-level / A-level / Upper Primary 5 / Upper Sec 3 / JC 1) definitely will protest over the disruptive, in-effective "half-past six" HBL lessons, taught neither here nor there. Unlike F2F, HBL lessons lack depth in subject matter content, in those core subjects (Maths / Science / English) -
Less than 5 cases maybe an uphill task I guess. Tell kid to wear mask properly…always check if the mask is ‘waterproof’ after changing new brand/box of mask etc. Look around if see ppl sneeze etc quickly move away when at public places.
Lesser talking when in class. Told my gal to try avoid assisting fellow classmate for too long a duration after she told me cher complimented her, coz need to be close to each other and keep talking. Sometimes students do some stuff together, and once gal told me to discard the product she brought home coz the other gal was feeling unwell after that. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2031745\" time=\"1627190467\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2031745 time=1627190467 user_id=58173]
I know you are concerned for your children, but I think this is the way it's going to be going forward. We will have to get used to the fact that the person sitting beside us on the train or in the office, or sitting next to our kid in school, is possibly infected. And that we cannot prevent all transmission. The only thing that we can be certain of is that when infected, children and vaccinated adults are unlikely to get seriously ill. The hope of keeping infections at an extremely low no. is being abandoned; the aim is to keep the no. of seriously ill at a low no. so as not to overwhelm hospitals.
I think it’s worrying as it’s spread over several schools. You don’t know who is sitting beside you on the bus/train, some schools are on the same transport lines. Default HBL until less than 5 cases, parents who wish to send their kids can still do so, compromise?[/quote]
Australia and NZ have succeeded longer than most to keep cases very low, and only by draconian closure of borders and repeated lockdowns, so much so that even citizens overseas (at least for Aus, not sure about NZ) are not being allowed home. Even if Singapore could survive with such tightly closed borders, the example of these 2 countries shows that it is not workable in the long term. And even these 2 countries only said that they were doing it until vaccination rates are higher, not as a long-term solution.
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